Enthusia Pro Racer ? GT4 clone?

[LFRANCOF483]

look what i found.......if i am correct and this picture says that Enthusia will have mountain courses like in initial D i will not think twice about getting this game along side GT4 and the japanese version of GT4 (yes, i ordered it, mine is coming probably jan 3)

graphics leaves alot to be desired though

 

[Gek54]

graphics leaves alot to be desired though

What more do you desire out of a PS2???

 

[kx125z]

That comparison video with the miata is impressive.

 

[maxter]

Until the platforms can reproduce realism factors such as those found in Simbin's GTR for the PC (Tyre temps, engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and balance etc.) these titles (Forza, GT4 and Enthuisa) will be largely viewed by hard core sim racers as merely games, albeit good/excellent games, but still games and not true simulations. Real time weather and varying track conditions are other possibilities that are much in demand.

The XBox2 and PS3 hopefully will have the additional horsepower to compute the additional variables however while graphical eye candy remains the focus of many a fanboy I fear that this will shift focus from developing as realistic a physics/dynamics/mechanical model as possible. The quest for reversing lights, blue NOS flashes and underbody neons are a classic case in point...

 

[rollazn]

When is Enthusia coming out? Whenever it is, I am going to get it along with Gran Turismo 4. You guys can have a disagreement about which one is better or what not but I will just buy both of the games and try to enjoy both. Ha-ha.

Enthusia do look good. Any release date? Who wants to bet that we will see Enthusia before Gran Turismo 4 in the United States? Ha-ha.

 

[Gek54]

Until the platforms can reproduce realism factors such as those found in Simbin's GTR for the PC (Tyre temps, engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and balance etc.) these titles (Forza, GT4 and Enthuisa) will be largely viewed by hard core sim racers as merely games, albeit good/excellent games, but still games and not true simulations. Real time weather and varying track conditions are other possibilities that are much in demand.

The XBox2 and PS3 hopefully will have the additional horsepower to compute the additional variables however while graphical eye candy remains the focus of many a fanboy I fear that this will shift focus from developing as realistic a physics/dynamics/mechanical model as possible. The quest for reversing lights, blue NOS flashes and underbody neons are a classic case in point...

I think you mean consoles and not "platforms". GT3 does engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and ballance and I think RBR on PS2 and xbox factors tire temperature, Forza will do this too iirc. Real time weather is found in many console racing games. Take your PC elitist BS elsewhere.

 

[mrchicken&fries]

Until the platforms can reproduce realism factors such as those found in Simbin's GTR for the PC (Tyre temps, engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and balance etc.) these titles (Forza, GT4 and Enthuisa) will be largely viewed by hard core sim racers as merely games, albeit good/excellent games, but still games and not true simulations. Real time weather and varying track conditions are other possibilities that are much in demand.

The XBox2 and PS3 hopefully will have the additional horsepower to compute the additional variables however while graphical eye candy remains the focus of many a fanboy I fear that this will shift focus from developing as realistic a physics/dynamics/mechanical model as possible. The quest for reversing lights, blue NOS flashes and underbody neons are a classic case in point...

Well how many physics calculations is GTr physics engine pushing with how manty parameters. Lets see GT4 200 physics calculations for 6 cars VS 200 physics calculations for 24 cars. Does that sound right.

 

[Jedi2016]

I imagine we'll see a HUGE improvement from GT4 to GT5. The PS3 is just so much more powerful, and it's Cell architecture could be ideally adapted to the game, with different Cells performing different functions in-game.

Bear in mind I'm not "hating" on Enthusia. If the game is good, and it's getting good reviews, then I'll probably pick it up. But I'm not going to make that decision yet.

 

[AdrenalineSRX]

From what I have heard you use R2 for gas and L2 for brakes. You can bust a combination of both to give you different kinds of turns, grips, and slides. That's in Enthusia.

I wouldn't spend $50 on this, I'll just rent it and burn it since, it's not online anyways. At $3 for a burnt copy, it's probably a steal, unless it totally sucks.

Like Jedi2016 said, I believe that a game should be very different and unique, not walking in the footsteps of a well developed franchise. Be creative, be unique!

And another thing is, like some other people said, if they take the realism factor a little too far, yes, it may feel not like a game at all which would be well 👎

I don't ever think that the GT franchise will ever feel that way, because Kazunori Yamauchi is DA MAN

 

[Ubiquitous]

You're right, Gek54, Forza's physics are much more realistic than GT4 and a lot less forgiving. Locking up brakes, losing control when hitting an opponent and almost losing control when flooring a 600 bhp LMP are all things you don't see in GT4. And to those smart asses out there who will say "you never played Forza nor GT4, I'll answer this: I played the Forza demo and 1twojay, that guy that has the game, says he used the good 'ole car ramming trick in GT4, something that would be impossible in Forza.

See ya

Yeah I can just see people driving cars using Xbox controllers... it's such a common occurence.

You can enjoy your Forza rubbish via a lame control pad for as long as you want, we shall all be enjoying sublime GT4 finesse with our wonderful DFP's

Forza has so far not even managed to achieve one of the simplest things that boost realism in a game, a decent gaming wheel.

 

[Dave A]

A very small number of GT4 players will be using dfp's so for the vast majority using a PS2 pad or an X-box pad makes little difference.

 

[DJM PRODUCTIONS]

I think you mean consoles and not "platforms". GT3 does engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and ballance and I think RBR on PS2 and xbox factors tire temperature, Forza will do this too iirc. Real time weather is found in many console racing games. Take your PC elitist BS elsewhere.

No need to be so harsh. He's right. Have you ever tried GTR? I cant say anything about GT4 or Forza but GTR is an amazing game. The graphics are pretty amazing on a decent system, the physics are incredible, and it doesnt lack much. (except for some more cars)

 

[newbielives]

Enthusia is initial D with real physics. (my dream come true)


I will be bying that and GT4 for sure even they cost 200$ each.

 

[Gek54]

I wouldn't spend $50 on this, I'll just rent it and burn it since, it's not online anyways. At $3 for a burnt copy, it's probably a steal, unless it totally sucks.

You sir make me

F'n Pirate.

 

[McLaren]

I know.

Adrenaline, you might as well not buy GT4 or any other game then.

 

[Leo_Straight6]

The game seems promising.

It dosn't LOOK it though, if you catch my drift.

Not litterally..... but yeah....you know

If the graphics were better I'd be more impressed, the background images and the speedo / tacho, number displays and all look like they're off PSX

The cars themselves dont look as good as GT4 either...

 

[Gek54]

I really dont understand where people get off saying enthusia doesnt look good. Looks bloody fantastic to me.

 

[MasterGT]

At least in Enthusia we can actually drive at night and have effective headlights.

I will certainly not write this game off my list of games to get, since the physics look great!

Happy New Year!

MasterGT

 

[BigTimo]

Enthusia Pro Racer comes out in Europe September 2005

I think Europe and US will have the same release date because it is a Japanese game.

Still far away, so it seems that we will play GT4 first

 

[Soman]

The game will come in Japan in Spring, March? So 2 games to import . GT4, and Enthusia to be imported then

 

[Lambo88]

Yeah I can just see people driving cars using Xbox controllers... it's such a common occurence.

You can enjoy your Forza rubbish via a lame control pad for as long as you want, we shall all be enjoying sublime GT4 finesse with our wonderful DFP's

Forza has so far not even managed to achieve one of the simplest things that boost realism in a game, a decent gaming wheel.

I don't have the Benjamin$ to get a DFP, so I am stuck with a controller anyway, an I liked the way the throttle and the brake are controlled with the triggers in Forza. It is more challanging than the X an Square button in GT.

You have to think 90 % of GT players don't have a DFP.

See ya

 

[tmonsen5]

Im really not impressed with Enthusias graphics. To me the tracks look only a tiny bit better than something off of playstation 1. The cars are decent resolution, but the tracks are nasty.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/enthusiaproracing/screens.html?page=126
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/enthusiaproracing/screens.html?page=130

 

[newbielives]

I'm buying this game because it has the TRACKS/mountain courses like Initial D so I dont have to play deep forest over and over.

 

[bigscore]

BMW 3.0 CSL !.....I'll give it a try

 

[cudadude2]

well, one place that PD left the door open for compatition from Enthusia is in the car list. If a new high quality sim comes to market and caters to the EU and US market, it could cause Sony to look closly at their car list choises.

b

 

[Jedi2016]

The problem with that argument is that most, if not all, of the cars announced so far already appear in GT4.

 

[normteke]

Enthusia does not feature the ability to tune the cars; you just race them as is. At least I think that is what I have read on IGN or some such site.

 

[maxter]

I think you mean consoles and not "platforms". GT3 does engine wear, fuel utilisation, weight and ballance and I think RBR on PS2 and xbox factors tire temperature, Forza will do this too iirc. Real time weather is found in many console racing games. Take your PC elitist BS elsewhere.

Yes I mean consoles, but a couple of points here... I think that you have inadvertantly proved my point. None of the above examples have them all together.

I don't own GTR, but have driven the demo which is an excellent pointer as to where the Consoles should be in their next iteration. The integration with the MoTeC data analysis tool is another example of where I would like to see the GT franchise take racing realism to.

I have owned every GT version since 1 (as well as many PS wheel and pedal combos) and will continue to do so in the future. Unlike you I like to keep an open mind as to the possibilities of each platform without straying into PC vs Console tribalism that you so obviously relish. It is true that the Internet at times brings out the worst in some people/children...

 

[cudadude2]

The problem with that argument is that most, if not all, of the cars announced so far already appear in GT4.

i wasnt speaking specificaly about any one game, just that PD has a very strong Asian car influence. I think if another company came to market with equal gameplay and more western cars it would be a good thing.

b

 

[Cobra_UK]

ENTHUSIA!

http://www.warlockteam.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=9&pos=13

Oh, I got a little to excited when I seen this. I got a car nearly identical to that, even down to the colour. Since I race the beast on the track myself I cant's wait to use it in the game. Anywise the tracks and the cars in this game look better than GT4 and more realistic than any game I've seen yet. Like the fact they got no spectators at all and instead they got dynamic weather and lighting. I don't know how many cars this game will have in it but the tracks are so realistic it's mind-blowing. Nurburgring is in it too. As long as this game has 2 player/LAN mode with garage cars and saveable full screen replays I’m so buying it.

OMG, OMG, OMG

(ok, I need to go change my shorts now )