Europe - The Official Thread

Dotini
It used to be Europe eagerly took in immigrants and refugees. Why the hesitancy now with these new immigrants?
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Could say the exact same about the USA.

There has always been resistance to immigration, sometimes it's been vocal and sometimes it hasn't been vocal. Europe isn't unique in being an idyllic welcome. (And you could also say this exact same thing about the USA as well).

Plus, there's clearly a difference between a country accepting immigrants on its own government's instructions and a second country accpeting immigrants and pushing them into your territory.

Belarus is quite literally using human beings as political chess pieces. It's disgusting and wrong whether you sympathise with the poor folks or not, whether you like immigration or not. And when Belarus is involved, Russia is absolutely there in the shadows.
 
Dotini
It used to be Europe eagerly took in immigrants and refugees. Why the hesitancy now with these new immigrants?
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I'm sure you are joking. Some politicians in some countries supported by some people wanted to take in migrants, not whole Europe or the EU.

Liquid
Plus, there's clearly a difference between a country accepting immigrants on its own government's instructions and a second country accpeting immigrants and pushing them into your territory.
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EU's mandatory solidarity and migrant quotas says hello.
 
Liquid
Belarus is quite literally using human beings as political chess pieces. It's disgusting and wrong whether you sympathize with the poor folks or not, whether you like immigration or not.
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And yet it somehow seems par for the course, such exploitation.
 
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Russian gas supplies the Netherlands is said to be closed by June 1.

Russia's Gazprom Cutting Dutch Gas Supplies

Russia's Gazprom will halt gas supplies to the Netherlands' partly state-owned energy firm GasTerra on Tuesday after it refused to pay in rubles following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Dutch company said.
www.barrons.com www.barrons.com
 
If the EU lives up to their non-binding pledges, Europe will lose 90% of its Russia-supplied oil by year's end, both by tanker and pipeline. Slovakia, Hungary and Czechoslovakia have durable exemptions and will continue to receive the Russian crude oil by pipeline - unless Ukraine decides otherwise on the battlefield.

www.euronews.com

Why the Druzhba pipeline was spared from the EU ban on Russian oil

Hungary's PM Viktor Orbán scored a big win by forcing an exemption into the original proposal. #EuropeDecoded
www.euronews.com www.euronews.com

Meanwhile, Russia cut off gas supplies to more European buyers, stepping up its use of energy as a weapon and sowing further division in the continent. Both industry and the citizenry eventually may be seriously affected come next winter. Poland has mitigated its situation by raising imports of LNG.
 
Europe is said to be in the midst of a heatwave, drought and water rationing, the worst in 70+ years and a product of global warming.
Shortages of food and energy are said to result from these conditions. Combined with unrelated and artificially imposed reductions in food and energy from political sanctions, expectations for near term relief for food and energy shortages cannot be terribly great.

 
I just read about this and it's reminiscent of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando. While two people have died so far with 21 injured, it wouldn't surprise me to see the death toll rise. Reportedly 10 of the victims are severely injured. Oslo police aren't sure if the bar was specifically targeted because it was a gay bar or not, but I would wager that was the case.

www.reuters.com

Horror on Oslo Pride day as gunman goes on deadly rampage at gay bar

Terrified revellers at a gay bar in Oslo hid in a basement and desperately called loved ones as a gunman went on the rampage, killing two people and injuring 21 on the day the city was due to celebrate its annual Pride parade.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Unfortunately, like many mass shootings, this one has some of the same characteristics that seem to creep up frequently. The suspect has a radical ideology, a history of mental health issues, and was known to law enforcement.
 
Horrific. Thank goodness the police were able to stop him minutes into his spree, before he was able to kill more people.
 
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Translation: Yesterday at dinner at the Royal Palace they put the husband of the Prime Minister of Luxembourg next to Viktor Orban, the biggest homophobe in the EU.
 
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Farmers protest in the Netherlands. Why?



Surviving the coming crisis may be impossible for some.

 
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Is the UK still part of Europe? When fog fills the channel, is it still Europe that becomes isolated? Anyway, for what it's worth, Europe is facing "biiblical" drought and wildfire conditions possibly not seen for centuries. Shipping has almost entirely ceased on the dried up rivers. The situation appears grim. Maybe it's a wake-up call that climate change is already here. Or maybe it's a transient anomaly that will disappear and go back to normal in a matter of days or weeks.

 
Silvio, the legalest of gangsters has died, 86 years young.

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Time for bunga bunga parties with his shepherd.
 
He has been a bit more moderate lately, so much so that other parties now see at least possibilities to talk instead of saying no even before the elections. Apart from the obvious left parties that is, 2 of which have joined together to get some of the voters back.

He now looks at 37 seats out of 150, two new parties also gained quite a bit. He can't be ignored this time but I have my doubts that it actually leads to a functional government.
 
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Dennisch
He has been a bit more moderate lately, so much so that other parties now see at least possibilities to talk instead of saying no even before the elections. Apart from the obvious left parties that is, 2 of which have joined together to get some of the voters back.

He now looks at 37 seats out of 150, two new parties also gained quite a bit. He can't be ignored this time but I have my doubts that it actually leads to a functional government.
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Or he presented himself a bit more moderate?
I don't really follow Dutch politics, but he's pretty right wing, so i fear it's just an election stunt.
 
If that's what he's doing, it seems ironic for someone who hates Muslims so much to repeat the same tactic of feigning moderateness which swept Hamas into power.
 
p78
Or he presented himself a bit more moderate?
I don't really follow Dutch politics, but he's pretty right wing, so i fear it's just an election stunt.
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Actually, if it wasn't for his anti Islam and immigration policies, he's about as left wing as they come.

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To add, if he wants any of the other parties to join his government he needs to be more moderate, so he can't keep up his normal rhetoric.
 
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The UK's decision to leave the EU was partly driven in a large part by our desire to stop immigration.

As net immigration hits a record 740,000+ in the UK... which left the EU... you have to wonder why the Dutch want to follow in our footsteps.
 
www.theguardian.com

European far-right leaders celebrate Geert Wilders’ party leading Dutch election exit polls

‘Parties like ours are coming all over Europe!’ says Belgian far-right leader, as PVV predicted to win 35 seats
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
If Wilders is such a left winger apart from the whole banning mosques and the Qu'ran thing, maybe someone ought to tell his fan club of foreign party leaders celebrating his win, otherwise he might end up being the Tim Pool at their next get together...
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p78
Or he presented himself a bit more moderate?
I don't really follow Dutch politics, but he's pretty right wing, so i fear it's just an election stunt.
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Not even. He said in a interview he doesnt view himself as more moderate and doesn't present himself as more moderate, stating it's just the media calling him that lol.

He wants all islam banned, Nexit, no immigrants. That's not moderate, its just racist. Another country seems to fall to the extreme right, such a shame.
 
Balance in EU moved to much to the left. Little bit of right centrism is ok. Every politician is more radical before elections, after it moving to centre.
 

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