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[Fizio]

Easy for you perhaps - that 111813 in your sig tells me that your skills are far greater than mine.

C'mon Moloch, you're just few points behind... 👍
About Le Sarthe, I also had trouble with it trying to complete it with different cars and different lineups until SuperCobraJet pointed out to that Nissan. I tried it and made it on first attempt and it was considerably easier than with any other car I tried before... Trust me and go for the Nissan on Le Sarthe against first lineup 👍 Don't forget to go to pit on lap 21...

Do you remember the AI cars involved in both races, are they the same as mine for Azur of different?
All I see mentioned in you post are an Alfa (GTA ??) and the marcos.

Don't recall all lineup field but I know it was against first lineup...👍 which is relief in this series...

Piece of advice... Do not go for 180 pts or so as you stated few post earlier, go straight for 200. If you can handle 180, you can do 200 too...👍
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For Nurb if you haven't done it yet, I've done it in Honda S600 and it was hard as hell... From my experience in this series I think Nissan is the best choice for the green hell...

 

[AMG.]

Piece of advice... Do not go for 180 pts or so as you stated few post earlier, go straight for 200. If you can handle 180, you can do 200 too...👍

I tried for 200, lost horribly, went for 180 and found after 30 laps or so that it was going to be an 'easy' win. Now that I know how to do it 200 shouldnt be too much trouble.

C'mon Moloch, you're just few points behind...

So are most of us but you know how hard it can be to get to max, anything beyond approx 106K becomes increasingly difficult.
There was a time I was really happy with 100k, then i had a spate of luck getting to 107K. Since then it has become a real struggle (other than the 24h races) to get to 108K.
Ive got 2039 points to win in FGT, Now if only I could control those blasted FGT cars for 161 pts. Some I have won for 200 but those were the 'easier' tracks. Need a ****load more practice on the others.... and then perhaps I might even make 200 on those races too.


AMG.

 

[AMG.]

Euro Classics Nurb 200 points.

Finally 200 points. I was stuck on 145 points since Aug 2006. I have attempted to better this but so far failed miserably.
However today I must have had some luck.
I pulled the Beetle out of the garage and qualified a couple of times but no deal. Finally I thought I'd try without qualifying and try my luck.
So PAL lineup 6. GSS, Elan, GTA, Ginetta & Duetto.

Started off with 69hp, N3 100NOS and all the usual nonpower upgrades.
Tweaked the tranny
1-Moved final to 5
2-Set auto to 8
3-tweaked 5th gear to 0.533 (higher top speed)

Suspension 3.6 3.8/151 151/5 5/8 8/2 1/0 0/4 4
BrakeCtrl 3 3

On N3s 69hp I made 150 points.
On N3 and dropping to 63 hp I made 167 points.
On N2/N3 63hp made 184 pts (5.7s mov)
N2/N3 +48 weight made 192 pts (5.5s)
N2/N3 + 96 weight failed 1st time, retried and made 200 pts 3.4s Mov.

This series is now complete for a 1000 points. What a relief
Cut 1 corner just before T3 (the big grassy area on the right)

AMG.

 

[Vash666]

Took me a weekend but I finally got through the 1000 miles series and got rewarded with 800 shiny a-spec points
I tried many different cars and setups here but I found the ´62 Skyline to be the best for the job. The car has fantastic handling even on N1 tyres.

Here is my info:

I went against the first lineup:
Karmann Khia
Fiat 500
Honda S800
Alfa GTA 1600
Mini Marcos
Nissan Skyline (BLRA-3)

Setup:
100hp (no oil change, semi exhaust, race chip, dt/susp upgrades)
200ballast
N1/N2

Nurb was quite difficult but I found le sarthe to be the hardest one because I never managed to pull away from the cursed alfa, he always catched me on the long straights. Mov was only 3 secs

I must say that these endurance races are not my thing, I almost fell asleep when I drove through the mulsanne straight for the 35th time
Im not looking forward to the three 24h races...

 

[AMG.]

Here is my info: I went against the first lineup: Karmann Khia Fiat 500 Honda S800 Alfa GTA 1600 Mini Marcos
Nissan Skyline (BLRA-3) Setup: 100hp (no oil change, semi exhaust, race chip, dt/susp upgrades) 200ballast N1/N2
Nurb was quite difficult but I found le sarthe to be the hardest one because I never managed to pull away from the cursed alfa, he always catched me on the long straights. Mov was only 3 secs I must say that these endurance races are not my thing, I almost fell asleep when I drove through the mulsanne straight for the 35th time Im not looking forward to the three 24h races...

That's quite an achievement Vash.

Did you do anything specific to the suspension / transmission?
Did the Alpha actually overtake you on sarthe or did you manage to block him successfully for all 35 laps? The top speed of this boat is quite slow compared to the AR. So kudos to you!

The BLRA is a fantastic tool for pre 70 races.

AMG.

 

[Vash666]

I'm not much of a tuner but this setup worked quite well for these races:

springs: 8.0/10.0
ride height:115/115
dampers: 4/4 4/4
camber: 2.0/1.0
toe: 0/0
stabilisers: 3/3

gears: tranny trick + I moved the final to give maximum speed for the longest straight on each track

Yeah, the Alfa got past me sometimes but I just used some nos to get back ahead. I used the s/f line grass cut every lap and that gave me some breathing time before Alfa catched up again. After the pitstop (lap 21 I think) the race becomes slightly easier because then you can switch to N2 tyres.

 

[Metar]

I think, if you raise the front rideheight wisely, you can get a couple of extra MPHs of topspeed... Consider it next time 👍

 

[nige]

1000 miles! at Opera Paris for 200 points

I know this has been done before but as it's my first 200 in the 1000 miles! I'll post it anyway.

Car : Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 versus :
( Start position / Finish position )

1 VW Karmann Ghia 3
2 Fiat 500F '65 6
3 Honda S800 4
4 Alfa Guilia Sprint GTA 1600'65 2
5 Mini Marcos 5
6 Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 ( me ) 1

Car Stats : All non power upgrades, NOS, tranny set to 4, Ballast @50. N1/N3 tyres changing to N2/N3 at first pit stop.

Pit Stops : 42, 68

MOV : 1 lap and a bit

This race turned out to be really quite easy. For the first few laps it's a case of not letting the GTA past then after the pit stop on lap 42 it's plain sailing. The GTA quite often gets stuck behind much slower cars and that helps alot. Quite a relief after a couple of frustating days at the Nurburgring!

Edit :

1000 miles! at Cote d'Azur for 200 points


Car : Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 versus :
( Start position / Finish position )

1 VW Karmann Ghia 3
2 Fiat 500F '65 6
3 Honda S800 5
4 Alfa Guilia Sprint GTA 1600'65 2
5 Mini Marcos 3
6 Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 ( me ) 1

Car Stats : All non power upgrades, NOS, tranny set to 4, Ballast @50. N1/N3 tyres changing to N2/N3 at first pit stop.

Pit Stops : 34, 62, 81

MOV : 1 minute and 10 seconds

nige

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

1000 miles! at Cote d'Azur for 200 points


Car : Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 versus :
( Start position / Finish position )

1 VW Karmann Ghia 3
2 Fiat 500F '65 6
3 Honda S800 5
4 Alfa Guilia Sprint GTA 1600'65 2
5 Mini Marcos 3
6 Nissan BLRA Sports Coupe '62 ( me ) 1

Car Stats : All non power upgrades, NOS, tranny set to 4, Ballast @50. N1/N3 tyres changing to N2/N3 at first pit stop.

Pit Stops : 34, 62, 81

MOV : 1 minute and 10 seconds

nige

Thanks for that info, that was really helpful (4 days ago...) when I was able to finely finish this race (4 tries and the 3 first tries always lost at about lap 60...)

But still need to win Nur and Sarthe (that are both still at some impressive 0pts....)

 

[nige]

1000 miles! at Sarthe for 200 points

I have tried many line ups but this one is for me by far the easiest.

Car : Nissan Sport Coupe '62 ( BLRA -3 ) '62 versus

Honda S800 - finishes 4th
Ginetta G4 - finishes 3rd
Nissan Skyline 2000 GT -S '67 - finishes 2nd
Toyota Sports 800 - finishes 5th
Fiat 500F - finishes 6th

The main contenders at the beginning of the race are the Ginetta and the other Nissan. The Ginetta falls away eventually due to many excursions into the sand! That leaves the other Nissan who is quite quick and will make up time on the long straights. He is quite easy to block and you will need to do so. Remember to take the shortcut at the chicanes at the start.
I used N1/N2 tyres and pitted on lap 17.
The Nissan pits lap16 and 31.

Overall margin was 42 seconds.

Happy racing,

nige

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

I was to post thins before, but I think I will post this now.

Well I have a alternative way (and a lot easier too), to do the Deutsche Touring Car Meisterschaft

So here you have it:

Stock 190 E Touring Car
Downforce: 34/49
200 Ballast (at the middle)
R3 tires
No oil Change
No Aids

Against lineup number 3 (Pal)
CLK
Astra
A4
TT
155

I did this long ago and in that time I needed Nitrous to keep up with then, but now when I redid the setup and tested it I didn't needed it (but I only tested it in Nurb and in Opera, and was only able to win in Nurb, got 2nd in Opera).

So I think my Nurb win can also be considered Stock, right?

But this way with some Nitrous or with Qualifying 1 or near that it's easy to win this (or if you get a lineup with those 5 cars, but with the 155 in 1st)

And also a optional way for Opera 1000 miles!, or better a optional line up.

Car: Nissan Sport Coupe '62 ( BLRA -3 ) '62

Against:

Nissan Sport Coupe '62 ( BLRA -3 ) '62 versus
Corvette C2
Karmann Ghia
Alfa Spider Duetto
Fairlady 2000

Car setup:
N3/N3
Nitrous [100]
Aids 0/0/0
182 Ballast (50 Back)
Auto Setup 1
it was with 94hp

I don't have more info of this, since was from long ago, but I remember that I pitted always at the same time has the Corvette (15 laps I think), and was able to win by about 15 seconds, since the Corvette pitted near the end of the race and I was with the tires at green/Yellow (like I always was when I pitted), so I didn't pit that time.

This don't requires has much block has it may seam, since the Corvette would only get near me in the long straight...and I remember that I found this race really fun to do...

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Well ok, here the surprise....

Nurb 1000 Miles for 200pts

This time (has almost always) the winner was the '62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3)

And this time it was a special win (I already had took down a Corvette C2 and a Fairlady 2000 in Opera in this event with the same car, with about 100hp), so that makes this a little less special, but Nurb and Opera are completely different places, so I needed to make some changes...

The Opponents this time where not only the Corvette C2 and Fairlady 2000, but also a Elan S1 and a 300SL (the 5th car was a Karmann Ghia, so it doesn't matter for anything except to brig the points down...).

So you see why I said a little surprise...

And now the setups, since I already said the line up (that was somewhere between 10-20 lineups after reset).

The Car was with 395Km (since I used it to race Côte D'Azur in this event earlier)
Nitrous [100]
Tires N1/N3 at start, then changed to N3/N3
All non-power, non-weight mods
NA Tune Stage 2
Racing Chip
Total power was 138hp (in the change part menu)
168 Ballast (50 in the back)
No Aids
Auto setup-4 (big mistake here)

Final stands:
'62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3) - 3:52:34.799
Corvette C2 - +0:05.325
300SL - + over 3 minutes
Fairlady 2000 - + over 4 minutes
Elan S1 - + over some more (maybe it was 5-6 minutes behind)
Karmann Ghia - + 2 Laps

I pitted in laps: 6, 10, 15, 20
Corvette C2: 5, 10, 15, 20
300SL: 5, 11, 17, 23
Fairlady 2000: 6 (don't know the others but where probably 12, 18, 24).

My big mistake with the gear box was that the car was limited to 190Km/h and every time it hit that mark it would came back to 175Km/h or so (the car should be allowed to hit the 200 normally, but if you try to do it only change 5th and 6th gear or you may lower to much acceleration).

Now the race.

Well I started in last, and in the 3 first sections got to first (used about half the nitrous).

Then I just had to block the Corvette C2 (and know him of the track some times), later (because of the time I put him out of track), the 300SL catch up and got to us, so I had to block both (this was always like this until lap 5 where they pitted and didn't noticed, since I was expecting then to pit in lap 7), but at that time the Fairlady 2000 was near me too (about 8 seconds in the start of lap 6), but I was able to keep up and at the end of the lap I had a 25 seconds lead over him, so I pitted (but the Corvette was already near him too), so after the pit (and change tires to all N3) I returned to the race right behind the Corvette (that I overtook in the first section).

After this I noticed that the 300SL was starting to stay behind and that I was almost has fast has the corvette, so I changed my pit strategy for the same time has the Corvette (but oddly I was barely able to get 5 laps from my tires, I normally was only able to get 3-4 laps of it and race the lats lap in
red or almost red tires (but since the Corvette was already badly I was able to still make some time in the turns over him).

So the Race was basically that and I ended the race with 3/5 of the last half of the nitrous.

Also some notes:
-I cut the turns at the first section right after the first right turn (it's not faster, but it will allow you to make the next left turn faster, that could give you about 2 seconds with this car setup)
-The turns at the end of sector 3 (well this is normally done by a lot of you so no need to say anything)
-The Last turn of the last sector, before the pit entrance (doing this will allow always to do the turn in 4th gear and if well done in green/yellow tires it can be done in 5th gear).

Well that's it and more 200pts for me, since it was at 0pts.

And since you guys know (specially seeing my 24 hour Nurb) that I'm not a great driver at Nurb, I almost can say that this setup is a overkill (has far has possible in the challenge) for this race.

The only hard part is until you change to N3/N3 (and keep those tires for enough time).

 

[nige]

Well ok, here the surprise....

Nurb 1000 Miles for 200pts

This time (has almost always) the winner was the '62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3)

And this time it was a special win (I already had took down a Corvette C2 and a Fairlady 2000 in Opera in this event with the same car, with about 100hp), so that makes this a little less special, but Nurb and Opera are completely different places, so I needed to make some changes...

The Opponents this time where not only the Corvette C2 and Fairlady 2000, but also a Elan S1 and a 300SL (the 5th car was a Karmann Ghia, so it doesn't matter for anything except to brig the points down...).

So you see why I said a little surprise...

And now the setups, since I already said the line up (that was somewhere between 10-20 lineups after reset).

The Car was with 395Km (since I used it to race Côte D'Azur in this event earlier)
Nitrous [100]
Tires N1/N3 at start, then changed to N3/N3
All non-power, non-weight mods
NA Tune Stage 2
Racing Chip
Total power was 138hp (in the change part menu)
168 Ballast (50 in the back)
No Aids
Auto setup-4 (big mistake here)

Final stands:
'62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3) - 3:52:34.799
Corvette C2 - +0:05.325
300SL - + over 3 minutes
Fairlady 2000 - + over 4 minutes
Elan S1 - + over some more (maybe it was 5-6 minutes behind)
Karmann Ghia - + 2 Laps

I pitted in laps: 6, 10, 15, 20
Corvette C2: 5, 10, 15, 20
300SL: 5, 11, 17, 23
Fairlady 2000: 6 (don't know the others but where probably 12, 18, 24).

My big mistake with the gear box was that the car was limited to 190Km/h and every time it hit that mark it would came back to 175Km/h or so (the car should be allowed to hit the 200 normally, but if you try to do it only change 5th and 6th gear or you may lower to much acceleration).

Now the race.

Well I started in last, and in the 3 first sections got to first (used about half the nitrous).

Then I just had to block the Corvette C2 (and know him of the track some times), later (because of the time I put him out of track), the 300SL catch up and got to us, so I had to block both (this was always like this until lap 5 where they pitted and didn't noticed, since I was expecting then to pit in lap 7), but at that time the Fairlady 2000 was near me too (about 8 seconds in the start of lap 6), but I was able to keep up and at the end of the lap I had a 25 seconds lead over him, so I pitted (but the Corvette was already near him too), so after the pit (and change tires to all N3) I returned to the race right behind the Corvette (that I overtook in the first section).

After this I noticed that the 300SL was starting to stay behind and that I was almost has fast has the corvette, so I changed my pit strategy for the same time has the Corvette (but oddly I was barely able to get 5 laps from my tires, I normally was only able to get 3-4 laps of it and race the lats lap in
red or almost red tires (but since the Corvette was already badly I was able to still make some time in the turns over him).

So the Race was basically that and I ended the race with 3/5 of the last half of the nitrous.

Also some notes:
-I cut the turns at the first section right after the first right turn (it's not faster, but it will allow you to make the next left turn faster, that could give you about 2 seconds with this car setup)
-The turns at the end of sector 3 (well this is normally done by a lot of you so no need to say anything)
-The Last turn of the last sector, before the pit entrance (doing this will allow always to do the turn in 4th gear and if well done in green/yellow tires it can be done in 5th gear).

Well that's it and more 200pts for me, since it was at 0pts.

And since you guys know (specially seeing my 24 hour Nurb) that I'm not a great driver at Nurb, I almost can say that this setup is a overkill (has far has possible in the challenge) for this race.

The only hard part is until you change to N3/N3 (and keep those tires for enough time).

Han - that is a brilliant achievement and yes. what a surprise!!. Very well done indeed. As you know this is one of the last two races I have left so I'll definitely have to give this a go. Thank you also for such a detailed and comprehensive report . I'm sure there will be a few, including me, drooling over this one.
Again, absolutely brilliant.

nige

 

[Moloch_horridus]

Well ok, here the surprise....
Nurb 1000 Miles for 200pts

This time (has almost always) the winner was the '62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3)

Wow! You have inspired me to have another go at this. I had no idea that the Corvette and the 300SL could be beaten. That will make a huge difference. I think I will give this another go in the Mazda 110S (L10A) that I had previously tried in - this lineup could also be good for Le Sarthe.

Good work

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Thanks.

I knew that it would be a surprise (I had already beat the Corvette in Opera, but that is a completely different track).

And I was testing some cars to see what I could do of new here, so I saw this lineup, and since it had 4 great cars (and even the Karmann Ghia isn't really the worst friend of pts), so I started creating the setup for this car since it's the best I can get here (I was looking for something heavy, so I could add more power then normally, and also a good car in N1 tires, that's that one for sure).

So the big surprise was really that I was looking for the strongest possible lineup (without a AC Cars...), instead of the normal thing (trying to find a line up with only 1 or 2 not to much fast cars and without any turtle, and try to beat them).

This was also the way of thinking I used in the past for other events...
And has for Sarthe, I'm not sure if this would work, since those cars are all really fast in straight line, but since I still need to win that one I may see what I can do there...

Also if someone whats more power in that setup (and more weight), you can only add 1hp at most (and putting the ballast at 200 or near that), but I don't know if there's a way to put this car with 139hp (at least just by adding parts isn't possible, or it will require some permanent power mods).

 

[AMG.]

Interesting news.👍 Will give this a try tomorrow. Who knows I might even obtain the missing 17 points.

AMG.

 

[AMG.]

Nurb 1000 Miles for 200pts
.... said the line up (that was somewhere between 10-20 lineups after reset).

I’ve tried to find your lineup but so far failed. I’ve been through 34 lineups from a cold start of my PS2 and found these four that include the Corvette C2. I excluded the lineups that also had the Cobra.

Nurb 1000 Miles for 200pts
The Opponents this time where not only the Corvette C2 and Fairlady 2000, but also a Elan S1 and a 300SL (the 5th car was a Karmann Ghia, so it doesn't matter for anything except to brig the points down...).

The Car was with 395Km Nitrous [100] Tires N1/N3 at start, then changed to N3/N3 All non-power, non-weight mods NA Tune Stage 2 Racing Chip
Total power was 138hp (in the change part menu) 168 Ballast (50 in the back)
Final stands:
'62 Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3) - 3:52:34.799
Corvette C2 - +0:05.325
300SL - + over 3 minutes
Fairlady 2000 - + over 4 minutes
Elan S1 - + over some more (maybe it was 5-6 minutes behind)
Karmann Ghia - + 2 Laps

Your lineup *
1049 - Corvette C2
0932 - Fairlady 2000
0934 - Elan S1
0993 - 300SL
0681 -Karmann

Lineup 12
1049 - Corvette
0858 - Isuzu 117
0742 - 1500 Deluxe
0993 - 300SL
0681 - Karmann

Lineup 14
0888 - GTA
0681 - Karmann
1049 - Corvette
0851 - GSS
0935 - Ginetta

Lineup 26
0844 - Duetto
1049 - Corvette
0861 - Mazda 110 (or 0892 for the (L10B)
0681 - Karmann
0758 - Honda S800

Lineup 27
0846 - Marcos
1049 - Corvette
0993 - 300 SL
0742 - 1500 Deluxe
0844 - Duetto

I entered with the BLRA (old oil & >10k miles) set to 120 bhp (toolkit option in race screen) No Ballast and car on N1 tyres.

Lineup 12 111 bhp > 200 pts. I couldn’t configure the car between 112 and 119 bhp. Configuring for 120 bhp gave < 200 points. I didn’t try out ballast to work out a 200 pointer.
Lineup 14 120 bhp = 187 pts (adding 130 ballast brought it up to 200 points)
Lineup 27 120 bhp = 193 pts
Lineup 27 139 bhp = 160 pts

10 Ballast = 1 point.
1 bhp = ± 1.7 points.

The strongest lineup in these four is #27. The Corvette is worth 1049 points and the lowest is the Skyline 1500 at 742. For * values check out WildCobra’s thread in this subforum. In your post you mention using the BLRA on N1 with 138 bhp & 168 ballast and it has the Corvette & the Karmann. The Karmann itself make you lose 6 Aspec points.
To get a BLRA with 139 bhp (160 pts vs lineup #27) you need 40x10 ballast and that is not possible. With a weaker lineup (= karmann) you would need even more weight to make up for it.


I am not contesting your victory of 200 points in this race but I find it hard to believe your lineup/setup given the above details I found.
Please prove me wrong as I very much want to win this race for 200 points too and I need all the help I can get.

Please can you verify the lineup you used and which # it was (I am assuming you are on PAL) Can you verify your settings (hp & ballast)

Personally I couldn't keep the Corvette behind me for more than 1 lap. He uses the grass to overtake and he's too big to shove off the track.


AMG.

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Yes, I'm playing Pal version.

it's lineup number 11 (the AC will appear in the line ups number 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, if you want to see if it's the same places).

Also the lineup order is:

Karmann Ghia
Corvette C2
Fairlady 2000
Elan S1
300SL

The car was in N1/N3, 138hp (setting/ change part menu), 168 Ballast.

And yes, the Corvette sometimes try to overtake on the grass (he only tried 1 time to do it to me, since I was almost always to far from him for it has a chance of trying that, he normally only would catch me in the long straight, and even so I was able to race almost all laps between 7 and 14 without even seeing him near me...)

I would put a pic of this, but since I don't own a camera or any other way to take 1, I will not be able to do that.

Has for the extra hp thing I never completely understood how those mechanic work (even after reading that guide), so it was a guess nothing else.

 

[AMG.]

it's lineup number 11 (the AC will appear in the line ups number 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, if you want to see if it's the same places). Also the lineup order is: Karmann Ghia Corvette C2 Fairlady 2000 Elan S1 300SL The car was in N1/N3, 138hp (setting/ change part menu), 168 Ballast.

Thx for that, I double checked the AC and it seems we have some minor differences . The AC appears for me in 3 6 8 9 11 and 13.

Am on my 2nd attempt of the day to try this. using the BLRA on N1 with 103 hp and 10 ballast against #2 Honda S800, bellet 1600, Elan, Silvia csd311, 300SL. I qualified to save NOS. Just started lap 6. The SL300 pits at the end of lap 5 and the Elan is 0.3 secs behind me. From my 1st race I know he doesnt pit until he has completed lap 13 and I have 5 units NOS left.


EDIT: and on lap 7 (it must be a cursed lap) both the SL300 and the Elan overtake me. Race aborted again. I'm seriously giving thought to end this impossible quest. (There's no more fun in it) I just lack the skills.
AMG.

 

[nualum]

I've read the classics lineups change from car to car... but do they change with different hp ratings also?

Edit 5/25:

Nope, but that's something you can easily check yourself

Indeed, but it was the beginning of a long day stuck in the office.

 

[AMG.]

I've read the classics lineups change from car to car... but do they change with different hp ratings also?

Nope, but that's something you can easily check yourself

 

[nige]

Have just managed 200 points in 1000 Miles! at Nurby using Han_The_ Dragon's car and line up ( for details see Post 42 ). Thank you sir very much for this great find.👍 👍 👍 👍
It is the most manageable of all the 200 point line ups at Nurby in this series. My final margin of victory was 18 seconds.
That takes my points tally to 111784. Only 1 race to go!!!!!! And guess what that is............................!!!!

nige

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Congrats in that win

And it's good to see that it help you making that much easier.

Unfortunately I tried that in Sarthe (with some gear box changes, so the car could do 200Km/h, but I think it may hit the 210Km/h there), but unfortunately the 300SL do 240-250Km/h there, the Corvette 230Km/h and the Fairlady 2000 do also 230Km/h, so we would have 3 to fast cars to block, and I don't think that anyone is able to block 3 cars at the same time (it was already a bit hard to block the 300SL and Corvette in the first laps of Nurb, to make me think it is possible to do here).

So I will have to find other way to do this (and learn how to drive to see if I can win my 6 1-make races...)

 

[nige]

Han - Have you tried my line up in Post 40? It needs blocking techniques ofcourse but it was the easiest of all the line ups I have tried. I managed to do it with 40 seconds to spare!!

Happy racing,

nige

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

No, I didn't tried it.

Well I didn't tried almost anything in that race, since I always though it would be much harder then Nurb (but then I always hard Nurb 24hours has a really long and hard race, and it turned out to be an average difficult long race, but nothing to hard, and in some way I can say the same for the roadster 4 hours, I think everyone makes it seam harder then what it is in reality).

Also I just finished wear my Concept S-2 to be able to put some N3 on it, so I will probably be fighting this thing until win those 2 races before give a new try to that final 1000 Niles! race.

 

[AMG.]

Nige & Han, thx for double-checking those lineups for 1000mls Nurb. I can now absolutely confirm that you two have a different PAL version of GT4 than I have. Looks like I'll be going beyond lineup 34 to find 'yours'

AMG.

 

[nige]

Nige & Han, thx for double-checking those lineups for 1000mls Nurb. I can now absolutely confirm that you two have a different version of GT4 than I have. Looks like I'll be going beyond lineup 34 to find 'yours'

AMG.

AMG _ I can assure you that the time taken finding "the" lne up will be worth the effort. I thought it was going to be a real struggle but as it turned out it was one of the more relaxing 200 pointers.
Once you get past the first few laps things are much easier, that is after the first pit stop on lap 5. You may only encounter the Corvette a few times - when he may catch up on the straights. And I bet you don't see the Merc at all!!!!! I was really surprised by that, pleasantly so!
The race is not one of those highly charged affairs where you are constantly looking in your mirror. Once or twice maybe.
So it's worth the effort finding it.

BTW - Don't understand about different versions of the same game - Presumably you have PAL

Good luck,

nige

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Well I couldn't bother with my other Suzuki Concept race, so I started to try to find nige's lineup to do Sarthe in the 1000 Miles!, but I wasn't able to find it (well I only looked until line up number 24/25, that was where I found the lineup I used).

Sarthe 1000 Miles for 200pts

When I was looking for his lineup I was only checking if a Ginetta and Skyline 2000 GT where there and they where in that lineup so (since nige didn't post the mods, ballast used) I started to see what I could do and then tried to see how easy it would be (and I was thinking that was possible), then reset my ps2 (for the 100% win) and retry.

Just after all that I noticed that he raced against a Fiat 500F and the worst car in my line up was a Karmann Ghia (this car seams to be in all the lineups where I won...)

So the victims this time where the Ginetta G4, Skyline 2000 GT-B, Karmann Ghia, Isuzu 117 Coupe and Alfa GSS.

Car used: Skyline Sports Coupe (BLRA-3), that was previously used in C&#244;te D'Azur and Nurb (it was with 911 Km at the start of the race).
Body refreshment plan (since it was needing one, and even thinking that I always forget to buy it).

Nitrous [100]
Sports Exhaustion
Racing Chip
N1/N3 tires (change to N2/N3)
All the usual non-power, non-weight mods
No Aids
153 Ballast (50 in the back)
Used the Default Suspension, Gears and LDS setups

Now the race.

For someone who was saying that blocking 3 cars was to much, I did a bit over to much.

First I cut both turns at the end and at the start of the track in every lap (and always in a way to don't lone to much speed in the sand)

Now.

At the start I took first place in the long straight (I didn't want to use a lot of nitrous), then I had to block the Ginetta there to, when I was near the end of the long straight, the other 3 (the Karmann Ghia was completely out of the race) catch us and I had to choose who I would block, so since I knew the Ginetta would so some bad moves I let him go and blocked the other try (not easy but done), at the second half of the lap I had to let the Ginetta pass again (and also the Skyline, since I wasn't able to block him), but overtook both at the end of the lap (thanks to cutting the turns).

In the second lap this was almost the same, but at the end of lap 3 the Skyline started to lose time, so less 1 to block.

After this (and until the Ginetta pit) I had to block normally the Ginetta (that sometimes I would let him go without blocking, so I could then overtake him without problems. since he would be out of the track), or had to block the other 2 (GSS and 117 Coupe) because the Ginetta with all his mistakes would stay behind, they where almost always together and that made things harder, and in other times (not to frequently for my good) I had to block the 3 of them (in those cases I normally would try to block the GSS and 117 Coupe and let the Ginetta pass if I couldn't keep him too).

Well this was the race until the end of lap 14 (and also the end of my nitrous). In this lap the Ginetta pitted (to never be saw again).

So then I would just have to block the GSS and 117 Coupe (but they where always together), so I blocked them, since I really couldn't let them pass.

At about lap 16 I was starting to make some time to them (only because I was cutting the turns and even so it was only about 1 second per lap). And Fortunately the Alfa pitted alone in lap 17, so I only needed to block the 117 Coupe.

And since I was at half race I decided to pit in lap 18 (well this was my pit strategy from the start of the race), even if my tires where only starting to turn yellow at that time. And for my surprise the 117 Coupe also pitted in that lap.

But after that I only had to block him for more 2 or 3 laps (and only in the last 2 sectors of the track, and only 1 or 2 times). After that I started to make time over him and never had a single problem with him.

So the final result was something like:
Me - 3:15:03.801
117 Coupe - +35 or so seconds
GSS - +1:15 or so minutes
Ginetta - over 2 minutes
Skyline - over 4 minutes
Karmann Ghia - 1 lap

I really liked this race (specially the first half), I think this maybe have been harder then Nurb overall, but was a fun race for sure.

And 200 more for me 6 races to go (5 1-make to do until do the last 24hour race).

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And something I noticed (and then used to do a test).

After the race the car hp dropped a little (not to strange since it was with 1384Km on it).

But the thing is that I tried to add some mods to see if I could put it in 139hp (and was able).

Then I took it against my Nurb lineup to see if it would give 200pts with that power and it actually gives (and no need for max ballast).

Here the setup (with my Skyline sports Coupe (BLRA-3) with 1384Km on it)
Same has my original setup, but change the Number of ballast to 188 and switch the Racing Chip for a Racing Exhaustion. this will give 200pts against my other lineup (but I think the other setup may be better)

Also the power (without any power upgrades) in the place where you sell the car was 93hp and 152.59Nm

 

[AMG.]

Congrats Han on the Sarthe victory.
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1000 miles Nurburgring
In search of the elusive lineup #11 Karmann, Corvette, Elan, 300SL, Fairlady 2000.
I stumbled across
Lineup #47. Elan, 300SL, Corvette,Fiat 500F, GTA. The BLRA with 127bhp N1 and 10 ballast offered 200 points. It was known that the Corvette C2 would pit on lap 5 and so would the 300SL.
Of course the C2 decides to come in on lap 4 and the Merc carries on and so do I. By lap 11 or 12 or so it was clear, there’s no way I’m going to win this race.

#77 Isuzu, Jag E type Corvette Elan and 300 SL. N1 150bhp 30 ballast but yet again their pitstops mess it up for me.

#93 Fairlady 2000, Toyota Sports 800, 300SL, GTA & Marcos. Fairlady pits on 6 and the 300 on 5. I thought I’d try a 1 pit strategy so I carry on till end of lap 12 and on lap 14 I abort.

#101 Karmann, Ginetta, Isuzu 117, 300 SL, Corvette and me in the BLRA N1/2 126 bhp 30 ballast.
I Bspec to check on pitstops an lo and behold the Corvette and the 300SL come in on lap 5.
Restart the race and jump in my BLRA. Make the usual pits on 5 (switched to N3/3) 10 15 and 20.
The Merc falls behind later on in the game and it is me and the Corvette to battle it out.
I notice that every 3rd and 4th lap the Corvette is the most dangerous and sure enough on lap 19 he takes me out and I spin on the long straight. Cost me 15 secs and I was down to 3 units NOS. I also knew that his every 5th lap was bad. I manage to catch up by T10 as we start heading down the long straight. A bit of NOS here and there and I can draft him. He and I are about to pit on this lap and I am determined to enter the pit before he does. I slam in to the C2 and with some fancy steering I indeed make it in to the pit. When I exit the pit I’m 9 secs behind the C2 in 2nd. Lady Fortune finally on me. The C2 is forced to carry on with worn tyres! Too bad he's not out of fuel too.

Yippee

By the time he exits the pit to start lap 22 I am 1m and 52 secs ahead. He manages to bring down the gap to 1m 10secs as I cross the finish line on lap 25.
17 points gained for 200 and only Sarthe to go.

I carried on looking for "#11" and went up to #111 then decided to quit searching. I have my 200 points. Oh yeah.

Edit: the BLRA on N3/3 with my style of driving did 5 laps easily and in the 3rd quarter of lap 5 they turned yellow, another lap would have seen them turn orange. The rears were nice n green.

AMG.

 

[Han_the_Dragon]

Thanks. And congrats to you too for that great win

That was even better (and harder) then the one I did, specially since you where with more then 10 hp less then in my setup and still against the Corvette C2.

And great move there on lap 20, that was really a move of a genius.