Everyone using laging excuse?

[dr_slump]

I was there and I don't think he was ever host. Sometimes you get an error that says "You have been kicked" when really no one kicked you. Rare, but I've personally had it happen.


BTW, good runs slump, if you got anymore cars, don't hesitate to throw me a PM 👍

Thanks man, you're tunes are also very impressive! 👍
Could be that I'll focus a bit more on 1/4 drag in future, don't know. We'll see.....

You where running with iwinyoulooze on gt 40 no stripe, you write "hey Perti ur lagging" and puff, anyway that doesn't mean a thing, ohh and your Enzo it awesome. You can share with me on pm lol.

Thanks!
My enzo wasn't that good, it's a tunnel tune. Could be better.

 

[GTP_Kazama]

Verry true, but the internet speed by itself wont help you much, since most of the players have at least 8mbit which is enough i guess. Its the latency that is the problem. But if you are lagging and your car is glithing around, that can be due to many stuff, which are listed in previous threads. Both players can have 100/100mbit connection, running thru wire, static ip etc, but the one thats closer to the ghost will have advantage, no rocket science. It hardly matters how much data you can transfer per second, its how long it takes for the data to reach there. But yes, if you have like 2/0.3mbit and you upgrade to like 30/10mbit you will probably have better online performance i guess. It also has to do with your router, and the router settings.

Good to see i'm not alone in having this knowledge...still doesn't change the fact it's absolutely useless drag racing in gt5...

 

[Perti78]

Good to see i'm not alone in having this knowledge...still doesn't change the fact it's absolutely useless drag racing in gt5...

I don't drift so much and I don't start calling it Useless. But opinions are opinions, even useless ones.

 

[GTP_Kazama]

Buddy, trying to make a comparison from two different situations is useless, ever attend science class? Drifting can be compared because one hundredth of a second makes no difference at all. It's just like what I was talking about: All the big mouths and braggers thinking they are something that they aren't because of technical errors they are not even aware of let alone take into consideration. Then when the problem is solved these bigmouths are nowhere to be seen. Bring on GT6 and multiplayer LA Strip, until then a difference of a thousandth of a second makes drag racing on GT5...Useless. You won't prove nothing beating someone by less than 2-3 car lengths.

 

[Perti78]

Buddy, trying to make a comparison from two different situations is useless, ever attend science class? Drifting can be compared because one hundredth of a second makes no difference at all. It's just like what I was talking about: All the big mouths and braggers thinking they are something that they aren't because of technical errors they are not even aware of let alone take into consideration. Then when the problem is solved these bigmouths are nowhere to be seen. Bring on GT6 and multiplayer LA Strip, until then a difference of a thousandth of a second makes drag racing on GT5...Useless. You won't prove nothing beating someone by less than 2-3 car lengths.

I'm not bragging about beating, even say I'm not a pro and consider myself a noob, gt6 it's still a long shot from coming, were all hoping for a drag system, if you don't like it, then dont reply in the drag forum. Even in the legal system comparisons from another verdict can affect a judge or jury decision, so again your favorite word "useless" don't apply here. Cheers.

 

[TT3AZ]

Buddy, trying to make a comparison from two different situations is useless, ever attend science class? Drifting can be compared because one hundredth of a second makes no difference at all. It's just like what I was talking about: All the big mouths and braggers thinking they are something that they aren't because of technical errors they are not even aware of let alone take into consideration. Then when the problem is solved these bigmouths are nowhere to be seen. Bring on GT6 and multiplayer LA Strip, until then a difference of a thousandth of a second makes drag racing on GT5...Useless. You won't prove nothing beating someone by less than 2-3 car lengths.

This should all so called dragers read . And this should also Kaz read, maybe he take drag racing into consideration with Spec 2.0, that by the way doesnt show any sign on drag mode or similar

And yes, draging in gt5 was fun, but now when all these errors have been exposed, its pretty useless. The only thing we need in gt5 is simply a individual timer, from point A to point B on a straight line, simples is that, and hence a huge improvement comparing to gt5 drag these days.

@ Perti78
Actually we need more people like him dragging, because, how can gt5 drag envolve when people arent even aware of these errors? The problem in gt5 is that far to many people truly believe thay are the fastest one just because they get the jump of the line, and that is straight up BS. If you have played gt5 drag for 10 months, you are getting sick and tired of all these missguided people living in a dream, just because they have watched some videos on youtube.

 

[DLR]

Everyone seems to take this so seriously. The rare times I encounter consistent ghost lag, you can tell if their tune is good or not. Then just add them and sooner or later you'll run them again in a room with no lag and tell who has the better tune. Also, I don't really think it matters where you live, me and slump ran a few times (He is in Switzerland and me in the US) with an AMERICAN ghost and we took off evenly, in fact sometimes he got the jump.

Bottom line, 99.999% of the time, you can tell who has better tune, unless your router is made of wood or you live on the moon. And who cares if you have the best tune? No I'm not the fastest, I have never claimed to be. I drag for fun, as it should be.

 

[Slash]

I drag for fun, as it should be.

This.

 

[TT3AZ]

Everyone seems to take this so seriously. The rare times I encounter consistent ghost lag, you can tell if their tune is good or not. Then just add them and sooner or later you'll run them again in a room with no lag and tell who has the better tune. Also, I don't really think it matters where you live, me and slump ran a few times (He is in Switzerland and me in the US) with an AMERICAN ghost and we took off evenly, in fact sometimes he got the jump.

Bottom line, 99.999% of the time, you can tell who has better tune, unless your router is made of wood or you live on the moon. And who cares if you have the best tune? No I'm not the fastest, I have never claimed to be. I drag for fun, as it should be.

Latency does make differance, with that said, you still can get good launches. But if you have the same reaction, the one that lives closer will have a advantage, just do the math and you see. I often play on US servers as well, but some times the latency issues are far more visible. Also, how close did the US ghost lived to you? It becomes more visible if the ghost lives much more closer to you. For example if one lives in cali and the ghost also lives there, that person will have the technically advantage comparing to one that lives in new york. I would say ghost lag is a mix of latency, connection speed, connection quality, connection to your psn server, router brand, and router settings. How come 9 out of 10 times when i play on a UK server with a UK ghost, they get the launch? I doubt they have like 0.15, 0,2 seconds reaction...Same when i host a server in sweden, with swedish players, i get the advantage...

Then, the opponent might as well have better reaction, or better tuning that causes him to jump of the launch, but we will never for sure find out...

 

[DLR]

Latency does make differance, with that said, you still can get good launches. But if you have the same reaction, the one that lives closer will have a advantage, just do the math and you see. I often play on US servers as well, but some times the latency issues are far more visible. Also, how close did the US ghost lived to you? It becomes more visible if the ghost lives much more closer to you. For example if one lives in cali and the ghost also lives there, that person will have the technically advantage comparing to one that lives in new york. I would say ghost lag is a mix of latency, connection speed, connection quality, connection to your psn server, router brand, and router settings. How come 9 out of 10 times when i play on a UK server with a UK ghost, they get the launch? I doubt they have like 0.15, 0,2 seconds reaction...Same when i host a server in sweden, with swedish players, i get the advantage...

Then, the opponent might as well have better reaction, or better tuning that causes him to jump of the launch, but we will never for sure find out...

Ok, I have done a few runs via time before, and .15 seconds is HUGE. I have rarely seen ghost lag that bad before. Usually its not bad enough that you notice it, just it seems that your opponent has reflexes only exhibited by a house fly and gets the "hole shot". I guess it all comes down to your net connection.

 

[Slash]

Ok, I have done a few runs via time before, and .15 seconds is HUGE. I have rarely seen ghost lag that bad before. Usually its not bad enough that you notice it, just it seems that your opponent has reflexes only exhibited by a house fly and gets the "hole shot". I guess it all comes down to your net connection.

The worst I ever had was .30 seconds, when I got the ghost the guy I was against was already past the first bridge.

 

[DLR]

The worst I ever had was .30 seconds, when I got the ghost the guy I was against was already past the first bridge.

Most of the time your opponent sees that he got the jump and backs up for another run. MOST of the time...

 

[Slash]

Ya most of the time.

 

[TT3AZ]

Well, if you mostly play with US people on US hosted rooms, you wont see ghost lag that much. But if you would play on EU servers with EU players, you would see what i mean....i have played on US servers mostly, for 10 months, i know the errors...

Its not that people dont run back, because some do, but its the whole process of dragging that is the problem. As i said before, more and more time is beeing put on getting equal launches, then actually "enjoying" the game and tuning. And im guilty of that as well, people want fair race.

 

[d24689]

The worst ghost lag i'v seen is 3 seconds and 5 to 6 people saw it. I would line up against someone and he would leave, 3 seconds later it went ghost!!!!. then second run with same guy and same guy ghosting i left and he got 3 second ghost lag. BTW the guy ghosting was american.

 

[f_399]

do the servers work based on where your physical location is or where you registered your psn as?

 

[Perti78]

Ok, did a test last night with a few friends. All of us with US servers (we live in Puerto Rico but the island is US territory). Here's what we find, whichever who is the host on the lobby, will have a lead when some one else is ghosting. Meaning, I'm the host about to race, someone else is ghosting when he ghost I will have a .20 or .30 microseconds lead on my opponent. I change room, no longer hosting, and my friend who is hosting got that lead then. Our cars have a very similar tune as we test together. So the host will have the rear bumper in front of yours all race long. If you guys can do the same tests and post here will be nice.

This test was done with gtr's.

 

[yumadbroski]

good info perti, thnaks

what causes the lag, is it a server thing like all US servers will be in one, be it puerto rico, mainland usa or hawai... or is it more a physical geographic location?

when registering for a psn your free to pick whatever country you want, doesnt matter if you actually live there right?

 

[TT3AZ]

good info perti, thnaks

what causes the lag, is it a server thing like all US servers will be in one, be it puerto rico, mainland usa or hawai... or is it more a physical geographic location?

when registering for a psn your free to pick whatever country you want, doesnt matter if you actually live there right?

It does matter, the longer distance between you and the other player, and the host affects. You can live in sweden, and register on US, but it doesnt matter, because the data has to travel from your ps3 located in sweden, to US sort of. The distance the data has to travel from US player to US player is much less than from US to sweden. But if both are US players, and a person treeing is from sweden, its much more fair, because both US players have the same long distance to sweden so to say. The geographical distance does matter, even in US, depening on where you live. Thats why people from west coast playing with people from east coast can see lag. Not only that, the west coast people have better connection to their PSN servers according to different sources, so that affects as well.

Besides, i know plenty of people that register on US, just because they dont want to get kicked from US servers, some members from dragaholics does that, and i can clearly see that they are not from US, because they lagging as hell playing on US server with US ghost...

 

[Perti78]

good info perti, thnaks

what causes the lag, is it a server thing like all US servers will be in one, be it puerto rico, mainland usa or hawai... or is it more a physical geographic location?

when registering for a psn your free to pick whatever country you want, doesnt matter if you actually live there right?

It's part of us but it's located in the Caribbean. Anyless I can choosewhatever country I want. Let's say it Hawaii but located on the east part, Hawaii being on the west of US

 

[dr_slump]

Besides, i know plenty of people that register on US, just because they dont want to get kicked from US servers, some members from dragaholics does that, and i can clearly see that they are not from US, because they lagging as hell playing on US server with US ghost...

But I can understand them. It's really annoying to get kicked the whole time without any reason.

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Everyone's talking about servers, but I thought it's a peer to peer connection(?).

 

[TT3AZ]

But I can understand them. It's really annoying to get kicked the whole time without any reason.

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Everyone's talking about servers, but I thought it's a peer to peer connection(?).

It is a peer to peer connection, but "server" in this case, mean the person hosting the "room". Also, there is PSN servers, but the game isnt hosted there as far as i know?

 

[midnight910]

But the funny thing is when me and a few other people drag in a lounge instead of a lobby I find less lag and problems there has anyone else experienced this?

 

[TT3AZ]

But the funny thing is when me and a few other people drag in a lounge instead of a lobby I find less lag and problems there has anyone else experienced this?

I see the opposite, we have better performance in public rooms, but that could be because we come from all different places i guess. Any how, this gt5 dragging isnt a long term activity. Yes, manny people are coming to the drag community, but also some people are leaving nowdays...

 

[midnight910]

I see the opposite, we have better performance in public rooms, but that could be because we come from all different places i guess. Any how, this gt5 dragging isnt a long term activity. Yes, manny people are coming to the drag community, but also some people are leaving nowdays...

Oo okay well in thiis new update and dlc there are no signs of drag so I wonder what will happen after they drop this month

 

[TT3AZ]

Oo okay well in thiis new update and dlc there are no signs of drag so I wonder what will happen after they drop this month

I wonder as well. But i can be sure the reason they didnt implement drag is because its slightly different then circuit racing i guess? You see, nascar, rally, "regular" racing is all about going in a circle, no point to point that is. Or would it work the same, to have a start from point A to point B, and then see your total time? In that case, its pure lazyness from PD. I dont even think PD knows whats "hot", judging by the wierd premium car list, and outdated functions. We dont have any "wow" features in gt5, everything is complicated, we can even enter the tuning screen without restarting the race. many decisions made by PD, i cant understand. A part of the problem is the japanese organizational culture, they will never admit they are wrong in public, and they always think their stuff are the best. In reality, manny japanses stuff are piece of ****.

 

[dr_slump]

Always, always, always...........
Seriously, don't say things like that. Everything has good and bad sides. It isn't up to you to judge about other people and their work in general. Nobody can do that.
Just to let you know: Without the japanese, there wouldn't be a GT5 or even Playstation. Think about it.

EDIT: I see you got banned........hopefully enough time to think about it and to see where you made a mistake.

 

[Perti78]

Wow TT3 banned? Ohh race related, bad.

 

[DLR]

tt3 got banned?!?!? Why?!?

 

[Slash]

tt3 got banned?!?!? Why?!?

When did this happen? He isn't on the banned users list, maybe it's just a suspension.