Evil Cars in GT4...
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Eric.
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I don't know, I tuned a Ford GT prizecar (solid color) all the way and found it pretty much impossible to drive. And I like to drive the Yellowbird. I do, however, need to try the same thing on the normal GT because I've heard the prizecar has different stats. It has less downforce, for one. It's a shame too, a solid white GT with a black wing and nice wheels looks amazing.
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- gtjezard
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Got any pics of this? Sounds awesome. I find the striped GT to be just a tad better than the prizecar GT, but I still like my purple one that I got, I don't remember which race I won it in though
I'll check the prizecar list now!Edit: It was in the Premium Sports Lounge one, but that's just like the Supercar Festival all over again
Better get to it!
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- JKM007
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the speed 12 it is a monster 
i like the R8
i like the R8- 74
- scotland2810
the cobra is a lovly car to drive lol just need to take ur time and love power
i think 300z is a pain in ass at all times no power when u need it and all when u dnt
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Master_Yoda
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the cobra is a lovly car to drive lol just need to take ur time and love power
i think 300z is a pain in ass at all times no power when u need it and all when u dnt
350Z? Or 300ZX? Either way, i've never had a single problem with any of them. Stock or tunned. There perfect for me. Just turn the aids.... Well do that on all cars
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Caterham Fireblade with everything on it = sideways in 1st gear.
Tried it at the 'Ring, almost soiled myself coming into Tiergartens.
Well, your basically putting engine on wheels, and forgetting about the sterring.
I think you guys need to have some commen sense before you say it sucks..
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Not exactly an evil car report but an interesting behavioral characteristic of the GTF car : it has incredible bump steering. I thought it could be the negative camber used to enhance grip but no...
I drove the car viewing from the topcam and found that the front linkage is so loose that they wobble and wiggle to every side. At a serious road surface defect this causes serious bump steering. Try the Nürburgring with it at high speeds (rise the car first to prevent bottoming out and sitffen the spring rates just a tad) and se what I mean.
The bump steering gets even worse when you soften the suspension settings a bit; even at the test course you can spin out due to bump steering. I experienced this with the Nissan CP92 as well... So this is a problem which tends to torment formula type cars I presume. What do you folks think ?
I drove the car viewing from the topcam and found that the front linkage is so loose that they wobble and wiggle to every side. At a serious road surface defect this causes serious bump steering. Try the Nürburgring with it at high speeds (rise the car first to prevent bottoming out and sitffen the spring rates just a tad) and se what I mean.
The bump steering gets even worse when you soften the suspension settings a bit; even at the test course you can spin out due to bump steering. I experienced this with the Nissan CP92 as well... So this is a problem which tends to torment formula type cars I presume. What do you folks think ?
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You have to get it anyway for the Saleen S7 Club race and by winning that you get [another] Nike 2022. Waste of 400,000+ Cr. I am really disappointed by this supercar. And you can't even put turbos on it in GT4. Dang. I like to call the Saleen the "King of Understeer"; I find it has more understeer than the Taurus SHO at max tuning 🤬
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Even if you don't tune a Focus, the back end steps out a lot. That's because it's set to have a lot of snap oversteer.
Front wheel drive cars with very aggressive stock wheel sizes, like the Ford Focus RS and the Trial Celica, tend to have snappy rear ends (somewhat like in real life).
Unfortunately, GT4 doesn't seem to model rubber progression properly. I.E.: in real life, moving up to sports tires on a stock FF will give it a snappier rear end and a grippier front end. In GT4, this happens to some extent, but not as much as you'd expect... this has a lot to do with GT keeping the same profile tires on no matter what rubber you put on the car.
So while an Integra might feel generally snappier with race tires, it still exhibits some general understeer, which makes it easy to race with. The Focus RS, snappy to begin with, feels too quick to turn until you get used to it.
Generally the Focus RS suffers from tuning of any sort, as it's perfectly balanced as stock. The best you can do, I guess, is to soften the suspension tuning a little bit and dial down the power till you find the right balance. Some ballast may help, too, as the RS is a little too light for its own power. I've found the Focus SVT to be more tractable when fully tuned, for example.
Front wheel drive cars with very aggressive stock wheel sizes, like the Ford Focus RS and the Trial Celica, tend to have snappy rear ends (somewhat like in real life).
Unfortunately, GT4 doesn't seem to model rubber progression properly. I.E.: in real life, moving up to sports tires on a stock FF will give it a snappier rear end and a grippier front end. In GT4, this happens to some extent, but not as much as you'd expect... this has a lot to do with GT keeping the same profile tires on no matter what rubber you put on the car.
So while an Integra might feel generally snappier with race tires, it still exhibits some general understeer, which makes it easy to race with. The Focus RS, snappy to begin with, feels too quick to turn until you get used to it.
Generally the Focus RS suffers from tuning of any sort, as it's perfectly balanced as stock. The best you can do, I guess, is to soften the suspension tuning a little bit and dial down the power till you find the right balance. Some ballast may help, too, as the RS is a little too light for its own power. I've found the Focus SVT to be more tractable when fully tuned, for example.
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- witkot
I finished 66 % so far. The most evil car is Alpine . You just cant drive this b,,,h. Thoug it has some 100 HP. Its much worse than Yellowbird
All of the (insert random curse word) over powered, 4 wheel drive, rally cars. Especially with the aftermarket turbo packages. Seriously, try and drive the Suzuki Escudo without touching the VCD settings. How do the crash barriers stand up?
Never driven Alpine A110 (never fond of French cars). I've heard of it, is it the rear engined car that has a resemblence to a beetle? Does it have understeer like a bus or oversteer like a D1 car.
TVR Cerbera Speed 12. I tried, I really did. Even with traction control at 20 (whoever sets it that high should play NFS) it still squeals tries in Second Gear. It is garbage, although if the power was usable it would be faster than most of the race cars.
Never driven Alpine A110 (never fond of French cars). I've heard of it, is it the rear engined car that has a resemblence to a beetle? Does it have understeer like a bus or oversteer like a D1 car.TVR Cerbera Speed 12. I tried, I really did. Even with traction control at 20 (whoever sets it that high should play NFS) it still squeals tries in Second Gear. It is garbage, although if the power was usable it would be faster than most of the race cars.
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i think for me it is the non racing ford gt variants, i even have a thread somwhere around here about trying to fix mine... some will disagree but i know many will agree also, never had a problem with my yellow bird, drives just like in PGR3 as far as im concerned. my speed 12 is manageable but i dont use it too much because of the power sapping wheel spin, hated the cietza until fully upgraded, now it has quite an appetite for tires but it handles beautifully, also love my a110 and wish they had included more variants as well as the ferarri chasing A610.
EDIT: the spirra is pretty much useless for me but i drive it a lot just to see if i can keep it on the track
EDIT: the spirra is pretty much useless for me but i drive it a lot just to see if i can keep it on the track
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Ok that excuse for a car Toyota 7 Racer, man I have tried to race it but no avail, but i guess i am a sucker for licks cause i always beleive that i can finally tame it but you know the outcome.
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