Evil Cars in GT4...

[Philly]

Basically, after driving all of 1000 miles! with the Ginetta, jumping right into a high power car is nearly impossible. (Tried this with the Speed 12, took 3 ring laps to get around without going off every corner).

 

[Hypnotoad]

The Beetle Cup car fully tuned.

Understeering piece of sucking fhit!!

And the wheelspin!! Maybe it just didn't suit my driving style.. Maybe I just hate understeer... But I'm tellin' ya'!!

I hated that car. :'(

 

[Metar]

The Beetle Cup car fully tuned.

Understeering piece of sucking fhit!!

And the wheelspin!! Maybe it just didn't suit my driving style.. Maybe I just hate understeer... But I'm tellin' ya'!!

I hated that car. :'(

What you're complaining about is a known issue with Front-wheel-drive cars. Due to the location of the driving wheels relatively to the engine and the center of weight, the wheels, unlike in RWD setups, are under very little load - there is less force pushing them onto the ground, which is why a little 250HP Toyota Yaris Turbo can wheelspin in 6th gear. Excessive power it a big problem with FWD cars in GT4, and it makes even the best-handling FWDs (Peugeot 106s, old Hondas) become understeering pigs, because the wheels spin rather than turn the car. If you're going much above 200HP, take a car with a RWD/4WD setup, because only very few (Alfa GT, etc.) cars are set up well enough to handle the 200+HP they come with.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Oh I know about why FF cars understeer, and how they don't like too much power.

I just think that Beetle kind of takes the biscuit, there's nothing you can really do about its understeer, because you end up with a sluggish tank of a car if you tinker too much... It just ruins the driving experience, it's not fun at all... 'Least I that's my opinion, and at 50 grand... It's starting to make that ol' 905 look like a potential bargain. :/


I would like to say though... Not all powerful FF's are evil!! (*Resists the temptation to say 'Only the German ones!!!'*)

Oops. :/

 

[Hapul]

the old 'vette racer. You might say 'oh, its challenging, which makes it fun.' I think it's infuriating

 

[Cole]

Definitely the Audi Union V16 Type C. I mean, I can't even make one lap on Suzuka without slamming into the wall, spinning out of control, and having to wait 5 hours just to get back onto the road. It may have over 500 horses under the hood, but it handles like a piece of (insert curse word here)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤬

I give it an F. A big fat F. 👎

 

[topgeardude]

I´m surprised noone has mentioned the Allmighty God of Undrivability: The Auto Union! Take it to the Ring and have a blast! It took me atleast 10 tries to get a somewhat clean lap, and it was still just 8:28!

I couldn't even get it past a third of the track.

 

[XL2007]

About the Auto Union, I just got through with a run on the 'Ring with one. R2 tires, bone stock. I managed a 7:02.649 on a relatively clean run, the only problem being that if it ever spins out, it'll be a tough job of turning it back around -- that thing must have the turning radius of a sea-fairing cruise ship.

 

[Leonidae]

well duh.. that car was designed for salt flats etc.

 

[Michael88]

Ok that excuse for a car Toyota 7 Racer, man I have tried to race it but no avail, but i guess i am a sucker for licks cause i always beleive that i can finally tame it but you know the outcome.

Front: Soft racing tires
Back: Medium Racing tires
Front spring stiffness to medium
Front Spring travel very low (That helped a lot)
Front toe +1
Stabiliserses (Or however they're called in english) front 7
Brakes +2 to the front tires
Move 15% weight to the front
No driving aids.

That should make it much more competitive.

 

[RICHARDO]

well duh.. that car was designed for salt flats etc.

Actually, it was designed for Autobahn and oval runs.

 

[eg6_dude]

Tank Car! Enough said

 

[•GT 4Ever•]

That Mercedes Evo touring car in IA:15. Uggh, don't remind me.

 

[topgeardude]

Yeah that was hell.

 

[Metar]

That Mercedes Evo touring car in IA:15. Uggh, don't remind me.

That'll be the Mercedes-Benz E190 EvoII Roadcar, not Touring car.

 

[Greycap]

...this has a lot to do with GT keeping the same profile tires on no matter what rubber you put on the car...

No hard feelings, but I can tell you that this is false information, at least if applied to all cars. Buy a Lancer Evo *nomatterwhat* RS, take a look at the stock steel wheels. 15" or so, far too small. Then go and buy R class tyres for it and BOOM, look, 17" or 18" wheels are there.

The same applies at least to R32 Skylines, I've been playing a lot with them and the change really is noticable. 👍

- R -

 

[•GT 4Ever•]

A new addition: the STRATOS. I can't countersteer it, it just aggravates it, and even stock it has a mind of its own (with 185 horses!)

 

[Metar]

A new addition: the STRATOS. I can't countersteer it, it just aggravates it, and even stock it has a mind of its own (with 185 horses!)

Rally-roadcars. Says anything?

The Stratos was the first purposely-built rally/roadcar. About 500 were built, which was the minimum limit for FIA-sanctioned Rally-events Homologation - the car was, basically, built to be a rallycar. Therefore, it handles like a rallycar of that time (Pre-4WD). And with that low-power stock-handling makes it an excellent tool to practice drifting. Yes, it has a mind of it's own - but it's just a mad copy of the driver

Sorry, I'm just trying to protect one of my favourites. Beautifull, Understeer = Inexistant, and Italian.

 

[•GT 4Ever•]

S'Ok. Oh well. I gotta learn how to drift!

Thanks for the explanation. Don't get me wrong. I like the car. It's just hard to control at times, hence why I posted it here.