Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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mikemav
Be careful and don't make a mistake I made when first un-boxing my pre-release sample (as an ISR forum community tester.) I put the BMW rim on the base using the quick release, but hadn't affixed the base to anything (no table clamp and not yet screwed to my rig.) So anyway, the BMW QR was pretty tight and darn rim was about impossible to remove with nothing holding the base down (QR mechanism has since loosened, and this was also to be improved on production models so I'm told.) Anyway I had to practically stand on the base (while trying to keep it pristine) just to get the rim off. Works much better when the wheel base is properly secured, lol!
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Good Advice. We un-boxed all the items in the office and one of the guys said let's see what it looks like attached to the base. Good thing my spidey senses had a clue to your warning. Thanks!
 
@FMW: What is your opinion of the shock damper on the brake pedal now you've got your hands on it?
 
LogiForce
@FMW: What is your opinion of the shock damper on the brake pedal now you've got your hands on it?
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Well, so far I've taken it completely apart to see what they're using. For the most part it will work. The amount of O-rings they're using in the lower cartridge is excessive and the plastic bushings have no rhyme or reason. We build our shocks for our RC high end shocks somewhat similar, but not with all those O-rings and plastic bushings. I would have to imagine they thought the more O-rings that are used the less likely the shock will leak. Nope. That won't help. The white plastic inside is a low friction TPE plastic... if I have the type right in my head. There's so many we use. The baller way to have done it is to use TEFLON wherever they had the white plastic, but I understand cost benefit when having to get a product out.

There is something you can add to the shock before filling it with oil. We use something called GREEN SLIME. It's made by Associated Electric and we make something similar. It basically acts as a seal. Just coat the O-rings with this stuff and the oil seeping will be minimized...provided the O-rings don't swell. I hope they spec'd out the right O-rings to the oil they're using. I'm going to build my shock with our green slime equivalent and see what happens. I also hope I can bleed the shock correctly. We don't use shocks with reservoirs. The spring seems soft and a progressive spring would be much better. I have a good line of those. I just need to make sure on the length.

I'll know more once I fill this thing and see how the o-rings hold up. I am going to remove the flash on all the white plastic. I hate flash. Things don't seat right with flashing. :)
 
Roush_fan_99
Do you mind telling us what progressive spring you use when you get it?

this stuff? http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/1105/
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That would be the stuff :) Good old Green Slime. It seals RC shocks pretty well and should do the trick with the stock V2 shock as well.

I've been wrestling with mounting the base on my rig all evening. I needed to drill some new holes and in between I get phone calls up the waazoo including my brother who just saw Dark Knight Rises at the WB VIP premiere...What a punk! LOL

I'm working on the shock right now. I want to give this thing a good build. I'll let everyone know as soon as I find that progressive spring.

BTW: No issues taking the rims in and out with the QR. It's easy even not being mounted to a table. I took the risk and very smooth. Back to the shock...
 
Patrocles
I think you should stop your holiday early and rush home now!!
;)
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I should, but actually we decided to stay one extra day. That one extra day is worse than it looks. Before i would have been back on saterday late in the evening, having the whole sunday to try out my new toy.

Now i arriving sunday evening late, with business as usual on monday morning, i just might have the time to unpack them. But no time to try them out:nervous:

Well, there's more to life than simracing :)

@ pingwhen : Logiforce already answered your question
 
I got my shipping soon e-mail a while ago, but still no UPS tracking information. Hopefully I'll get it soon, or get the notice from ShipItAPO that they are forwarding it to my military address.
 
Well, after setting everything up last evening on my rig I have one wheel that works and the other that does not. For reference I'm talking Playstation 3 for now.
The F1 wheel boots up after pressing the start button and does it's little calibration thing and PS3 MODE works. However, the BMW wheel does not :nervous: The BMW rim won't go into PS3 mode and it's a dead stick as they say.
 
FMW
However, the BMW wheel does not :nervous: The BMW rim won't go into PS3 mode and it's a dead stick as they say.
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Thanks for the heads up :), you have just convinced me to open all this stuff up slated for shipment to a far-away land and test it prior. :scared:
 
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HoiHman
I should, but actually we decided to stay one extra day. That one extra day is worse than it looks. Before i would have been back on saterday late in the evening, having the whole sunday to try out my new toy.

Now i arriving sunday evening late, with business as usual on monday morning, i just might have the time to unpack them. But no time to try them out:nervous:

Well, there's more to life than simracing :)

@ pingwhen : Logiforce already answered your question
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yes, your wheel and pedals will always be there! spending time with family and friends is precious! please have a good holiday!
:)
 
Thanks Patocles:),

I know what you mean, but i do hope my family will last longer than my race gear LOL :D

But seriously, it's good to be away with the family and spend time with them.

It's also a lot of fun to jump in your rig, when you haven't used it a couple of weeks. The screen looks bigger, the FFB feels better. It all feels like a new experience the first time after a holiday.

When i was a kid i used to jump into those arcade racers, now my kids are at that age they want to go to the arcade halls. Seeing how those race rigs look, i'm very fortunate with what i've got at home.

Very excited to see the first customers getting their CSW and looking forward to some end users review.
 
FMW
Well, after setting everything up last evening on my rig I have one wheel that works and the other that does not. For reference I'm talking Playstation 3 for now.
The F1 wheel boots up after pressing the start button and does it's little calibration thing and PS3 MODE works. However, the BMW wheel does not :nervous: The BMW rim won't go into PS3 mode and it's a dead stick as they say.
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What FW do you have and do the start and select buttons work in Windows?


Edit: woops, without realising I Used up two posts by accident. Sorry
 
LogiForce
What FW do you have and do the start and select buttons work in Windows?


Edit: woops, without realising I Used up two posts by accident. Sorry
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I'm going to try it in Windows tonight. I saw there's a firmware update on their support site, so just maybe the production models had something old still?? I'll check for you tonight too.

On the PS3, the BMW rim was the first one I attached and nothing worked. Then I swapped it out for the F1 rim and BAMO! That one worked fine. I entered GT5 with the F1 wheel and out of curiosity I hot swapped back to the BMW rim to see if maybe something would happen. The only thing that happened is the PS3 mode light came on, but the wheel was still dead.

I'll check firmware tonight for sure. Thanks Logi :)
 
Out of curiosity, how is it possible to make sure which one isn't working, the base or the rim? For those who have both rims, they can of course try another one, as in user FMW case, but what about those who only ordered one rim?
 
FMW
I'm going to try it in Windows tonight. I saw there's a firmware update on their support site, so just maybe the production models had something old still?? I'll check for you tonight too.

On the PS3, the BMW rim was the first one I attached and nothing worked. Then I swapped it out for the F1 rim and BAMO! That one worked fine. I entered GT5 with the F1 wheel and out of curiosity I hot swapped back to the BMW rim to see if maybe something would happen. The only thing that happened is the PS3 mode light came on, but the wheel was still dead.

I'll check firmware tonight for sure. Thanks Logi :)
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The PS3 light came on but that is all? Strange... If the display works one would think the rest works as well. I have not seen this happen when I tested the stuff here. Though Fanatec changed the PCB layout so the shifter would not hit a chip on it. So no clue as to the impact of that change on production.

Also what could have happened is that the cable of the quick release has not been attached properly in the factor, a bit crooked so not all pins make contact of the flat cable. Just a guess of a possibility what could the rim work half heartedly.


bumer
Out of curiosity, how is it possible to make sure which one isn't working, the base or the rim? For those who have both rims, they can of course try another one, as in user FMW case, but what about those who only ordered one rim?
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Good point. I am sure Fanatec has thought out diagnosis patterns depending on the problem at hand. If the base works it should calibrate and even without rim the steering input still responds when turning the hub by hand, but the pedals will not until a rim is attached. If a rim does not work it will not show any display activity upon startup of the base, or in Windows one or more buttons do not work.
 
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bumer
Out of curiosity, how is it possible to make sure which one isn't working, the base or the rim? For those who have both rims, they can of course try another one, as in user FMW case, but what about those who only ordered one rim?
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That's a very good question. I was lucky, well maybe not... that I had two rims. Upon connecting the f1 rim you sure know it's working. On the PS 3 you can use the right analog directional button right away to navigate. Once I connected the BMW the screen went crazy and you can't access the wheel menu screen.
I'm sure the support team can help anyone with one rims only if they encounter the same problem I'm currently having.
I'm hooking it up to my pc to make sure I cover all bases.
 
LogiForce
The PS3 light came on but that is all? Strange... If the display works one would think the rest works as well. I have not seen this happen when I tested the stuff here. Though Fanatec changed the PCB layout so the shifter would not hit a chip on it. So no clue as to the impact of that change on production.

Also what could have happened is that the cable of the quick release has not been attached properly in the factor, a bit crooked so not all pins make contact of the flat cable. Just a guess of a possibility what could the rim work half heartedly.
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I'll check the cables. Thanks :-) though I'm hesitant to open anything up as I do want this covered under warranty or if I choose to return it all. I want to make certain I don't violate any return stipulations.
In regards to the menu. I want to clarify. The menu screen to access FF etc. did not come on. The small little PS 3 mode pin point light did. Also, the BMW rim moved to the right slightly upon getting connected. After that nothing. No buttons work.
Oh. The ps3 mode light only came on the bmw rim after I swapped from the F1 wheel that was in ps3 mode.
: )
 
FMW
I'll check the cables. Thanks :-) though I'm hesitant to open anything up as I do want this covered under warranty or if I choose to return it all. I want to make certain I don't violate any return stipulations.
In regards to the menu. I want to clarify. The menu screen to access FF etc. did not come on. The small little PS 3 mode pin point light did. Also, the BMW rim moved to the right slightly upon getting connected. After that nothing. No buttons work.
Oh. The ps3 mode light only came on the bmw rim after I swapped from the F1 wheel that was in ps3 mode.
: )
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You can not access the cable without removing a few parts. 1 is the plastic backplate and... 2 the QR which is held by the four big alen key screws on the front.
However, it might be better to contact Fanatec first about the issue and that you might suspect this and see what they reply back and if you can try to sort the QR cable yourself or if it needs to go back. Cause without an OK from Fanatec this might void warrenty. So I do not want to provoke you into doing things that could harm you more hen do good.

It seems the data is not transmitted properly from the BMW. Again could be the QR cable being inserted in a crooked way, or something else. The rims should both use FW 16 (or higher) which can not be flashed by the end-user. FW 16 worked properly on my rim here at least with non of that behaviour.

I hope for everyone else your rim issue is just a single case. Good luck at least. Luckely you at least have one rim to play with.
 
@ LogiForce. Very good advice. I don't plant to open up anything. Warranties are a wonderful thing :) I want to make sure I can help Fanatec and not ruin any forensic evidence they may need to sort it out.

@ Paskowitz: Good idea. I'll try re-loading them tonight. 💡
 
Well, here's a silly question, but after looking at the FANATEC website I need to ask this question and I didn't think to even look before...:ouch:

Will the CSW work on a PC with Windows XP. I'm only asking because all I see for Drivers are for Vista and Windows 7 machines...:nervous:
 
FMW
Well, here's a silly question, but after looking at the FANATEC website I need to ask this question and I didn't think to even look before...:ouch:

Will the CSW work on a PC with Windows XP. I'm only asking because all I see for Drivers are for Vista and Windows 7 machines...:nervous:
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Eh, I have not tried it on an 11 year old OS. Dunno. Try to install the 32-bit driver and see what happens. lol
 
FMW
However, the BMW wheel does not :nervous: The BMW rim won't go into PS3 mode and it's a dead stick as they say.
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I'll be testing one here in a few hours, will let you know how it behaves.

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2 well-stocked RC shops in my metropolitan area do not carry any springs of similar dimension to the substitutes you found for the CSP V.2's RC shock brake spring in NL Logi.

Would you happen to know who makes them and if they can be obtained online?
 
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I do not know who makes them unfortunately, they were from a big cardboard box with various springs from under the counter when I visited the shop in person. They were not marked or anything.

Drop the shop a mail where I bought them at, they ship internationally.

Pic of the spring:

CSP%20spring.JPG


Measurements:

progressive spring: 100mm long, 25mm in diameter, 6 windings for the progressive part of the spring.

The shop I bought them at:



Krikke R/C Shop: http://www.netshop.nl/shop/rc/

V.O.F. MODELBOUW KRIKKE
NIEUWEWEG 22
9711 TE GRONINGEN
(The Netherlands)
Nederland
Telefoon: (+31) (0)50-3140306
E-mailadres: krikke.racing@netshop.nl
http://www.netshop.nl
Uw Telebank/Girotel betalingen gaarne op ABN-AMRO rek.nr. 57.01.80.821 t.n.v. Modelbouw Krikke - Groningen.
IBAN: NL43ABNA0570180821 (Swift/BIC ABNANL2A)


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This is the original spring. Notices the differences. The replacement spring I used is far more robust looking.

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JogoAsobi
I'll be testing one here in a few hours, will let you know how it behaves.

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2 well-stocked RC shops in my metropolitan area do not carry any springs of similar dimension to the substitutes you found for the CSP V.2's RC shock brake spring in NL Logi.

Would you happen to know who makes them and if they can be obtained online?
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Try CarrLane online...they carry alittle of everything

www.carrlane.com/Catalog/
 

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