Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

[fatkrakr]

So are the dampers worth the money (knowing that they may be used in low resistance) ?

I would only recommend 1 for the brake. I am not sure why anyone would dampen the throttle, but to each their own. If you do think you would like it on the throttle though Id suggest just getting one and before putting it on the brake pedal try it on the throttle first. Might just save yourself 80 bucks. I tried it and didn't think it improved the feel any.

 

[Fanapryde]

I would only recommend 1 for the brake. I am not sure why anyone would dampen the throttle, but to each their own. If you do think you would like it on the throttle though Id suggest just getting one and before putting it on the brake pedal try it on the throttle first. Might just save yourself 80 bucks. I tried it and didn't think it improved the feel any.

Good tip.
I was thinking the same way when I ordered only one damper.
Since you tried it on the throttle allready, I probably even don't have to try, thanks

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

edit: replied to wrong post

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

for those having troubles with the allen screws, i recommend not trying to turn the allen key to loosen it ALWAYS try turning the nut on the back first (provided they are secured the same way as my trusty old V1s )

Yes the acorn nuts are still there.

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

For brake adjustment and usage. V3 pedal need to be plugged into wheelbase. In properties setting set min and max limits for brake pedal travel and save. In tuning menu on wheel rim we now have a adjustment labeled "brk". The setting has a range 30 to 100 percent.

I disconnected from my PC and connected up to ps3. Now I can adjust brake pedal travel sensitivity from the tuning menu on the wheel rim.



Hope this helps.

 

[9ice_1]

Guys please correct me if i am wrong. According to the manual guide of the V3s, there are two options on how to connect the pedals 1. usb to pc 2. RJ12 to wheel base. I cant seem to get it to work with just the RJ12 connected to pedals and wheel base on iracing. Im on the latest beta drivers and firmware so where am i going wrong?

ps. im using the CSW V2 and 918 RSR rim

 

[fatkrakr]

I have had issues today with my pedals connected to the wheel base. Randomly disconnecting, spiking imputs and the throttle rumble motor running non stop no matter what it was set on. I reconnected them to the usb and still had the same issues. Finally got the pedals firmware reflashed and they started acting right again. When I updated the firmware for pedals yesterday it updated to 1.8, shipped with 1.7, now its at 1.12 I think. I didn't reconnect to the wheel base though because with new 223 driver brake force works in the driver.

 

[Blkout]

I finally got my CSP v3's installed today, connected directly to the wheel and using the beta 219 driver. I've had no issues so far. I have not done any firmware updates to the pedals, not sure what firmware they have currently since its not shown when connected directly to the wheel.

 

[fatkrakr]

I finally got my CSP v3's installed today, connected directly to the wheel and using the beta 219 driver. I've had no issues so far. I have not done any firmware updates to the pedals, not sure what firmware they have currently since its not shown when connected directly to the wheel.

I did the same as you and didn't have any issues either until I disconnected the pedals from the base the first time. Once I made the adjustments to the pedal faces and reconnected them did they start acting up.

 

[Blkout]

I did the same as you and didn't have any issues either until I disconnected the pedals from the base the first time. Once I made the adjustments to the pedal faces and reconnected them did they start acting up.

I don't intend to connect them directly to PC as long as I'm still using a Fanatec wheel. I don't know what firmware updates might offer for the pedals but I can't see upgrading them unless I need to. When I visit the Fanatec website, it still shows driver 219 beta being the correct driver for the pedals also. I'll likely leave everything alone for now since its working fine.

 

[Andrew_WOT]

Good tip.
I was thinking the same way when I ordered only one damper.
Since you tried it on the throttle allready, I probably even don't have to try, thanks

Stock springs are noodle weak, esp. throttle. Included stronger springs work better. I didn't find a better way to access them for replacement except following instruction from V1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=54iQktxDQOM. There are also two hex screw on clutch you need to take out. Not sure if there is an easier way.

Damper does not add much to throttle, I am still using it but at lowish setting (2), it just makes it smoother, a bit closer to real accelerator feel.
Brakes are different matter, this is where damper shines. Mine is making some clicking noise when compressed, almost like catching at something at the strongest setting, but it seems to be vanishing little by little with break in. I opened case with Fanatec anyway.
Uses Beta 223 drivers and firmware, with official firmware/driver 219 load cell adjustment in driver didn't work.
You can grab it from here
https://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/164/fanatec-driver-222-beta-released-windows10/p2

Rumble motors is a joke. Engineering waste.

Coming from load celled G27 (Ricmotech LC), wish I could make brakes stronger, currently using preload at the highest settings, still soft to my liking, but adjusting bit by bit. Wondering if there is anything that can be done there. There is no spring to replace with strongest, just PU foam inside the cylinder. Load cell sensitivity on strongest setting (10) too.

 

[paskowitz]

Just got mine in!

Screws:
One screw will not budge. Sprayed a little WD-40, but no luck. Fanatec definitely needs to notify the assembly team in China.

Noise:
The first thing you notice is how quiet the operations of the pedals are. My V2s were a clanking affair. When I was living in a dorm, you could hear them from another room with the door closed. The V3 are very quiet by comparison. This is a small, yet much appreciate improvement.

Construction:
Next, I think the overall construction is much better. The closed housing on the brake is probably a lot safer from dust and other particles. The wiring is thicker and improved. Fanatec used flat wires which are less prone to bending. V2 wiring was a bit flimsy and to be honest, I am surprised it has lasted this long. The I/O assembly is also put together better with clear labeling. The coating on the surfaces also appears to be different and a little more scratch resistant. I see no reason why this new version wouldn't be even more reliable than the V2s.

Pedal Feel:
I have not hooked it up my rig yet, but for my tastes the stock clutch spring is too weak. The slip point on the clutch is less pronounced than on my V2s. Luckily there is a stiffer spring included. Once I set that up I will report back. Throttle feels fine as is. The brake is different. It is a lot smoother than my V2 brake but not nearly as strong, even with the dial fully adjusted (I put in a super heavy spring on my V2). With that said, it feels a lot more like a real modern brake pedal (while my V2 felt like something out of an old racecar). In the end, the new level of smoothness will probably be better for precision than just relying on a large range of force to achieve modulation.

Other Stuff:
I really like the Darth Maul color scheme. Looks really nice. I would have like the material for the extra pedals to be a more stickier but I can just buy some grip tape and cut it. Finally, I do not understand the extra vibration motor on the gas. I don't know about you guys, but my gas pedals doesn't really vibrate in my car unless there is something wrong with it. I think this would have made a little more sense on the clutch. A little vibration when you don't quite time a shift would be more useful than letting me know "hey you are pressing the gas and the engine is making noises". Also, mounting is the same, THANK GOD!

I'll need a couple hours of seat time before I draw any definitive conclusions, but I don't think it is too preemptive to say if you have a set of V2s or any high end dedicated sim pedal, the V3s are not a necessary upgrade. If you have V1s or any, quite frankly, POS Thrustmaster or Logitech pedal set, the V3s are certainly worth your money.

 

[12thgear]

Stock springs are noodle weak, esp. throttle. Included stronger springs work better. I didn't find a better way to access them for replacement except following instruction from V1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=54iQktxDQOM. There are also two hex screw on clutch you need to take out. Not sure if there is an easier way.

Fanatec's own CSP V3 manual shows that it's a lot easier to swap the springs. Certainly easier than the using the V1 method: http://www.fanatec.com/download/CSP...net&utm_campaign=General+Links&a_aid=gtplanet

 

[paskowitz]

Fanatec's own CSP V3 manual shows that it's a lot easier to swap the springs. Certainly easier than the using the V1 method: http://www.fanatec.com/download/CSP...net&utm_campaign=General+Links&a_aid=gtplanet

Sigh, why didn't I RTFM? It doesn't really matter, one of the screws on my clutch won't detach. It turns, but does not come out of the hole. I can't grab with a lock because it is a rounded head. So I would have had to undo everything anyways. I got all the stiffer springs on, but I lost 45 minutes of my life and my sanity.

 

[9ice_1]

Someone please add their 2cents to my current dilemma with my V3 pedals please. I am currently on the 223 beta driver with firmware 112 on the pedals and firmware 110 on my V2 base with 918 RSR rim. Currently i can only get any sort of input plugged into usb, which is not ideal for my rig. Direct connection to the base and pedal is not working for me at all!
Thanks for any suggestion and i've also emailed support.

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

Someone please add their 2cents to my current dilemma with my V3 pedals please. I am currently on the 223 beta driver with firmware 112 on the pedals and firmware 110 on my V2 base with 918 RSR rim. Currently i can only get any sort of input plugged into usb, which is not ideal for my rig. Direct connection to the base and pedal is not working for me at all!
Thanks for any suggestion and i've also emailed support.

Double check the placement of pedal connection at wheel. It's easy to plug into the wrong port.

 

[Andrew_WOT]

Fanatec's own CSP V3 manual shows that it's a lot easier to swap the springs. Certainly easier than the using the V1 method: http://www.fanatec.com/download/CSP...net&utm_campaign=General+Links&a_aid=gtplanet

LOL, I googled for this first.
Read the calibration section but missed the assembly one. It worked in the end and I don't think it was actually that harder than new way. Thanks for pointing this out, btw!

 

[paskowitz]

If anyone is still having trouble getting a pedal screw out try taking off the nut on the other side of the pedal. All mine were easy to get off.

 

[Andrew_WOT]

And one damper out of the two I ordered is definitely leaking. Good old Fanatec, never changes.

 

[Nick Moxley]

Mugen Shock FTW!!!! 40$ for 2 One for you and one for your local racing buddy.


Sorry Andrew had to.


Also care to explain or show some detailed pictured of the leak and if you dis assemble it. Please snap some pics, Im very curious as to exactly what they've replaced that POS shock they used to have on the v2's

 

[Andrew_WOT]

Mugen Shock FTW!!!! 40$ for 2 One for you and one for your local racing buddy.


Sorry Andrew had to.


Also care to explain or show some detailed pictured of the leak and if you dis assemble it. Please snap some pics, Im very curious as to exactly what they've replaced that POS shock they used to have on the v2's

I don't think any off the shelf shock would work unless you seriously alter mounts.
Take a look at the new construction. And no, I wasn't taking it apart, would rather have it replaced.

 

[White Hawk]

So, I ordered a V2 Base, v3 Pedals, XBOX Universal Hub with Round 1 rim and a CSL Wheel Stand on the 20th of June, now they took all the money at the time, not a practice I like to see but anyway, on the order page it has Payment verified for the Pedals but all the rest is labeled Processing, is that normal? Also, the shipping is very expensive so I'm really hoping that a courier is not going to ask for any duty when they get to the door, is that the case or not?

Currently it still says Estimated shipping date: 31/08/2015 with no date given under the Actual shipping date.

Does this all sound OK?

 

[Nick Moxley]

So, I ordered a V2 Base, v3 Pedals, XBOX Universal Hub with Round 1 rim and a CSL Wheel Stand on the 20th of June, now they took all the money at the time, not a practice I like to see but anyway, on the order page it has Payment verified for the Pedals but all the rest is labeled Processing, is that normal? Also, the shipping is very expensive so I'm really hopping that a courier is not going to ask for any duty when they get to the door, is that the case or not?

Currently it still says Estimated shipping date: 31/08/2015 with no date given under the Actual shipping date.

Does this all sound OK?

the Sketchy order page is somewhat normal when ordering multiple pieces. Some being back ordered some being in stock, it seems the system has a problem labeling everything properly once the purchase has been processed, I still have some stuff on my order page that is listed as "processing" but ive obviously received it years ago.

Courier pending your location will for sure ding you on the base at minimum. All my rims cleared with no charges and same with a buddy who ordered at the exact same time.

I don't think any off the shelf shock would work unless you seriously alter mounts.
Take a look at the new construction. And no, I wasn't taking it apart, would rather have it replaced.

Agreed, you would need some custom mounts to use the V2 stuff. I would also advise not taking it apart, Most likely there's more to it than a standard "RC" shock. let Fana deal with it.

 

[White Hawk]

the Sketchy order page is somewhat normal when ordering multiple pieces. Some being back ordered some being in stock, it seems the system has a problem labeling everything properly once the purchase has been processed, I still have some stuff on my order page that is listed as "processing" but ive obviously received it years ago.

Courier pending your location will for sure ding you on the base at minimum. All my rims cleared with no charges and same with a buddy who ordered at the exact same time.

So how much where you charged on the import duty? It's so annoying, it's expensive enough shipping and somehow I have to be holding enough cash to give to the courier at the door without knowing what it could be.

 

[Nick Moxley]

So how much where you charged on the import duty? It's so annoying, it's expensive enough shipping and somehow I have to be holding enough cash to give to the courier at the door without knowing what it could be.

where are you located ?

if i remember right, I paid 70 for the base.

 

[White Hawk]

where are you located ?

if i remember right, I paid 70 for the base.

Wales, UK.

 

[Nick Moxley]

Wales, UK.

Im sure a fellow UK racer can inform you on the particulars, Im in Canada Eh.

 

[White Hawk]

Im sure a fellow UK racer can inform you on the particulars, Im in Canada Eh.

Not much different, both are full of trees, hills and mountains and both are insulted by they're neighbours on a regular basis. :-)

 

[paskowitz]

Ok, I hate to say it, but I prefer my CSP V2 brake (w/ 3rd party stiffer spring). The V3 brake is just too weak on initial input. This makes modulating 0-30% brake pressure more difficult. I appreciate the smoother action and higher resolution, which can definitely be noticed, but I don't think that makes up for the weak initial feel. In a way, the V3 feels almost more like the V1 brake (V3 as in V1, appears to just be a bolt pressing into PU foam). I also feel like the way my V2 brake built up pressure was also better (probably due to the hydraulic cylinder). IMO the CSPv3s should have come with 1 hydraulic for the brake. It is kinda puzzling why Fanatec in a way, took a step back in that regard from the V2. I will likely order a damper once I hear a little more from other but it seems to be a needed add on.

In spite of this criticism, I don't think the product as a whole is "bad" or "just ok", it is very good. The action on all pedals is much smoother, the build quality is improved, the added resolution has an immediate positive impact, it looks great and is still a decent value.

 

[fatkrakr]

Ok, I hate to say it, but I prefer my CSP V2 brake (w/ 3rd party stiffer spring). The V3 brake is just too weak on initial input. This makes modulating 0-30% brake pressure more difficult. I appreciate the smoother action and higher resolution, which can definitely be noticed, but I don't think that makes up for the weak initial feel. In a way, the V3 feels almost more like the V1 brake (V3 as in V1, appears to just be a bolt pressing into PU foam). I also feel like the way my V2 brake built up pressure was also better (probably due to the hydraulic cylinder). IMO the CSPv3s should have come with 1 hydraulic for the brake. It is kinda puzzling why Fanatec in a way, took a step back in that regard from the V2. I will likely order a damper once I hear a little more from other but it seems to be a needed add on.

In spite of this criticism, I don't think the product as a whole is "bad" or "just ok", it is very good. The action on all pedals is much smoother, the build quality is improved, the added resolution has an immediate positive impact, it looks great and is still a decent value.

The damper for the brake is a must have in my opinion. I ran mine without it for a bit while trying the damper on the throttle and once I installed it on the brake I was very pleased with the pedal feel. It firms the pedal up quite a bit. I am using about 3/4 of the dampers adjustment. I cant really see down there to read the numbers lol.