Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Pro

[LifeTaken]

It's a CSL DD but for PlayStation, and it (for a price) comes with pedals/wheel too.

Seems fine to me, though I can understand people wanting a standalone wheelbase if they already have Fanatec gear.

If there was a Standalone, I'd buy it instead of the regular CSL DD because I have an Xbox wheel already, but sadly that option's not available yet.

For me this was the best option, though I have no Fanatec ecosystem items currently. I am Thrustmaster right now. I wanted to get the CSL DD to play on PC with, but since I also love Gran Turismo and I'm a PS5 + PC user, this is the best deal I think... If I wanted to buy a CSL DD, and a wheel to go with it, I'd end up just around 700 bucks for that, and that wouldn't even be usable on the PS5, plus none of the Fanatec wheels have a button layout I like. This gives me a base, wheel, and extra pedals that I might upgrade with the load cell and clutch to replace my T3PA-Pros. I also have the pedal adapter if I want to keep using my Thrustmaster pedals anyway. Either way I will have some items to sell and recoup some money if I really want to

 

[GT_OREO]

Will you have to pay 20% import tax on top of the price once delivered to the uk

 

[snc]

Will you have to pay 20% import tax on top of the price once delivered to the uk

its from other forum, user bought to uk, this should cost 870 euro but because he is from uk he will pay vat later

 

[Sphinx]

Will you have to pay 20% import tax on top of the price once delivered to the uk

Yes.

 

[xxy98cn]

Goddamnit. Their manufacturing facility is in China but they don't provide a purchase link in China.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Just watched Super Gt’s review of the base and wheel. Perhaps the coolest thing that stuck out to me…. Was you could use the 4 joystick thingees to adjust BB, TCS, and fuel mapping separately…on the fly.

That’s Huge!!!

Hopefully this means these functions will become available on GTS with other fanatec rims that have rotary encoders.

What says ye’ @super_gt

 

[Famine]

Just watched Super Gt’s review of the base and wheel. Perhaps the coolest thing that stuck out to me…. Was you could use the 4 joystick thingees to adjust BB, TCS, and fuel mapping separately…on the fly.

That’s Huge!!!

Hopefully this means these functions will become available on GTS with other fanatec rims that have rotary encoders.

What says ye’ @super_gt

You'll be wanting to tag @F4H Super GT there.

 

[Yard_Sale]

You'll be wanting to tag @F4H Super GT there.

Thank you sir. I meant to tag @super_gt in that post…as he seems to be the point man for fanatec-related info 👍🏼

 

[CBH]

I find it a bit redundant when you have the HUD just in front of you and it serves more as a distraction.

I find the Hud is not really a distraction to me mate, even playing GTS in a dark room. The shifting light is not that bright to cause a distraction.

 

[Veinz]

My only concern is reliability. Any Fanatec owners want to give a bit of insight on this? Would be much appreciated.

My G29 is 4 years old and has been used a lot, but it’s still in mint condition. I know the Logitech wheel has been around for a long time, but I expect the same kind of reliability from Fanatec.

 

[Yard_Sale]

My only concern is reliability. Any Fanatec owners want to give a bit of insight on this? Would be much appreciated.

My G29 is 4 years old and has been used a lot, but it’s still in mint condition. I know the Logitech wheel has been around for a long time, but I expect the same kind of reliability from Fanatec.

My CSL elite wheel base has been very good. Almost 2 years of heavy use running the highest FFB settings a lot of the time

 

[CBH]

My only concern is reliability. Any Fanatec owners want to give a bit of insight on this? Would be much appreciated.

My G29 is 4 years old and has been used a lot, but it’s still in mint condition. I know the Logitech wheel has been around for a long time, but I expect the same kind of reliability from Fanatec.

I had my CSL elite wheel for 14 months now and I use it every day for a 3 to 4 hours with no issues, its a very good reliable wheel playing GT Sport and the FFB is very good for that game. I had a G29 playing GT Sport and the FFB was shocking until I got my Fanatec wheel.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Ordered one, honestly just so that I can use the GT Wheel Rim with my DD1 wheelbase and GT7.


Jerome

 

[Yard_Sale]

I want to get this. But I’m gonna press the hold button for the moment. Mainly because I want to see if Fanatec offers a “CSW” DD wheel base in the future. I think a base that offers 12-15nm wil be the sweet spot for me.

Plus I want to see if Fanatec is going to come out with a top tier set of pedals

 

[Digity]

I want to get this. But I’m gonna press the hold button for the moment. Mainly because I want to see if Fanatec offers a “CSW” DD wheel base in the future. I think a base that offers 12-15nm wil be the sweet spot for me.

Plus I want to see if Fanatec is going to come out with a top tier set of pedals

Same here, the 8nm doesn't seem like enough.

 

[HugoTwoWheels]

What do you need more torque for? Realism? That I can understand. But is there more? Do you actually perform better?

With the G29's 2 Nm I can clearly feel when I start losing grip, when the wheel becomes light. When I've caught the slide or corrected, it becomes heavy again. Understeer is felt by the wheel going light and choppy.
I've ordered the GT DD 5 Nm and I don't think I'll need more than 2-3 Nm for optimal performance in racing, but I like the option that I can "upgrade" later.
Also, anything lower than max torque in the G29 sucks for me. It becomes super hard to sense loss of grip, it takes too much focus to sense the small nuances in force and react, so I understand what "too little" torque is.

Maybe higher maximum torque increases the dynamic range a lot, so the grip doesn't feel as much on/off, but nuanced?

(I'm referencing to GT Sport.)

 

[dcarena]

One thing I noticed from Super GTs video was him commenting that the mounting options aren’t great for the Simlab base with the included Fanatec pedal set. It would be good to know how much of an issue that is I’d like both the DD package and was looking at the Simlab Evo.

 

[ANDRITSOULAS]

Many people are asking for the standalone Wheel Base of the GT DD Pro and we are very close to finalize the licensing agreement with Sony. Therefore I cannot officially announce anything but the plan is to sell this base with the Boost kit 180 for 599,95 and make it also available for the launch of GT7 in March.

I thought it will not cost more than 550€/$ the 8nm stand alone version.

600€ are a bit higher but i will buy it

 

[Goonie75]

One thing I noticed from Super GTs video was him commenting that the mounting options aren’t great for the Simlab base with the included Fanatec pedal set. It would be good to know how much of an issue that is I’d like both the DD package and was looking at the Simlab Evo.

The issue is mounting to profile, the front pedal mounts require bolts to screw into them from below which is an issue on the P1 as it uses profile which requires bolts to screw down into t-nuts, you would have to use some corner brackets on the side of the profile.

If the rig has a metal pedal plate with holes (or you can drill holes) you would be fine.

 

[snc]

possitive reviews

 

[Yard_Sale]

What do you need more torque for? Realism? That I can understand. But is there more? Do you actually perform better?

With the G29's 2 Nm I can clearly feel when I start losing grip, when the wheel becomes light. When I've caught the slide or corrected, it becomes heavy again. Understeer is felt by the wheel going light and choppy.
I've ordered the GT DD 5 Nm and I don't think I'll need more than 2-3 Nm for optimal performance in racing, but I like the option that I can "upgrade" later.
Also, anything lower than max torque in the G29 sucks for me. It becomes super hard to sense loss of grip, it takes too much focus to sense the small nuances in force and react, so I understand what "too little" torque is.

Maybe higher maximum torque increases the dynamic range a lot, so the grip doesn't feel as much on/off, but nuanced?

(I'm referencing to GT Sport.)

Biggest thing(s) for me is exactly what you highlighted. Realism is first and foremost….and I’m willing to sacrifice in-game performance, in favor of realism (the same reason I use cockpit view exclusively in GTS).

Also like you stated, the nuances between grip levels will be more noticeable with a wider range of torque curves (of course this is all dependent on the level of the depth said title has given to their FFB programming).

Third, I’d rather buy more than I need and “grow into” a wheelbase; thean left wanting more after 6 months. I’m a “buy once, cry once” type of guy.

If Fanatec doesn’t elude to a CSW-level DD by June of next year, I’ll probably just splurge on a DD1.

 

[HugoTwoWheels]

Biggest thing(s) for me is exactly what you highlighted. Realism is first and foremost….and I’m willing to sacrifice in-game performance, in favor of realism (the same reason I use cockpit view exclusively in GTS).

Also like you stated, the nuances between grip levels will be more noticeable with a wider range of torque curves (of course this is all dependent on the level of the depth said title has given to their FFB programming).

Third, I’d rather buy more than I need and “grow into” a wheelbase; thean left wanting more after 6 months. I’m a “buy once, cry once” type of guy.

If Fanatec doesn’t elude to a CSW-level DD by June of next year, I’ll probably just splurge on a DD1.

Thanks, I understand fully.

I appreciate realism, but if I want full realism I hop on my motorcycle and live on the edge with a simple twist of the throttle. In GT Sport, I mostly want to win, no matter what. I'd drive with a joystick if that made me faster. We'll see if GT DD will push me from high A to A+, coming from a G29. If DD1 would help even more, I'd order it immediately.

 

[snc]

Thanks, I understand fully.

I appreciate realism, but if I want full realism I hop on my motorcycle and live on the edge with a simple twist of the throttle. In GT Sport, I mostly want to win, no matter what. I'd drive with a joystick if that made me faster. We'll see if GT DD will push me from high A to A+, coming from a G29. If DD1 would help even more, I'd order it immediately.

it won't, if you have skills you can be top split driver on pad, on g29 or on dd1, gt sport is quite universal in this aspect

 

[Jump_Ace]

Thanks, I understand fully.

I appreciate realism, but if I want full realism I hop on my motorcycle and live on the edge with a simple twist of the throttle. In GT Sport, I mostly want to win, no matter what. I'd drive with a joystick if that made me faster. We'll see if GT DD will push me from high A to A+, coming from a G29. If DD1 would help even more, I'd order it immediately.

Just thinking out loud, but the reason you'd buy a DD1 or DD2 wheel now with this out is the added strength. Me personally, I don't like to have the wheel too strong because it slows my lap times. I have it somewhere in the middle. I read once that sim racers tend to have the wheels too strong because they can't compare it to real life where the (power) steering is a little weaker than you may think. I think there's some truth to that, so I balance the strength up just high enough were I almost lose time on the track.

I guess also, if you ran this with the power pack at full speed all the time, you could wear it out faster(?). Then again, if you get the power pack for it and don't run it quite at max, it should last forever.

I think Fanatec's release of this wheel is good and bad. They basically gave us little/no reason to buy their high end DD wheels (unless you need that full strength). But this DD wheel with the power pack is likely what the hugely vast majority wants and hits a decent price point with the pedals.


Jerome

 

[Famine]

I think a base that offers 12-15nm wil be the sweet spot for me.

That's a very small wheel indeed.

 

[HugoTwoWheels]

@Jump_Ace

Sunds reasonable. However, doesn't the force in the wheel compensate for lack of G forces in a real vehicle as well? So, except for feeling the self-aligning torque, you feel an emulation of the G forces as well?
Reacting to what you feel is a lot quicker than reacting to what you see, which is the whole idea of FFB for someone who's primarily competitive. I drive like **** and spin out all the time without good FFB, especially with MR cars going into corners.

I'll do the same as you when I get my DD wheel, increase the max torque until I start performing worse.

 

[Jump_Ace]

@Jump_Ace

Sunds reasonable. However, doesn't the force in the wheel compensate for lack of G forces in a real vehicle as well? So, except for feeling the self-aligning torque, you feel an emulation of the G forces as well?
Reacting to what you feel is a lot quicker than reacting to what you see, which is the whole idea of FFB for someone who's primarily competitive. I drive like **** and spin out all the time without good FFB, especially with MR cars going into corners.

I'll do the same as you when I get my DD wheel, increase the max torque until I start performing worse.

Oh yea, the reverse is also true. If you get little to no FFB you don't feel how the car is reacting and can spin out/slide/miss apexes, etc.


Jerome

 

[Yard_Sale]

That's a very small wheel indeed.

I got Irish potato picking hands. EVERYTHING feels massive to me.








…….it’s great for the self esteem 😎

 

[Yard_Sale]

Thanks, I understand fully.

I appreciate realism, but if I want full realism I hop on my motorcycle and live on the edge with a simple twist of the throttle. In GT Sport, I mostly want to win, no matter what. I'd drive with a joystick if that made me faster. We'll see if GT DD will push me from high A to A+, coming from a G29. If DD1 would help even more, I'd order it immediately.

Right there with you buddy. My real life thrills come from dirt bikes, surfing and driving my fire engine lights and sirens.

My sim racing is my least serious hobby.

On another note, I have read that guys who use motion rigs or VR tend to use lighter FFB settings as they don’t need full strength FFB to simulate the forces of driving a race car. As someone who messes around with GTS’s rudimentary VR capabilities… I can attest to that.

But still, I would rather get a base that’ll give me a tad more than what I need (within reason of course), rather than something I’d be settling for.

I remember when I got my first wheel, my CSL ELITE. I had to dial it back SO MUCH, because I wasn’t used to having my arms jerked like that. Within a month I was running it full power. I have since dialed it back a bit…mainly because running it at full strength was dampening out the little details too much

 

[ionstriker]

I just ordered mine. Went with the standard package. Honestly speaking, I'm quite quick with the g29, few hundreds of secs behind top players. I have never tried any of the DD wheels.
I think only area I can improve now would be in consistency and improving tyre management. I have noticed that no matter how smooth I drive, my tyre management isn't as good as the top guys. Based on all the reviews I think that's one area that a DD wheel will help.
Will load cells pedals help in this regard? Let's say you're already good at the game, will upgrading to pedals with load cells improve anything?