Fanatec Podium Direct Drive Wheel Bases Thread

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I see nothing confusing,here are the three wheels:

The Podium Racing wheel(for PS4) and the Podium wheel base DD1(for PC and Xbox) has the same electric motor but different electronics because there must be a security chip in it to make it PS4 compatible.
So there are 3 then. I thought there were 2.
 
I ordered the Fanatec DD2 wheelbase including the 5 year warranty at launch, 1 week ago. I just received a 299,99 euro refund from Fanatec, but I have no idea why. Could it be that the 5 year warranty has been cancelled or perhaps included for free?

Insert: I just noticed the optional 5 year warranty has been removed from the website, so I guess my question is answered. But why did they do that???
 
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I ordered the Fanatec DD2 wheelbase including the 5 year warranty at launch, 1 week ago. I just received a 299,99 euro refund from Fanatec, but I have no idea why. Could it be that the 5 year warranty has been cancelled or perhaps included for free?

Insert: I just noticed the optional 5 year warranty has been removed from the website, so I guess my question is answered. But why did they do that???
Interesting.
 
I ordered the Fanatec DD2 wheelbase including the 5 year warranty at launch, 1 week ago. I just received a 299,99 euro refund from Fanatec, but I have no idea why. Could it be that the 5 year warranty has been cancelled or perhaps included for free?

Insert: I just noticed the optional 5 year warranty has been removed from the website, so I guess my question is answered. But why did they do that???
So, you are going to be the first member of the GTP family to give us, GTP relatives, a proper review.
 
I ordered the Fanatec DD2 wheelbase including the 5 year warranty at launch, 1 week ago. I just received a 299,99 euro refund from Fanatec, but I have no idea why. Could it be that the 5 year warranty has been cancelled or perhaps included for free?

Insert: I just noticed the optional 5 year warranty has been removed from the website, so I guess my question is answered. But why did they do that???

It is not added for free...it is removed, check the product info :
  • Standard 3 year warranty.
So, they decided that optional 5 years warranty is not good idea at least at this price I believe.... it still stays in the info:
  • Optional extension for 5 year warranty
 
It is not added for free...it is removed, check the product info :
  • Standard 3 year warranty.
So, they decided that optional 5 years warranty is not good idea at least at this price I believe.... it still stays in the info:
  • Optional extension for 5 year warranty

The 5 year warranty can't be added as an option any longer. Period. So they need to fix the description. The question is WHY did they remove it? Was it too expensive? Was it illegal? (some countries could have laws preventing companies taking payment for these "extended" warranties). I'd like to hear an official answer from Fanatec.
 
The 5 year warranty can't be added as an option any longer. Period. So they need to fix the description. The question is WHY did they remove it? Was it too expensive? Was it illegal? (some countries could have laws preventing companies taking payment for these "extended" warranties). I'd like to hear an official answer from Fanatec.
You are right to ask for explanation - especialy you paid this 5 years warranty...
 
The 5 year warranty can't be added as an option any longer. Period. So they need to fix the description. The question is WHY did they remove it? Was it too expensive? Was it illegal? (some countries could have laws preventing companies taking payment for these "extended" warranties). I'd like to hear an official answer from Fanatec.

Wasnt standards warranty 2 years instead of 3 years? Perhaps they are considering 6-10 years extension. I guess this warranty is mainly going to be sold for proffesional (professional racingteams) use, what Fanatec is also aiming for. I remember that he said in the video that the extra i/o ports at the back were a requirement asked by professional users. In that aspect they are very attractive option then an OSW or Bodnar with additional customer support and compact enclosure.

On another note, I wish I bought some Endor shares it went up by 25% around the Podium series livestream.
 
One thing about the Fanatec Podium wheels. They gave me a reason to look at what the other Direct Drive wheels are all about. I get the impression that the DD2 is aimed at the Bodnar Simsteering2 (54) wheel. Fanatec's unit is down by 2nm of torque, 26nm for the Bodnar and 24nm for the Fanatec so it's horse-shoes close. Both are plug and play according to their respective websites. And from the looks of things, Fanatec is aiming at being used by professional racing teams, while the Bodnar already claims to be doing just that.

When compared to the Bodnar, the Podium DD2 is a bargain and then some. For the price of any Bodnar wheel base, you can get a "ready to go" Fanatec setup that consists of...
- Podium DD2
- Forza Uni-Hub
- Clubsport Pedals Inverted
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Damper Kit
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Brake Performance Kit
- Clubsport Shifter 1.5SQ
- ClubSport Shifter Table Clamp
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- Clubsport Handbrake 1.5
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- ClubSport Handbrake Clamp Adapter

And you can grab a Clubsport Table clamp, just to find out the hard way that it won't work with the podium base. :lol:

After getting all that, you still have at most $1,656.28USD left ( even with the useless table clamp).

That's enough to get a Aluminum Extrusion rig, a Sparco R100 seat, and a dog-house (if you are married).

Now I see why there's so much interest in the DD2. It's the Ollie's priced Direct Drive wheel!
 
One thing about the Fanatec Podium wheels. They gave me a reason to look at what the other Direct Drive wheels are all about. I get the impression that the DD2 is aimed at the Bodnar Simsteering2 (54) wheel. Fanatec's unit is down by 2nm of torque, 26nm for the Bodnar and 24nm for the Fanatec so it's horse-shoes close. Both are plug and play according to their respective websites. And from the looks of things, Fanatec is aiming at being used by professional racing teams, while the Bodnar already claims to be doing just that.

When compared to the Bodnar, the Podium DD2 is a bargain and then some. For the price of any Bodnar wheel base, you can get a "ready to go" Fanatec setup that consists of...
- Podium DD2
- Forza Uni-Hub
- Clubsport Pedals Inverted
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Damper Kit
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Brake Performance Kit
- Clubsport Shifter 1.5SQ
- ClubSport Shifter Table Clamp
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- Clubsport Handbrake 1.5
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- ClubSport Handbrake Clamp Adapter

And you can grab a Clubsport Table clamp, just to find out the hard way that it won't work with the podium base. :lol:

After getting all that, you still have at most $1,656.28USD left ( even with the useless table clamp).

That's enough to get a Aluminum Extrusion rig, a Sparco R100 seat, and a dog-house (if you are married).

Now I see why there's so much interest in the DD2. It's the Ollie's priced Direct Drive wheel!

I would take the SimSteering 2 with the 2 million encoder capable of going to 16 million, perfection has a name and it’s Leo Bodnar SimSteering 2
 
SimSteering.jpg


If this is your idea of perfection I feel sorry for you. (4,251.86 US dollars)
 
SimSteering.jpg


If this is your idea of perfection I feel sorry for you. (4,251.86 US dollars)

It sure is, but as you can see that’s version one, version 2 is still more awesome , smoother and better road feel, exactly what you want for sim racing.

SimSteering.jpg


If this is your idea of perfection I feel sorry for you. (4,251.86 US dollars)

Just imagine the SimSteering 2, Heusinkveld Sim Pedals Ultimate and Heusinkveld shifter and the sim labs P1 cockpit, the ultimate dream, you would be set for life since you will die before your gear
 
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One thing about the Fanatec Podium wheels. They gave me a reason to look at what the other Direct Drive wheels are all about. I get the impression that the DD2 is aimed at the Bodnar Simsteering2 (54) wheel. Fanatec's unit is down by 2nm of torque, 26nm for the Bodnar and 24nm for the Fanatec so it's horse-shoes close. Both are plug and play according to their respective websites. And from the looks of things, Fanatec is aiming at being used by professional racing teams, while the Bodnar already claims to be doing just that.

When compared to the Bodnar, the Podium DD2 is a bargain and then some. For the price of any Bodnar wheel base, you can get a "ready to go" Fanatec setup that consists of...
- Podium DD2
- Forza Uni-Hub
- Clubsport Pedals Inverted
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Damper Kit
- ClubSport Pedals V3 Brake Performance Kit
- Clubsport Shifter 1.5SQ
- ClubSport Shifter Table Clamp
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- Clubsport Handbrake 1.5
- ClubSport USB Adapter
- ClubSport Handbrake Clamp Adapter

And you can grab a Clubsport Table clamp, just to find out the hard way that it won't work with the podium base. :lol:

After getting all that, you still have at most $1,656.28USD left ( even with the useless table clamp).

That's enough to get a Aluminum Extrusion rig, a Sparco R100 seat, and a dog-house (if you are married).

Now I see why there's so much interest in the DD2. It's the Ollie's priced Direct Drive wheel!
They aren’t claiming to be used by real teams, they just are.

When they say plug and play it truly means it, all those adjustments other wheels give you aren’t needed because it is already setup out of the box to feel realistic and perfectly tuned with feedback from all the pro teams that use it. Now personally I know who I trust when it comes to comparing sim racers who’ve never driven the real cars over real drivers who do drive them day in day out having a say in how it should feel.

SimSteering.jpg


If this is your idea of perfection I feel sorry for you. (4,251.86 US dollars)
Both of you have missed the fact that includes 20% VAT because it’s a British company and it specifically says it will be removed if sold outside of Europe. So it’s actually $3400 though the £ being worth more than the € and $ does push the price up for you. Something costing more than you want to spend doesn’t really factor into whether it’s the best wheel, nor should the looks, we are talking form other function not whether it looks pretty which is subjective anyway!

One thing to note is the Kollmorgen motor alone costs nearly as much the whole Podium base.

Back on point though IF the Fanatec wheel can match the performance AND reliability/durability of the Bodnar then obviously it is a bargain but that remains to be seen. It’s not entirely outside the realms of possibility given Bodnar aren’t researching how to build DD wheels more cheaply as their market isn’t cost sensitive.
 
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Some of you guys are getting too much caught up on the spec sheets of the Bodnar and Fanatec wheels. If specs were the be-all and end-all of everything, everyone would be using AMD graphics cards and processors. I think the opening theme song for the movie "The Cannonball Run" sums it ups nicely; It's not what you got, it's how you use it.
 
Maybe a stupid question but why is Bodnar so expensive. If this new DD2 wheel has the same features, is plug & play, is going to be used by professionals and in the automotive sector, why is is so much cheaper than the Bodnar DD base?
 
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Maybe a stupid question but why is Bodnar so expensive. If this new DD2 wheel has the same features, is plug & play, is going to be use by professionals and in the automotive sector, why is is so much cheaper than the Bodnar DD base?
With my full respect to Leo Bodnar - for the DD wheel I think this is marketing decision. To be the most expensive and Simracers will point it like the best. I can`t remember a review or article where the price was explained and justified as the right price for this hardware...;)
 
Maybe a stupid question but why is Bodnar so expensive. If this new DD2 wheel has the same features, is plug & play, is going to be use by professionals and in the automotive sector, why is is so much cheaper than the Bodnar DD base?

No one knows but them, but it’s probably the cost of the motor along for the fact that their systems are not ment for us the sim racers, according to their product page:
Typical applications of the steering system include:
- Race car training simulators*
- Road car and HGV training
- Public display simulators (such as static F1 show cars etc)
- Off-road and military vehicle training

*Used by many teams participating in race series including F1, GP2, F3, LMP1, LMP2, GT and WTCC.

To the users they aim for $4k USD is nothing, hell most of us still moan and cry about the price of the G29, so we see the price of a Bodnar and feel like fainting whether we are buying or not.
 
Just imagine the SimSteering 2, Heusinkveld Sim Pedals Ultimate and Heusinkveld shifter and the sim labs P1 cockpit, the ultimate dream, you would be set for life since you will die before your gear

Well, it can be ultimate dream - Your ultimate dream!;) We live in great era of great products popping out every day...and maybe everyone have his personal ultimate dream with different products.
 
Maybe a stupid question but why is Bodnar so expensive. If this new DD2 wheel has the same features, is plug & play, is going to be use by professionals and in the automotive sector, why is is so much cheaper than the Bodnar DD base?

With all the respect for Fanatec, it is not a given that all their spec will cop with Bodnar or even OSW DD. And it is not for granted that PRO simracers will use it.
 
Let`s return to the topic, btw... I think that Fanatec did very clever move to announce the price of the bigger base and to wait for the smaller one. They want to fine tune it and adapt it a bit after reading our comments and reactions;) The price of the smaller base is maybe more important, because it justifies its own cost , but also justifies the cost of the bigger base,too.

With all the respect for Fanatec, it is not a given that all their spec will cop with Bodnar or even OSW DD. And it is not for granted that PRO simracers will use it.
True! But they have the right to target this!;)
 
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Let`s return to the topic, btw... I think that Fanatec did very clever move to announce the price of the bigger base and to wait for the smaller one. They want to fine tune it and adapt it a bit after reading our comments and reactions;) The proce of the smaller base is maybe more important, because it

Yeah the price point is good, it’s basically entry level DD pricing, as long as they work as intended on the sims and close in performance to the competition they will sell, hopefully they won’t have so many problems like they did for the CSW V2.
 
Of course, but we have all the right to have some doubt. I, for example, have not all the hype that I see here.
Well, as the topic is for the Podium line - it is normal to have the hype. I can`t see why to do not be Hyped. The product looks insanely good.Also Fanatec never had base launch fail, at least I can`t remember one. Ofcourse the world of Simracing products have a lot of choice and as I said already - it will be battle of Rivals;)
 
Well, as the topic is for the Podium line - it is normal to have the hype. I can`t see why to do not be Hyped. The product looks insanely good.Also Fanatec never had base launch fail, at least I can`t remember one. Ofcourse the world of Simracing products have a lot of choice and as I said already - it will be battle of Rivals;)

Looks insanely good based on what? That is subjective at the moment.

It has some problem with old wheelbases.

The good part is that we will have more choices now, with also Fanatec in the mix.

Not related to you, but anyone know if the the PSU will be internal or external? Because there are some contrast in one way and the other.
 
Looks insanely good based on what? That is subjective at the moment.

It has some problem with old wheelbases.

The good part is that we will have more choices now, with also Fanatec in the mix.

Not related to you, but anyone know if the the PSU will be internal or external? Because there are some contrast in one way and the other.
C`mon the design is absolute beauty...you really don`t like it? For me looks great!

For the PSU I think that the only option is to be external...in that body I think there is no place for PSU left and also will make extra heat inside. Also the PSU plug shows that will be external. If it was inside the power plug will be common electrical simple plug.
 
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