Fanatec Podium Direct Drive Wheel Bases Thread

[ANDRITSOULAS]

1500 euros for the Podium PS4 wheel is way over my budget. That been said the price is very very fair.
In reallity you pay 1500$ for:
DD1=1000$
ClubSport Steering Wheel F1® 2018 (in blue)=350$
Podium Advanced Paddles Module=180$
DD2 style carbon plates on the base (instead of the standard DD1 plates)=?
Ps4 comptibility = 50$ - 100$ (according to the price difference between csl and csl ps4 base) my speculation but you know what i mean.
I mean the whole set price could be 1650$ - 1700$.

I think my csl elite ps4 set will hold until the, ?speculated? Clubsport DD wheel with a potential ps4 compatibility, or maybe a stand alone ps4 DD1 wheelbase. . . . .

 

[Dev Nibor]

Hmm. Can you just make a new pre order of dd base and use the 350e voucher on that? Or use the voucher and cancel pre order after that .

hehe interesting loophole, someone should try this

 

[Sprocket]

1500 is a lot for a console wheel which has limited games to make use of it. The price itself isnt the bigest concern though. What is gonna happen when the PS5 is out in just a year or two? Are both parties going to do the right thing or make the gamers the losers again?

QUOTE="ANDRITSOULAS, post: 12567066, member: 292419"]Am i the only guy in here that hates these blue grips ?

All that blue makes it look like a toy,[/QUOTE]

I already adressed this in my reply to Fanatec. But the short summary is, that the Playstation 5 and GT7 is just around the corner and the new Podium wheel is only licensed for PS4. Which currently means a lifespan of maybe 2 years at best, before your 1500 euro wheelbase becomes a Podium DD1 for 50% higher price.

 

[ojgt]

I already adressed this in my reply to Fanatec. But the short summary is, that the Playstation 5 and GT7 is just around the corner and the new Podium wheel is only licensed for PS4. Which currently means a lifespan of maybe 2 years at best, before your 1500 euro wheelbase becomes a Podium DD1 for 50% higher price.

How do you get the 50% higher price? It's the same price for the base, you just have to buy a 500€ F1 rim with advanced paddle module with it.

 

[Sprocket]

And why do all the Fanatec nay-sayers continue to champion the "superior reliability" of the OSW system, when OSW owners cries out for help to solve hardware and software faults on Facebook forums almost every single day of the week?

How do you get the 50% higher price? It's the same price for the base, you just have to buy a 500€ F1 rim with advanced paddle module with it.

Because there's currently no way to buy the base without said 500 euro wheel. Which might be of no interest to the person you try to sell your wheelbase to, when the PS5 version is launched...

 

[kikie]

And why do all the Fanatec nay-sayers continue to champion the "superior reliability" of the OSW system, when OSW owners cries out for help to solve hardware and software faults on Facebook forums almost every single day of the week?

I didn't know that. But then again, I don't have facebook. Too bad I can't read these "cries".

 

[ojgt]

Because there's currently no way to buy the base without said 500 euro wheel. Which might be of no interest to the person you try to sell your wheelbase to, when the PS5 version is launched...

Sure. But Fanatec wheels etc accessories keep their value pretty well and you can always sell the wheel to someone else. If you don't need it just sell it brand new. So no way you would end up with 50% more expensive dd1 unless you throw the F1 wheel to trash.

 

[DonZmeuheu]

Oh yes. I Just pre ordered it. It looks so great...I love the blue finish a lot better than yellow. Cant wait till it will be released

 

[Deano-gt]

Most likely GT7 will be well beyond the PS5 release. GT Sport was released 4 years after PS4 came out in 2013. I would say there is a high chance a current DD wheel will be PS5 compatible. ie Thrustmaster T500 (2010) came out after PS3 (2006) release and worked with the PS4.

 

[Sprocket]

Most likely GT7 will be well beyond the PS5 release. GT Sport was released 4 years after PS4 came out in 2013. I would say there is a high chance a current DD wheel will be PS5 compatible. ie Thrustmaster T500 (2010) came out after PS3 (2006) release and worked with the PS4.

My concern with this is, that we would see a huge backlog of accessories dating back to PS2/PS3, that would hurt sales of brand new equipment, if Sony continues to allow backwards compatability. Sony, Thrustmaster, Logitech etc. wants to sell new stuff, so at some point they will stop to be friendly to people holding on to old accessories like steeringwheels, gamepads, headphones and so on.

 

[andrewhake]

Ok but.....



Maybe I'm missing something but there is something not quite right. Maybe new decisions about the 0.07% issues are made by Fanatec that we don't know about (solution maybe) but as long as we are left in the dark, I get this feeling that we are fooled and lied to.

Sorry indeed.

You aren't being left in the dark at all? Fanatec has zero obligation to tell you every detail about the ins and outs of their production process. Why does every single thing have to lead to wild speculation on this forum? It is nauseating.

Am i the only guy in here that hates these blue grips ?

I really REALLY don't like them haha. I dislike them so much I may just wait until the PS4 Podium base is available with a different wheel or with no wheel. I don't think I can bring myself to support something that looks like that haha.

 

[PzR Slim]

So amateur hour at Fanatec continues. Fanatec have made the great decision to let us spend the voucher we can choose instead of the F1 2019 Rim on any products apart form bundles and we can spend it now. This is brilliant and a really great gesture. But they go and let themselves down again. We each got an email to tell us this fantastic news and at the bottom of the email is a unique voucher code we can use to buy what we want to the value of the F1 2019 rim. Only problem is, it's not a unique code! Looks like they have inadvertently given us all the exact same generic code that doesn't work!

You couldn't make it up. They are stumbling from one mistake to the next on a daily basis at the moment. I can't believe it fills most with a great deal of confidence.

 

[Corsa]

So amateur hour at Fanatec continues. Fanatec have made the great decision to let us spend the voucher we can choose instead of the F1 2019 Rim on any products apart form bundles and we can spend it now. This is brilliant and a really great gesture. But they go and let themselves down again. We each got an email to tell us this fantastic news and at the bottom of the email is a unique voucher code we can use to buy what we want to the value of the F1 2019 rim. Only problem is, it's not a unique code! Looks like they have inadvertently given us all the exact same generic code that doesn't work!

You couldn't make it up. They are stumbling from one mistake to the next on a daily basis at the moment. I can't believe it fills most with a great deal of confidence.

I agree, although I can't stand the words "amateur hour" that I keep reading across 5 different websites.

Once people start getting their DD's all this will be forgotten about, Fanatec make fantastic products the long term big picture this all will be just a bump in the road. Growing pains, man.

 

[Melbourne Park]

My Porsche Clubsport wheel operates on the PS4 Elite PS4 version wheelbase ... but GT Sport game/sim, doesn't recognise the Fanatec Clubsport Porsche RSR wheel. So I cannot program any of its buttons. I can use the wheel and various things work ... but nothing is programmable. I cannot sound a horn. I cannot flash my lights. I really count adjust traction control and front rear brake balance together, because the game only uses on wand to operate various controls, such as TC, fuel mix, brake balance, lap times etc. I cannot switch a function to another wand or to some of the useless buttons on the wheel.

The F1 wheel might look well made, but what is the point of having a compatible wheelbase for the PS4, when the wheels themselves are not recognised by the most popular game / sim that the PS4 has ie Gran Tursismo Sport? My advise is don't waste your money until you know that the game or sim you will operate on the PS4 fully supports the product ie the wheel you want to use.

 

[andrewhake]

So amateur hour at Fanatec continues. Fanatec have made the great decision to let us spend the voucher we can choose instead of the F1 2019 Rim on any products apart form bundles and we can spend it now. This is brilliant and a really great gesture. But they go and let themselves down again. We each got an email to tell us this fantastic news and at the bottom of the email is a unique voucher code we can use to buy what we want to the value of the F1 2019 rim. Only problem is, it's not a unique code! Looks like they have inadvertently given us all the exact same generic code that doesn't work!

You couldn't make it up. They are stumbling from one mistake to the next on a daily basis at the moment. I can't believe it fills most with a great deal of confidence.

I'm sure they really appreciate you being extremely rude in every one of your posts, especially when they are trying to do something nice..

It's more likely that the codes aren't activated yet. When they did the codes for the QR with the McLaren GT3 rim they weren't activated until the wheel was fully released. Maybe the same in this scenario. If I was them I would just cancel your order and blacklist you as a customer though.

 

[kikie]

You aren't being left in the dark at all? Fanatec has zero obligation to tell you every detail about the ins and outs of their production process. Why does every single thing have to lead to wild speculation on this forum? It is nauseating.



I really REALLY don't like them haha. I dislike them so much I may just wait until the PS4 Podium base is available with a different wheel or with no wheel. I don't think I can bring myself to support something that looks like that haha.

Did you even read my post. It is no speculation on my part. Fanatec contradicted himself. First, he said April and after that it is January December. Did Fanatec suddenly find a magical solution to the electronics problem?
If you call that speculation, I suggest you refrein yourself from commenting and you won't feel sick. Okay? I feel sick reading comments like yours.

 

[ojgt]

One thing to think about the Podium racing wheel is that most likely the extra switches etc of the wheel won't work on PS4. PS4 seems to be limited to the same amount of buttons that the DualShock controller has so propably won't get much joy out of the rotary switches etc.

 

[Krassi]

One thing to think about the Podium racing wheel is that most likely the extra switches etc of the wheel won't work on PS4. PS4 seems to be limited to the same amount of buttons that the DualShock controller has so propably won't get much joy out of the rotary switches etc.

In general you are right, just sometimes we saw some special functions allowed like the DFGT red rotary knob on PS3 and T-GT rotary encoders in GT Sport. So, in general extra features are possible - here Fanatec must push hard...but we dont know what makes extra features to be possible, who knows Sony may ask for big extra money to aprove that...

 

[kikie]

I'm going to wait for reviews. Even though the contradictions of Fanatec and him changing his mind faster than the wind I'm still very much interested in the DD1.


It is possible I keep using my G27 though because I want this as well.

https://www.simware.shop/en/hardwar...sticks/1482/pro-flight-trainer-puma-pas?c=952

@Jordan I wasn't able to insert a link. GTP froze completely when I wanted to insert the link above. I had to close GTP and open it again losing a big part of my previously written post.

 

[PzR Slim]

I'm sure they really appreciate you being extremely rude in every one of your posts, especially when they are trying to do something nice..

It's more likely that the codes aren't activated yet. When they did the codes for the QR with the McLaren GT3 rim they weren't activated until the wheel was fully released. Maybe the same in this scenario. If I was them I would just cancel your order and blacklist you as a customer though.

Apart from the bit where I said 'great decision', 'brilliant and a really great gesture' and 'fantastic news', or the huge numbers of times I have made gushing posts about Fanatec and their products across all sorts of forums, right. I'm a consumer and they have a lot of my money. I've got every right to express my opinions anyway I like as long as it stays within the TOS.

 

[somebodysb2]

Is there ever going to be a 25Nm Peak/18Nm Holding DD2-derived variant for PS4 or are us GT Sport players forever going to be stuck with the inferior 20Nm Peak/15Nm Holding DD1-derived version?

This is some seriously inane decision making from Thomas here to deliberately force PS4 players to drive with the worse motor.

@Fanatec... and @DomB_Fanatec, what were the motivations behind this move? what happened to modularity and the interchangeable universal hubs? I have a DD2 on order and I've bought all of your 'high end' wheels beginning with CSR Elite. This move to segregate PS4 players into the worse motor is a massive slap to the face.

 

[ANDRITSOULAS]

Is there ever going to be a 25Nm Peak/18Nm Holding DD2-derived variant for PS4 or are us GT Sport players forever going to be stuck with the inferior 20Nm Peak/15Nm Holding DD1-derived version?

This is some seriously inane decision making from Thomas here to deliberately force PS4 players to drive with the worse motor.

@Fanatec... and @DomB_Fanatec, what were the motivations behind this move? what happened to modularity and the interchangeable universal hubs? I have a DD2 on order and I've bought all of your 'high end' wheels beginning with CSR Elite. This move to segregate PS4 players into the worse motor is a massive slap to the face.

"worse motor" ??????????

 

[PzR Slim]

Fanatec website is down. Hopefully this means they are updating the store so our voucher codes work......unless this means they have gone bust and we have lost all of our money

 

[somebodysb2]

"worse motor" ??????????

DD2: 25Nm Peak/18Nm Holding (Better motor)
DD1: 20Nm Peak/15Nm Holding (Worse motor)

The PS4 Podium wheel uses the worse motor.

 

[PzR Slim]

DD2: 25Nm Peak/18Nm Holding (Better motor)
DD1: 20Nm Peak/15Nm Holding (Worse motor)

The PS4 Podium wheel uses the worse motor.

Not as powerful does not mean worse, no?

 

[somebodysb2]

Not as powerful does not mean worse, no?

There is still a power discrepancy between the two. If Xbox players can use the more powerful motor, then how come PS4 players can't?

 

[PzR Slim]

There is still a power discrepancy between the two. If Xbox players can use the more powerful motor, then how come PS4 players can't?

I'm thinking 20 peak and 15 holding is going to plenty. 25Nm peak is probably overkill in my opinion. Not sure PS4 players will miss that extra 5Nm.

As for why? Who knows, could be licensing, could be PS4 limitations.

 

[somebodysb2]

I'm thinking 20 peak and 15 holding is going to plenty. 25Nm peak is probably overkill in my opinion. Not sure PS4 players will miss that extra 5Nm.

As for why? Who knows, could be licensing, could be PS4 limitations.

You are free to interpret the power disparity to be of no concern of yours but that doesn't stop others from feeling otherwise. If we all based our purchasing decisions on the unmeasurable metric of what is 'plenty' or what 'ought to be enough', then nobody will push the limits of what is possible with sim hardware.

At this price point, I want to be able to play on the platforms that I want with the wheel that I want. I don't think that it is too much of an ask.

As for PS4 limitations and licensing, I highly doubt that. If it were the case, then @DomB_Fanatec should just come out and tell us the truth. @Fanatec...'s communication is very wishy-washy at this point. There is no transparency.

 

[Krassi]

Jeez, when you think you saw everything - a new one pops up! Now the statement of the day is - "the worse motor"! This really made me laugh with voice! @somebodysb2 - I have 7Nm DD wheel and I use it on XB1 and PS4 - gotta say that even in my "Worse" case I have plenty of power and enjoy all racing titles. It is good to have some idea for what you speaking about, not only to play with numbers and seek how to hurt Fanatec or any other company! Ofcourse you asked a good question - Why the guys with Xbox will have access to DD2. The answer is clear - world conspiracy and Xbox domination, it is good to have Xbox these days!

 

[somebodysb2]

Jeez, when you think you saw everything - a new one pops up! Now the statement of the day is - "the worse motor"! This really made me laugh with voice! @somebodysb2 - I have 7Nm DD wheel and I use it on XB1 and PS4 - gotta say that even in my "Worse" case I have plenty of power and enjoy all racing titles. It is good to have some idea for what you speaking about, not only to play with numbers and seek how to hurt Fanatec or any other company! Ofcourse you asked a good question - Why the guys with Xbox will have access to DD2. The answer is clear - world conspiracy and Xbox domination, it is good to have Xbox these days!

It seems that you are deliberately trying obfuscate valid criticism of Fanatec by intentionally denigrating my comments and putting words into my mouth. If you naively think that my comments seek to 'hurt' Fanatec, then you need only look in the mirror.

Unfortunately, my original point has been lost on you: What some deem sufficient might not be the same for others.