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[acedition333]

Sorry, I will not make the race tonight.

 

[BrandonW77]

Well, I guess I'm quite literally not meant to win. Lead every lap of the feature race, with three turns to go my foot catches the side of the clutch which causes me to miss my braking point and go in the sand. FML.

Race 1 Results:

Race 2 Results:

 

[bananinhao]

Thanks for the race!

My internet connection is lame but at least we could run a bit

I was only seeing 4 cars in the 15min race! damn just saw the picture

 

[BrandonW77]

Adjustments to the physics simulation model
The physics simulation model of “Gran Turismo 6” has been updated with the following changes:

• The handling of some rear heavy cars has been improved

I'm guessing the F40 is going to feel a bit different this weekend. Anyone had a chance to drive it yet with the new update?

 

[acedition333]

Not yet, but any improvement is good for me!
Does this mean you may be changing it to SH
Tires?!

 

[BrandonW77]

Not yet, but any improvement is good for me!
Does this mean you may be changing it to SH
Tires?!

No way, it's damn near impossible to drive on SM and we probably should have been on SS last night. The thing is homicidal.

 

[acedition333]

No way, it's damn near impossible to drive on SM and we probably should have been on SS last night. The thing is homicidal.

I agree....it was tough for me in my practices. But you guys love the challenges...

 

[MC-Chase]

I thought it was OK to be honest, SH would have been fine too but I didn't think SM was bad - though I did install the chassis rigidity upgrade to help make it as tight as possible. I genuinely think low grip on suitable suspension rigidity is far easier to control than high amounts of tyre grip that the stock suspension just can't cope with. High grip tyres on wallowy suspension just makes over-correction on any little slide a complete nightmare to deal with.

 

[BrandonW77]

I thought it was OK to be honest, SH would have been fine too but I didn't think SM was bad - though I did install the chassis rigidity upgrade to help make it as tight as possible. I genuinely think low grip on suitable suspension rigidity is far easier to control than high amounts of tyre grip that the stock suspension just can't cope with. High grip tyres on wallowy suspension just makes over-correction on any little slide a complete nightmare to deal with.

I found it to be the worst handling car we've driven so far, by a long shot. I could only give one input at a time; brake, steer or accelerate, any combination of the two resulted in a strong desire by the car to face the other way. But then again I generally hate for my cars to be sideways. After my first test, realizing that this car had a fetish for being sideways, my initial thought was "wow, Chase is going to LOVE this thing!!".

 

[MC-Chase]

I found it to be the worst handling car we've driven so far, by a long shot. I could only give one input at a time; brake, steer or accelerate, any combination of the two resulted in a strong desire by the car to face the other way. But then again I generally hate for my cars to be sideways. After my first test, realizing that this car had a fetish for being sideways, my initial thought was "wow, Chase is going to LOVE this thing!!".

It was OK, don't like Motegi though (straight, long braking zone, slow corner, rinse, repeat) The thing that really let it down was that stupid gearbox, what a hateful set of ratios for an apparent performance car - I can't help but feel PD modeled these completely wrong like they did the Caterham.

 

[Cu3e]

I like Motegi. But the car made it feel very small. I think I never got to 4th gear even with the long straights. But once I got over using mostly 1st and 2nd gear it was fun.

The amont of draft surprised me. And not in a positive sense. Was it set to Weak?

 

[BrandonW77]

I like Motegi. But the car made it feel very small. I think I never got to 4th gear even with the long straights. But once I got over using mostly 1st and 2nd gear it was fun.

The amont of draft surprised me. And not in a positive sense. Was it set to Weak?

Yes, I set it to weak. With this car being so very difficult to drive I wanted to make sure overtaking wouldn't cause issues.

EDIT: To be honest, I hate the Real slipstream. It's non-existent and makes overtaking virtually impossible. Even at la Sarthe I couldn't get enough draft to pass somebody on the straights and it led to making some rather ugly overtake attempts. But I usually leave it on Real because I believe that's what the majority wants.

 

[Cu3e]

Checking the replay my experiences did not have maybe as much to do with the slipstream setting as I thought. So I am fine with the weak setting 👍

I had a few laps with the RUF and the Ferrari after the update. First impressions are that the change is stronger with the RUF. The rear is not trying to pass you anymore as much as before. Not sure how much it was because of my more careful driving style after the F40 though.

One more note on the F40. I think that driving this kind of car should be just a little scary without any traction control. Every acceleration has to be very careful or you will loose traction. I like it So I think that changing tires would take something away. But I am not against using SS in any way if you feel it is better.

 

[MC-Chase]

The rear is not trying to pass you anymore as much as before.

Boooooo 👎.

 

[hobbsy]

I'm pretty sure that the F40 is not a tame, take you to the shops kind of car... It wants to be driven hard, it is after all a raw race car with number plates!

So I find it challenging that you HAVE to be on your toes in this car and focus to drive it clean and fast. It can be done, but takes more practice to dial out that safety margin you find in other cars. I'm really looking forward to Saturday's race... 👍

 

[BrandonW77]

Checking the replay my experiences did not have maybe as much to do with the slipstream setting as I thought. So I am fine with the weak setting 👍

One more note on the F40. I think that driving this kind of car should be just a little scary without any traction control. Every acceleration has to be very careful or you will loose traction. I like it So I think that changing tires would take something away. But I am not against using SS in any way if you feel it is better.

I know the time you rammed me was probably my fault, I confused my braking point and hit the binders too early.

I'm pretty sure that the F40 is not a tame, take you to the shops kind of car... It wants to be driven hard, it is after all a raw race car with number plates!

So I find it challenging that you HAVE to be on your toes in this car and focus to drive it clean and fast. It can be done, but takes more practice to dial out that safety margin you find in other cars. I'm really looking forward to Saturday's race... 👍

I agree with these sentiments, and by declaring the car to be homicidal it didn't necessarily mean that's a bad thing. Taming that beast for 29.5 minutes is probably one of my finest GT achievements......and being homicide'd by it is one of my worst. It's still a murderous beast on SS, but I wouldn't s:censored:t myself quite as badly if I was two-wide in a turn.

Boooooo 👎.

I think Chase's dream series would be the FXX on completely bald CH tires.

 

[SagarisGTB]

EDIT: To be honest, I hate the Real slipstream. It's non-existent and makes overtaking virtually impossible. Even at la Sarthe I couldn't get enough draft to pass somebody on the straights and it led to making some rather ugly overtake attempts. But I usually leave it on Real because I believe that's what the majority wants.

"Real" is far closer to real world conditions and makes overtaking as difficult as it should be. With "real" you need to be very close and get a good exit from a corner to challenge the car ahead, instead of just staying close enough to the car ahead and then easily cruise by on a longish straight.

"Weak" can be fun as well in it's own way, but I think I prefer the challenge of "real".

 

[MC-Chase]

"Real" is far closer to real world conditions and makes overtaking as difficult as it should be. With "real" you need to be very close and get a good exit from a corner to challenge the car ahead, instead of just staying close enough to the car ahead and then easily cruise by on a longish straight.

"Weak" can be fun as well in it's own way, but I think I prefer the challenge of "real".

I was inclined to agree with you to be honest Sagaris. Brandon informed me about the situation in recent Indy car series though that swayed my view, maybe we need an aeronautical engineer to explain what's most "real" with cold hard science, and a decent engineer, not a **** one like me.

 

[BrandonW77]

I fully agree that's it's probably exactly as it should be and provides one helluva challenge that can be incredibly satisfying. But that doesn't mean it's always the most fun or makes for the best racing. Weak is still very weak and overtaking with it is still very challenging but it can provide just enough edge to prevent forced issues with certain cars or tracks.

I've generally used Real in the Ferrari events but occasionally I've thought it wise, in the interest of clean racing, to notch it up to Weak. It's never had a really dramatic effect as far as performance but I think it's helped keep heads cool and cars out of the sand. 👍

 

[MC-Chase]

Tends to vary a lot by car I noticed. Remember the Rockets? You could put the slipstream on strong and you would never tell if you were in a vacuum or not. On the other hand we ran the F3's on weak and the slipstream off those was immensely powerful.

 

[BrandonW77]

Which is how it should be. The Rocket would punch a very small hole in the air which wouldn't allow for much slipstream. The F3 would part the air like the Red Sea and create a large wake for slipstreaming. It's nice to know the aerodynamics work that well (not saying they're perfect). 👍

 

[amarynceos]

Commiseration on your last-gasp defeat, Brandon. That does not feel nice at all; I know after I funked it at the last corner of the last lap in the feature race at Spa, I kicked myself for more than a few days!!

Anyway, I should be back on track for next week's races -- the movers will be arriving on Saturday and the rig will be released from its dismembered imprisonment in the confines of a trailer. Huzzah! I haven't gone this long without getting behind the wheel in a very long time.

Regarding the more expensive Ferraris, I grabbed a 330 P4 recently. I was hoping we could run a race with those at Daytona, given the '67 podium sweep (okay, the winning car was a P3/4, but close enough) but I see that track has been scheduled for something else. I'll probably pick up the 20 mil GTO as well, just to round out the collection. Sounds like the 7.5 mil 250 GT isn't worth getting, though?

--amar

 

[acedition333]

My current F-40 is not able to get on track with tuning prohibited. So just letting you guys know you may need to buy another.
Most likely due to the update.

Maybe someone can confirm this?

 

[MC-Chase]

My current F-40 is not able to get on track with tuning prohibited. So just letting you guys know you may need to buy another.
Most likely due to the update.

Maybe someone can confirm this?

We've all had trouble Ace, just go to the settings screen, exit, and try again, rinse and repeat if it doesn't work. Odd glitch for sure but most of us have had that at some point.

 

[Torzilla]

We've all had trouble Ace, just go to the settings screen, exit, and try again, rinse and repeat if it doesn't work. Odd glitch for sure but most of us have had that at some point.

Yes try this. I had the same thing happen to my RUF yesterday after I installed the update and going into settings and exiting worked fine.

 

[BrandonW77]

Same here. Just looking at the Settings screen seems to fix it.

I'm interested to see if any wheel users notice a difference in the F40. I definitely noticed an improvement but Chase said he couldn't notice it on the pad. I can certainly see how the changes I felt wouldn't be noticeable on a pad though.

 

[turnupdaheat]

For any car you bought before the latest update you need to simply click the Reset to Default button relating to the suspension settings. You have to do this even if you haven't altered the settings in the first place but it only takes a couple of seconds to do so.

 

[BrandonW77]

For any car you bought before the latest update you need to simply click the Reset to Default button relating to the suspension settings. You have to do this even if you haven't altered the settings in the first place but it only takes a couple of seconds to do so.

But the F40 doesn't have the option to reset anything to default in stock form because nothing is adjustable. All I had to do was open the Settings screen and then exit out of it, then I could get on track.

 

[turnupdaheat]

Fair enough, but in general terms if you encounter the problem with other cars that can be adjusted the Reset to Default button is the fix.

 

[hobbsy]

I encountered this problem with an anniversary car, and no amount of "resetting" would allow me in, even though it was completely stock as I received it, but these cars are modified slightly over there original model!