FF Drift

Well what is TC and ASM for then in the first place with FF cars, because if it doesn't let you spin in any way without it, WHY PUT IT ON:odd::irked:
 
i believe that the FF drift is not as good as the regular drift but it is still considered a drift. seeing the Falken EF civic inspired me to drift my integra....lol :D one day ill post pics of my FF integra drift. i only do it in the rain though cause my tires arent cheap. :)
now about the ebrake thing for the pros, as far as i know they use the ebrake to sometimes initiate the drift and to regulate wheel spin. braking power can be adjusted as well. assuming what i read from magazines is right. :)
 
I can make meh Integra drift, but in 2 player I can't because you need teh same tires front and back.

Yeah I wanted someone to find teh settings for me in teh Drifting Depot but I got tired of waiting and did it myself...

Front tire:N3
Back Tire:N1
Suspension set up:
SR= 8/6
RH= 90/90
S(B)= 8/2
S(R)= 8/2
Camber Angle:4/2
Toe Angle: 2/-2
Stablizers: 6/4

Brake Control:
8/24

Sure it can drift, just not on 2 player.
 
I have a Volvo S60 that drifts with low RPM's, same with the stock Focus's, hold then at around 3,500-4,000RPM's on Suzuka and You'll see, I did it on Rur alot also. The RS also does it on PGR2 and also was on Fifth Gear on Speed Network doing that also and Tiff didn't even touch the handbrake. some FWD cars have that type of weight transfer, like my grandfather's '95 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. if he floors it during a turn or lets off after flooring it to make a turn it will drift, and the models from '85-Present Day are Front Wheel drive so it is possible :)
 
if you're having a hard time drifting with the same tires front and rear, the best thing you can do is just use your e-brake to assist you when your shifting weight. customization of your car settings is very limiting in arcade mode, and settings is key for FF drift technique. if you can't learn a technique with this limitation, then get the US version GT4 so u can use ur own cars from your garage. otherwise, all i can say is adjust the settings and maximize compatibility with your technique, and use the e-brake.
 
Here is my 2 cents worth.
IRL, I have driven nothing but FF cars under 110HP. My wife's Saturn, I could pick a tire and pivot around it without touching the handbrake. My Hachi-Ni could, with a little extra steering input, kick the @$$ out like a Hachi-Roku. My Golf I was the only one that required right-hand braking, but that torsion-beam rear suspension was like a massive swaybar.
Now, I have yet to try much in GT4, but given what I've seen of the physics engine so far, I think I can chalk all y'all's problems up to sucking!
 
apexd1fd3s
haha, that's as rediculous as saying rotary powered V8. funny stuff ;)
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Ill get a tongue lashing for this but I can not stand rotary!
they dont suck... I know they are cool and all, but this is the ending comment
"No replacement for Displacement"
plus Turbo isnt a replacement for displacement either!

But I dont hate I just dont like :)
 
antisport.net
Ill get a tongue lashing for this but I can not stand rotary!
they dont suck... I know they are cool and all, but this is the ending comment
"No replacement for Displacement"
plus Turbo isnt a replacement for displacement either!

But I dont hate I just dont like :)
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it's koo, i respect ur opinion. But rotary is light and powerful. No valves, no cylinders, no problems 👍 i wonder why rotary got banned from lemans after winning 💡
 
antisport.net
Ill get a tongue lashing for this but I can not stand rotary!
they dont suck... I know they are cool and all, but this is the ending comment
"No replacement for Displacement"
plus Turbo isnt a replacement for displacement either!

But I dont hate I just dont like :)
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A rotary engine is equivalent to an Otto-cycle piston engine with twice the capacity and three times the number of cylinders - so the RX-7's 1.3 twin rotor is the same as a 2.6 litre 6-cylinder piston engine.

During one "rotation" of the engine an individual piston can go either up or down. To complete one firing sequence the piston needs to go up AND down AND up AND down again (downstroke - intake, upstroke - compression and ignition, downstroke - expansion, upstroke - exhaust) - or two rotations of the engine. So for one rotation an individual piston manages half a cycle. So in 6 cylinders you get 3 cycles per revolution.

During one "rotation" of a rotary engine, the rotor manages three intakes, three compression/ignitions and and three exhausts, all in one. In a twin rotor you've thus got SIX complete cycles per revolution - twice as much as the 6 cylinder engine. This makes the 1.3 rotary the equivalent of the 2.6 i6.


Turbocharging gives increase power and torque, so in fact IS a replacement for displacement. It can also be used quite effectively on already large engines - take the Esprit's 3.5 litre twinturbocharged V8.


Aaaaaand finally, you can get rear-engine, front drive. Most WWI tanks were RF or even MF.

Then again, you've been banned, so you don't care.
 
for a FF drfit in GT4, all you have to do is make the front springs super stiff, make the rear springs completely soft, buy an LSD, and you'll power-oversteer like mad.

GT realism.... yay.... 👎
 
I don't like it, maybe because I haven't gotten used to the physics of a front wheel drive car sliding.

Usually I just understeer to kingdom come.
 
Greyout
for a FF drfit in GT4, all you have to do is make the front springs super stiff, make the rear springs completely soft, buy an LSD, and you'll power-oversteer like mad.

GT realism.... yay.... 👎
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Weird, i have my first FF drifter set up the exact opposite, softer in the front, harder in the rear, and no LSD. I figured the LSD was going to try and rotate both front tires at the same speed, and thats no fun in a turn since its more likely youll break the inside tire loose.

Although...I could see how the LSD would help keep the car more stable while youre in a drift. If i countersteer too much with my Suzuki S2 concept drifter its a perfect example of the snap oversteer, probably the worst experience ive had with it so far in GT4.
 
The only way you can get a FF car to drift (when i mean drift i mean dictionary term drift) is if you can gather some inertia and let the car slide through the turn WITHOUT pulling the E-brake. Drifting WITH the E-Brake is called POWERSLIDING wether you do it in a FWD car or a RWD car...... I cant believe the amount of people that miss use the term Drifting. Its used so loosely. Almost a WHORE term now.
 
fwd is a endless topic

Drifting with the e brake is called "side" and is still a another drifting style/tech
according to the best motorings Drift King "Drift Bible" not "Powerslide Bible"
besides he owns the sportand i would believe him over any videogamers .
here ya go
gallerymrtdriftfdla104xu.jpg

i want you tell falken FWD drifter Keisuke Hatakeyama that hes not drifting,
im pretty sure he would slap that DS2 out of your hand. :crazy: lol
 
Naticon
fwd is a endless topic

Drifting with the e brake is called "side" and is still a another drifting style/tech
according to the best motorings Drift King "Drift Bible" not "Powerslide Bible"
besides he owns the sportand i would believe him over any videogamers .
here ya go

i want you tell falken FWD drifter Keisuke Hatakeyama that hes not drifting,
im pretty sure he would slap that DS2 out of your hand. :crazy: lol
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Its not called "SIDE" thats just bad translation......... Powersliding can be seperated in to 2 categories.....
1. You pull the ebrake to correct or to induce a slide BUT you do NOT keep it up the entire time. this is what most RWD cars do and this is the part of powersliding that is considered DRIFTING.

2. You pull the ebrake to induce the slide BUT you KEEP it up because with out it on youre gonna A. Slow down to almost 0 or B. Gain traction abruptly and end the Drift. The later is not really drifting. Powersliding is a very general term to do with ebraking and turning. Granted FWD drifting is possible (it is possible to gain enough momentum to go through the corner at reasonable speeds) but youd need a high speed corner for that.

AND Tsuchiya DOES NOT OWN the SPORT. He may OWN D1GP but he does not OWNING drifting. Contrary to what you Fanboys:dunce: think Drifting has been happening For ages. All over the world. People have been sliding since the first RWD cars (i dont know about the model T though:crazy:.

Although i do have great respect for Keisuke Hatakeyama hes still not using his RW to power him through a slide:scared: therefore technically not drifting.
 
Tsuchiya may be the king of drift, but the godfather of drift is credited to Kunimitsu Takahashi. He's the one that took the turns aggressively by "drifting" in his KPC10. this was in the 70's, and Tsuchiya went to sepctate these races, that's how he was inspired.

edit: plus, Tsuchiya doesn't own drifting! he's just the most respected. he may have started D1, but D1 wasn't the first drift competition either.

addition: Hatakeyama may not be drifting, but he's still able to hang with any other drift car. I've seen his demo first hand. If all you're trying to say is that his driving isn't called "drifting", I can accept that. If you say FF isn't capable of doing what the other cars can in the drift scene, I would disagree.
 
apexd1fd3s
addition: Hatakeyama may not be drifting, but he's still able to hang with any other drift car. I've seen his demo first hand. If all you're trying to say is that his driving isn't called "drifting", I can accept that. If you say FF isn't capable of doing what the other cars can in the drift scene, I would disagree.
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No I do think when done properly all car layouts (including if not especially AWD cars) can hang with RWD cars. I just dont think this particular Powersliding (holding the Ebrake throughout the turn) is considered Drifting.👍
 
Homer_SS
No I do think when done properly all car layouts (including if not especially AWD cars) can hang with RWD cars. I just dont think this particular Powersliding (holding the Ebrake throughout the turn) is considered Drifting.👍
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"holding the Ebrake throughout the turn" <- Is this what you guys are doing?? It's not a very handsome technique.. nor does it work well, IMO.. Occasionally pull the ebrake when neccissary, but don't keep it locked... That would be a pretty cheap drift IMO.
 
man you guys are pushing my comment way overboard ,
i just want people to get off the definition of "drift"
and just love the sport, and enjoy the feel, the sight, and the smoke of
various cars sliding sideways around turns. no titles, no definitions, no drivetrains.
they all have one thing in common. they want to get sideways!! by all means possible. brakes, G force, bad tires what ever!!! 👍 👍
lol
:) i love you guys man
 
Naticon
man you guys are pushing my comment way overboard ,
i just want people to get off the definition of "drift"
and just love the sport, and enjoy the feel, the sight, and the smoke of
various cars sliding sideways around turns. no titles, no definitions, no drivetrains.
they all have one thing in common. they want to get sideways!! by all means possible. brakes, G force, bad tires what ever!!! 👍 👍
lol
:) i love you guys man
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Sorry about that i was kinda ticked off with other comments in this thread posted by people who no nothing yet pretend to so much. :dunce: But no hardfeelings eh?

and

Naticon
:) i love you guys man
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to quote Dr.Evil...... "Thats not something one DUDE should say to another DUDE"
Unless youre a girl ;)
 

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