[FGTA][ENDURANCE][GT300]Season2-FINALE: OZWHEELS IS THE CHAMPION!Open

[ozwheels]

If he lowers it then it has less chance of changing meaning this race would be a full wet race possibly

I think

That is how it works and I don't mind driving in the rain, it makes a cars advantage disappear since it's all about driving. It's just hard to have a solid pit stratagey when it's completely random weather.

 

[pyrates]

Yeah I agree with oz. I don't even mind a change in the race from rain to dry or vice versa but it shouldn't be very sudden and so extreme like it was in Monza.

Like the test I did earlier today with ekke and karsten. It dried completely in just what? 3 laps? That's a little sudden for my taste.

 

[SkengD]

Yeah I agree with oz. I don't even mind a change in the race from rain to dry or vice versa but it shouldn't be very sudden and so extreme like it was in Monza.

Like the test I did earlier today with ekke and karsten. It dried completely in just what? 3 laps? That's a little sudden for my taste.

To be fair monza wasnt sudden , it didnt rain til lap 23 +

 

[pyrates]

To be fair monza wasnt sudden , it didnt rain til lap 23 +

Yeah that's true it wasn't. It was just very extreme in terms of water levels.

 

[ozwheels]

To be fair monza wasnt sudden , it didnt rain til lap 23 +

It went from 0% to 100% in about 10 laps. I think that's what pyrates meant.

 

[pyrates]

It went from 0% to 100% in about 10 laps. I think that's what pyrates meant.

Yep, pretty much. Quite extreme changes in a relatively short time span. Makes tire choice really a gamble. I went on inters when it was only about 14% i think because I expected it to turn out this way. But within just a couple of laps I would have rather needed full wets already.

 

[ozwheels]

Yep, pretty much. Quite extreme changes in a relatively short time span. Makes tire choice really a gamble. I went on inters when it was only about 14% i think because I expected it to turn out this way. But within just a couple of laps I would have rather needed full wets already.

lol I did the same thing, when I watched the replay it went from 9% to 19% in one lap, that's when I lost it while on softs

 

[pyrates]

lol I did the same thing, when I watched the replay it went from 9% to 19% in one lap, that's when I lost it while on softs

Yeah I changed after I caught some wet spot in parabolica and spun. You then overtook me and I thought 🤬 it I am not doing this on slicks.

 

[SkengD]

I spun on parabolica too then went into pits

 

[azidahaka]

the variability is set at 6/7 reason for that is that we are simulating 8/12hours races condensed in 1:30.

it's never that fast changing and sometimes it gets to 15% and then redries up. variable weather like in real life after all

 

[SkengD]

I have no problem with it , it does make it a sort of lottery as you cant predict it

I think this race we will all have to guess what tire to start on as qualy might be wet

I am super slow by the way , will be surprised if I dont finish last

- 40 hp is no joke

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

Yeah I agree with oz. I don't even mind a change in the race from rain to dry or vice versa but it shouldn't be very sudden and so extreme like it was in Monza.

Like the test I did earlier today with ekke and karsten. It dried completely in just what? 3 laps? That's a little sudden for my taste.

It went from 0% to 100% in about 10 laps. I think that's what pyrates meant.

Yep, pretty much. Quite extreme changes in a relatively short time span. Makes tire choice really a gamble. I went on inters when it was only about 14% i think because I expected it to turn out this way. But within just a couple of laps I would have rather needed full wets already.

the variability is set at 6/7 reason for that is that we are simulating 8/12hours races condensed in 1:30.

it's never that fast changing and sometimes it gets to 15% and then redries up. variable weather like in real life after all

At Le Mans the other week, and practicing for this weekend's Spa race, we have found that the surface water level does move very quickly, it can hold at 0 or 100% for ages, but as soon as it starts moving it will be to the opposite within a minute

I think we need to do some checking this out

 

[ozwheels]

At Le Mans the other week, and practicing for this weekend's Spa race, we have found that the surface water level does move very quickly, it can hold at 0 or 100% for ages, but as soon as it starts moving it will be to the opposite within a minute

I think we need to do some checking this out

The only thing you can do is set weather to fixed, like real life. Fixed doesn't mean it won't rain or it won't dry out, it means it will be consistent from race start to race end. In real life when the weather forecast is light rain you don't get a full on rain storm.

 

[SkengD]

I must be confused but how can the weather be fixed in real life , fixed means it cant change right ?

Fixed means fixed as in stationary , not moving ?

 

[P1K3Y_M1k3Y]

The only thing you can do is set weather to fixed, like real life. Fixed doesn't mean it won't rain or it won't dry out, it means it will be consistent from race start to race end. In real life when the weather forecast is light rain you don't get a full on rain storm.

But you can't set the room to light rain showers without setting changeability (or never does for me) fix the weather at 50% = overcast, but dry, 60% = rains heavy enough to shoot straight to 100%

Basically, the weather settings in GT are S***!

 

[ozwheels]

I must be confused but how can the weather be fixed in real life , fixed means it cant change right ?

Fixed means fixed as in stationary , not moving ?

Obviously weather can change in real life, but you don't get something opposite of what the forecast is.

 

[BAZZER]

Obviously weather can change in real life, but you don't get something opposite of what the forecast is.

You should try living in England

 

[priesty_lfc]

Any wet/dry times yet?

Oh and

Should be fun Monday

 

[Stephen Vann]

Any wet/dry times yet?

Oh and


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Should be fun Monday

Oh dear dear me, i just have not had time to get on and practice this week and am away until Monday aftrernoon, so i hsall have to grab a bit of practice just before the race. If its wet maybe having less power might be an advantage at suzuka ? might turn my Lexus sown to 50 hp , might stop me spinning all over the place LOL

 

[azidahaka]

Just wishing to point out a few things concerning weather and monza in specific. So that drivers will understand things better abou weather. I was thinking about writing a faq about it

Statement: The track dried in just 10 laps!
We run at 6 or 7 weather change and time change too.
This means the track would have dried up in 60 to 70 laps. It doesn't seem so bad right?

I mentioned the time change too for a reason; the drying up or wetting up of the track depends on temperature and time of the day.

Iirc monza is run at 15:00 with _air_ temperature over 20c. This means that the track is very hot. Being fixed time i guess the track was modelled over a spring or summer day and at _15:00_. In summer a sudden shower can flood a track in short time, but as soon as the clouds open it can dry up in like 10 or 15 minutes.

This track temperature is one of the reason sometimes it lightly rain but it doesn't add to wetness (altought the track gets more slippery due to tarmac temperature lowering).

Suzuka is another case; race is run at morning so it gets wet faster and drys slower.

What most people do not take into account is that polyphony modelled temperature along weather.

So this explains people complaining of track drying from 100% to zero in short time? It indeed does!

If you start monza with 100% water but zero weather you are putting water on a boiling track under a summer sun... Try throwing a glass of water on hot tarmac and see how long it takes to evaporate... If instead thew weather naturally moves to rain, the temperature of air and track will change in a more smooth way.

Remember that places out of racing line and in shadows dry slower than others! And very important it take way longer to dry if sun is not perpendicular (max strenght) or absent.

Hope i managed to explain a bit, for i did study it quite a lot

If people think it' interesting i'll make a faq for real lol

 

[pyrates]

Just wishing to point out a few things concerning weather and monza in specific. So that drivers will understand things better abou weather. I was thinking about writing a faq about it

Statement: The track dried in just 10 laps!
We run at 6 or 7 weather change and time change too.
This means the track would have dried up in 60 to 70 laps. It doesn't seem so bad right?

I mentioned the time change too for a reason; the drying up or wetting up of the track depends on temperature and time of the day.

Iirc monza is run at 15:00 with _air_ temperature over 20c. This means that the track is very hot. Being fixed time i guess the track was modelled over a spring or summer day and at _15:00_. In summer a sudden shower can flood a track in short time, but as soon as the clouds open it can dry up in like 10 or 15 minutes.

This track temperature is one of the reason sometimes it lightly rain but it doesn't add to wetness (altought the track gets more slippery due to tarmac temperature lowering).

Suzuka is another case; race is run at morning so it gets wet faster and drys slower.

What most people do not take into account is that polyphony modelled temperature along weather.

So this explains people complaining of track drying from 100% to zero in short time? It indeed does!

If you start monza with 100% water but zero weather you are putting water on a boiling track under a summer sun... Try throwing a glass of water on hot tarmac and see how long it takes to evaporate... If instead thew weather naturally moves to rain, the temperature of air and track will change in a more smooth way.

Remember that places out of racing line and in shadows dry slower than others! And very important it take way longer to dry if sun is not perpendicular (max strenght) or absent.

Hope i managed to explain a bit, for i did study it quite a lot

If people think it' interesting i'll make a faq for real lol

Well, I would be definitely interested in a detailed faq. 👍

 

[ozwheels]

Just wishing to point out a few things concerning weather and monza in specific. So that drivers will understand things better abou weather. I was thinking about writing a faq about it

Statement: The track dried in just 10 laps!
We run at 6 or 7 weather change and time change too.
This means the track would have dried up in 60 to 70 laps. It doesn't seem so bad right?

I mentioned the time change too for a reason; the drying up or wetting up of the track depends on temperature and time of the day.

Iirc monza is run at 15:00 with _air_ temperature over 20c. This means that the track is very hot. Being fixed time i guess the track was modelled over a spring or summer day and at _15:00_. In summer a sudden shower can flood a track in short time, but as soon as the clouds open it can dry up in like 10 or 15 minutes.

This track temperature is one of the reason sometimes it lightly rain but it doesn't add to wetness (altought the track gets more slippery due to tarmac temperature lowering).

Suzuka is another case; race is run at morning so it gets wet faster and drys slower.

What most people do not take into account is that polyphony modelled temperature along weather.

So this explains people complaining of track drying from 100% to zero in short time? It indeed does!

If you start monza with 100% water but zero weather you are putting water on a boiling track under a summer sun... Try throwing a glass of water on hot tarmac and see how long it takes to evaporate... If instead thew weather naturally moves to rain, the temperature of air and track will change in a more smooth way.

Remember that places out of racing line and in shadows dry slower than others! And very important it take way longer to dry if sun is not perpendicular (max strenght) or absent.

Hope i managed to explain a bit, for i did study it quite a lot

If people think it' interesting i'll make a faq for real lol

We're going with 30% surface water 70% weather and 6 change right?

 

[azidahaka]

i saved the settings but it's correct. maybe time is at 7 should look when i have the time

 

[RodeRuner1967]

I have to miss the race. Have to take wife to another appointment.
Sorry again.

 

[azidahaka]

don't worry, hope it's nothing serious

 

[SkengD]

Looking forward to a wet race today , if its dry i will be out of the top 4 for sure

 

[azidahaka]

considering yoursituation dropping out of top 4 might be a good thing for you

 

[SkengD]

considering yoursituation dropping out of top 4 might be a good thing for you

Wouldnt be fun If i didnt give it 100 pct every race

 

[azidahaka]

yup i know second race i did think about letting ekke through for avoiding a -10... in the end i didn't lol

 

[BAKEMISTER]

i have a room open right now if anyone wants to join