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[DrifterJoe]

Any ideas on tracks yet, or is it a bit early?

 

[berty1979]

its VERY early but no harm talking about it, what do you suggest?

 

[PIGBOY]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6222374#post6222374
Tunes for the old Le Mans Race cars XJ13 GT40 330 P4 Mark IV.
Tune for Audi R8 LMS is under these tunes and it is unreal,1 of his best.

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[berty1979]

Amazing pB, thanks for that bro! Going on shortcut now 👍
Toyota 7 would be too fast would it not?

As for tracks I would like Indy road and Spa for starters. I would also go for Sarth and Nurburg as a must.

 

[cgr-10]

You should ban Active Steering aswell, just to be on the safe side

As for tracks, it depends. If you're running a series like the Classic endurance Championships of the 60's then Le Mans, Nurburgring, Daytona Road, Monza, Spa and maybe even Fuji are all musts. But if you're just doing something a bit more open and vague I suggest some city tracks maybe?

 

[berty1979]

As you can see I like lists so ill get the tracks on there 👍
No, I use Active steering!


Classics(3 people per team)

Jaguar xj13- Rhyfelwr, Ellis , Sandman
Ford Mk4- Skatenj, pagey,........
Ferrari P4- Ronin, DrifterJoe, .......... .
Ford Gt40-Mustardaddict,...............,.......... .
Chapparel 2d- TomMcD,.............,.......... .

TCS
SRF
ASM all banned
ABS 1

Track suggestions

Nurburgring
Spa
Indy Road
Daytona Road
Monza
Sarth
Fuji
Cote d Azure

 

[cgr-10]

Really? I thought active steering was for people with no car control?

EDIT: Man, if you're using it I'll have to use it just to stay competitive. And the Fuji GT layout, not the one with the awful chicane 👍

 

[DrifterJoe]

I'll list some tracks in order of preference (highest to lowest):

• Circuit de la Sarthe (no chicanes) 2005 or 2009 (since they didn't have the chicanes back when these cars were racing). If you want weather, then go for 2009 with chicanes and time and weather change. Though the 2D and GT40 don't have full beam headlights as they're standards, so maybe keep it daytime.
• Circuit De Spa-Francorchamps (weather change version)
• Autodromo Nazionale Monza. (probably the no chicane version since the track still used the oval and had no chicanes back when these cars were racing) If you want weather, then go for the weather change version, which has the chicane.
• Suzuka Circuit (weather change)
• Indianapolis Motor Speedway (the oval, not the road course).
• High Speed Ring (weather change)
• Cote d' Azur
• Special Stage Route 5

EDIT: throw in the 24 hour Nurburging course with weather+time too.

 

[cgr-10]

The ones Joe listed seem like good ideas, but these cars can be quite twitchy in the corners and I wouldn't like to drive one for 40 laps in the rain every week. So maybe only have the Le Mans and Spa/Nurb race with weather? The standard headlights aren't much worse are they mate?

 

[DrifterJoe]

The ones Joe listed seem like good ideas, but these cars can be quite twitchy in the corners and I wouldn't like to drive one for 40 laps in the rain every week. So maybe only have the Le Mans and Spa race with weather? The standard headlights aren't much worse are they mate?

Not much, but they would be at a slight disadvantage. I'll agree with only having Spa and la Sarthe with weather. In which case, use the non weather change version of the other tracks that can have weather. There are differences in grip between the weather change and non-weather change versions of tracks.

Also, there'd only be a CHANCE of weather (depending on the settings used), they could end up being completely dry races.

EDIT: Just noticed that there is a spare tyre in the back of the Ferrari.

 

[berty1979]

Tom- Now I must race you to prove my prowess
I used it from day 1 and am scared to turn it off now!

Joe- Did the 24 hour course exist in the 'olden days' mate? I thought it was just the Nordy.


Classics(3 people per team)

Jaguar xj13- Rhyfelwr, Ellis , Sandman
Ford Mk4- Skatenj, pagey,........
Ferrari P4- Ronin, DrifterJoe, .......... .
Ford Gt40-Mustardaddict,...............,.......... .
Chapparel 2d- TomMcD,.............,.......... .

TCS
SRF
ASM all banned
ABS 1

Track suggestions

Nurburgring
Spa (weather)
Indy Road
Daytona Road
Monza (no chicane)
Sarth 2005
Fuji
Cote d Azure
Suzuka (weather)
Indy oval
HSR (weather)
SSR5

We can vote on these so the season is not too long. I was thinking half hour races, 2 races per session fortnightly. Top two team finishers results apply to the teams and you can drop two results during season to make up for no shows.

 

[cgr-10]

Well when I did a race in Furi's Classic series it was everything off and it really is a challenge. The best drivers shine through because it's so hard to control the car, and yes, yes you do!

Or here's a thought, shorter races at the smaller circuits (75-100 miles) and longer 'Enduros' at Le Mans, the Nurb, maybe Monza or Spa (150 miles approx)?

 

[berty1979]

I shall look forward to that clash, it still be a challenge dont worry. What about tyres? They would of course had slicks but maybe that would be too easy for you?

The length of the races would depend on when we want to start this as far as I am concerned.

 

[cgr-10]

It's either Snow tires or Comfort hards bro, everything else is too easy

Seriously, I think you should leave it unrestricted. You need as much grip as you can get in these cars w/ aids off 👍

 

[DrifterJoe]

Berty: the original layout of Circuit de la Sarthe was finished/first raced on in 1921, and the 24 hour race was first done in 1923.
http://www.virtua-lm.com/lemans/history.php?y=21_28

The original layout of the Nurburgring (called the Gesamtstrecke, which was the Nordschleife + the Sudschleife) was finished in 1927, with work having begun in 1925. So Circuit de la Sarthe existed before it.

 

[berty1979]

Tom- Snow tyres it is, and we all have to use only one hand to operate the controls too
(racing softs it is)

Joe- Ill read the link because its interesting to me but I have misled you.
You mentioned the Nurburg 24 hr, I asked (unclearly maybe) did a 24hr layout exist back in the sixties for this track or was it just the Nordschlife?

 

[DrifterJoe]

Tom- Snow tyres it is, and we all have to use only one hand to operate the controls too
(racing softs it is)

Joe- Ill read the link because its interesting to me but I have misled you.
You mentioned the Nurburg 24 hr, I asked (unclearly maybe) did a 24hr layout exist back in the sixties for this track or was it just the Nordschlife?

I'll check when the 24 hour race was first held + the used layout and edit it into this post.

EDIT: There were unoffical endurance races held between 1961 and 1967, ranging from 12 hours to 96 hours. The first official 24 hour race was in 1970. The layout used was the Nordschleife with the original pit area and first two corners. (this is now the pit area for the GP track. the first corner was a banked hairpin, and the second corner was where the current GP track joins the current Nordscheife).

EDIT 2: You have Sarthe 2005 listed as a track suggestion, is this with or without chicanes? Personally I'd prefer Sarthe 2009 with weather. (Only the '09 chicaned layout has weather+time.)

 

[berty1979]

Cool mate, off to bed but ill check it out tomorrow 👍

@ Pigboy- Read your messages bro!

 

[SkateNj]

I'd use the GT40. a bit fishtaily but eh.

Use the mk4!!!

 

[Rich S]

Really hoping for new tracks.....with the next DLC. All kazanori yamauchi seems to want is more versions of the freakin' GTR. (diff paint scheme, got to have a separate model for that one, diff seats, diff model, blablabla).

The old Austrian GP track was super cool.

 

[SkateNj]

Oh rhy dont allow srf that will just ruin the cars. How about all aids off except abs. Race them their hardcore selfs.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Oh rhy dont allow srf that will just ruin the cars. How about all aids off except abs. Race them their hardcore selfs.

I'm fairly sure that "TCS
SRF
ASM all banned" means that all 3 mentioned aids are banned. >_>

 

[SkateNj]

I'm fairly sure that "TCS
SRF
ASM all banned" means that all 3 mentioned aids are banned. >_>

Oh i didnt see the all banned i thought it just said banned. And use sports mediums as its more accurate to the period. Tires back then lasted half a season and didnt have much grip.

 

[PIGBOY]

From my experience doesnt harder tyres make car control even more critical and up to the driver.ABs off would disadvantage controller users pig says.A few test events maybe after fgtc races are needed to sort tyres because its all about our enjoyment and harder tyres do piss you off alot when your not used to them,but get used to them and you will enjoy.I did 2 short races online usin sport and comfort tyres and it was very challenging trying to make up time,sideways all the time,so was the car in front of me....like the sands of the hour glass these are the days of our lives..rreeeeeeeee<--thats a pig squeel

 

[SkateNj]

These cars are more fun with period accurate tires. Soft slicks make them so easy and boring.

 

[smithaz]

sign me up for the mk4, i want to challenge pagey on an even keel/

 

[SkateNj]

I think the cars should have team names. Like gulf oil for the gt40 mk2 Ford racing for the mk4 etc.

 

[ETID]

Sign me up for the Ferrari. Only if TC and SRF is allowed because these cars are just silly to handle on a controller without aids.

 

[SkateNj]

Hell no. Learn to handle these beasts like old drivers did.

 

[ETID]

On a controller it is much more difficult for people like me, ellis, flood and others.