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I think that this is one of the those tracks where the gaps from top drivers to the rest of us is bigger than most, so I'm trying to not get discouraged. I've noticed before that I'm not able to get my K' target times as easily for Daily Races, nor the equivalent pace for the FIA races, in Gr3 cars especially. And I haven't been able to touch my targets for this race today so far in prior practice sessions. So it's clearly one that 'separates' the masters from the rest of us... (in either direction, as it turns out!)

For me, it seems best to employ a set of softs, as the advantage is more than 1 sec a lap with a very short 6 sec or so pit delta. And for sure, the first lap will be a mess on cold tires, as the long turns at this track require your tires to be up to temperature, and that first long turn is always challenging at the start. But wear doesn't seem to be much of an issue, and the fall-off isn't terrible.

So I'll likely throw on a set of H's at the start, to throw away after a lap, and use a set of the optional Softs to get the best result I can. I need one, after the poor Nations race I had at Laguna.

Going to trundle out and look a fool at maggiore tonight. I am beyond useless at that track, but need to learn it so going to take my jag out for a beating. Hoping the longer race and tire wear practice gives it some spice. Will update whether it is good or I just fill the back of the grid and try not to get lapped.

Yup. Mostly DR A grid. Going to be a long race. Oh well.

Welp, I’m gonna pass on Manufacturer today. Just like DTG reverse, I can’t get to grips with the circuit in both lap time (2:02 in custom race) and consistency (the esses being the main killer).

Did 3 races today, each scoring less points than the previous attempt. But the original score wouldn't have counted anyway so not a big deal.

Side note: Maggiore GP II is one of the trickiest circuits in the game... a lot of finesse required on the brakes.
 
I haven't looked too closely at the multipliers and cars for this season of Nations, but I know there are several rounds that use road cars, which means that they will most likely be using either Sports or Comfort tires. Don't forget that the tire multipliers will almost always be higher when using non-Racing tires, because they are harder compounds. So a 15X tire multiplier on comforts or sports tires isn't nearly as detrimental to tire life as it would be if they were racing tires. I remember a 20X tire wear race in N300 not long ago, and the tires were good for the whole race. Don't be discouraged...everyone else has the same handicap. Just race!

There's a few on there I'll likely race just don't plan on making a run into the top140. Looks like quite a few Gr3 & Gr4 races mixed into the final stage of Nations.

Just spent a solid 35 mins trying to learn Lago Maggiore GP II, and I'm still far from a competitive pace for my DR (mid-1:56s), so I think I'm just gonna sit Manufacturers out tomorrow. Good luck to everyone who'll be participating!

1:56s is actually a decent race pace to be honest. That's about what I'm running with a couple of 1:55s early on. I've gotten my qualifying down to 54.8xx to 55.1xx but I can't maintain that pace. You may be surprised!
 
I feel like I'm also able to break down what went wrong for me:

-My family and I ate dinner a lot later than usual, so I was only able to do the 22:20 slot. I might've been a bit more tired by then, versus if I had picked the 21:00 slot, or an earlier one. (EDIT: I also could’ve had more opportunities to make up for a bad entry if I had time for more than one slot.)

-I was still a bit emotionally clouded by my struggles with online dating.

-I feel like I was too aggressive, often not braking early enough, and I think I lightly tapped this guy in a red Porsche on the corkscrew. I don't know if it was retaliation since he was driving quite sloppily otherwise, but for whatever reason, he hit me on that last turn and I got a one-second penalty. Overall, I should've relied on my pitting strategy, and drove more conservatively.

-I also turned too early on that turn before the corkscrew, hit the sausage kerb, and lost control. Again, I should've been more careful and had more trust in my pitting strategy.

It's too bad, because I feel like I could've gained some positions just by my pit strategy alone. I may've lost about 1k DR just from this round, but given my time for Race B - and indeed, the rankings for my daily race times in general lately - I don't think it'll be hard to build it up again. Who knows, maybe my lower DR (33.1K) will get me into a lower-split lobby, whether for a daily race or a FIAGTC round.

I'll likely skip tonight's round, though, even though there isn't thunder forecast this evening anymore. I might do some daily races instead, or maybe work on the LH Challenge - I've been coming a bit closer to getting my first diamond, on Dragon Trail Seaside. At any rate, I'm not too upset, even with both the DR loss and the fact I'm no longer in the top 300 for USA as of this Nations Cup round; there seem to be plenty of other upcoming opportunities to make up for my errors last night.
 
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Welp, I’m gonna pass on Manufacturer today. Just like DTG reverse, I can’t get to grips with the circuit in both lap time (2:02 in custom race) and consistency (the esses being the main killer).

You just have to full send your car into the esses around 120+ then downshift let car roll into it and exit in 3rd. Took me a while to get this one down in reverse. Murder the track limits helps.
 
You just have to full send your car into the esses around 120+ then downshift let car roll into it and exit in 3rd. Took me a while to get this one down in reverse. Murder the track limits helps.
there is definitely a lot more speed to find in the esses than what it seems... you have to force the issue a bit to get the times down thru there, while not over-driving it at the same time. It's tricky.

The hard banked hairpin after the esses (in this reverse configuration) is definitely a big challenge too, as is the next blind apex and L/R turn combination.

Come to think of it, the final hairpin is really tough too! Have to come up on the curbs big time, and not overdrive it, the time will come down if you do.

Seems this track is a tough challenge from start to finish!
 
there is definitely a lot more speed to find in the esses than what it seems... you have to force the issue a bit to get the times down thru there, while not over-driving it at the same time. It's tricky.

The hard banked hairpin after the esses (in this reverse configuration) is definitely a big challenge too, as is the next blind apex and L/R turn combination.

Come to think of it, the final hairpin is really tough too! Have to come up on the curbs big time, and not overdrive it, the time will come down if you do.

Seems this track is a tough challenge from start to finish!

Definitely a rythm track for me. That hard banked hairpin is the only turn I can't hit consistently, you need to run it wide and cut back in clipping the apex however most lobbies I've been in that's where most try and take inside so you're kind of forced into taking the line you don't want.

I'm on the rev limiter thru most of the track it really helps to not have to make that extra downshift. Down side to this is burns way too much fuel during actual race but really fast qualifying laps.
 
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Not a track that i'm particularly keen on in the reverse so not expecting anything.

Qualifying was a disaster with no good lap set leaving me to start in 19th. There was easily a second or more in my lap to be found.

Pitted from hards to mediums on lap 1 then to softs on lap 6. Quiet race for me overall, finished 15th despite being stone cold last at one point in the race. Not going to bother going again and I just hope that Kyoto will be better for me.
 
Anyone know what the one make for Nations on Saturday is?

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After work, I ate dinner and decided to take a short 30min nap... Right...
I sleep almost 2hours... Missed 3 slots, I guess its better even, I got time to do some warm up simulation... Question: you guys write about strategy 2 stops, anybody tried 1stop? Worth trying?
 
What’s the strategy for fia tonight? I’m feeling lucky and maggiore in reverse is crazy fun to drive.
I'm planning a stint in the Softs, and likely only the requisite lap on the H's, filled in my the M's which don't seem to wear badly on my Porsche in a simulation.

I can get by without fuel, if I'm careful, and given the short pit cycle, plan to be, to avoid refueling time lost behind the pit wall. A lap on the H's with the Fuel leaned out a bit should be plenty, in the 911 RSR. (Suspect your Ferrari uses a little more fuel, though?)

That said, I'm rubbish at this track, though I got an early Daily Race win or two at it, though I really enjoy it... so take it for what it's worth!
 
After work, I ate dinner and decided to take a short 30min nap... Right...
I sleep almost 2hours... Missed 3 slots, I guess its better even, I got time to do some warm up simulation... Question: you guys write about strategy 2 stops, anybody tried 1stop? Worth trying?

1 stop is a no go. I've seen a few pretty fast doing 3 stop but with RSR which is usually good on fuel couple more laps worth compared to my GT.

I'm thinking 7S 6M 1H maybe 8S depending on tirewear
 
1 stop is a no go. I've seen a few pretty fast doing 3 stop but with RSR which is usually good on fuel couple more laps worth compared to my GT.

I'm thinking 7S 6M 1H maybe 8S depending on tirewear
What were the 3-stops in the Porsche? S/S/1M/1H? Would seem to be the only way it makes sense, as tire wear is low and the gap from M to S's is substantial, and the pit delta penalty is short...
 
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Decent result but did blow it on the last corner :lol:

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Qualified 6th as I just couldn’t get the esses right. Started the race well and still couldn’t get the esses right for the first couple of laps but as soon as I started nailing it I worked my way up to 2nd. 1st pitted lap 6 and i led the race until I pit on lap 9 for Hards, then again lap 10 for Mediums. Came out in 4th. Car in 3rd was on Hards and on the very last corner I tried to get the better line to make a last ditch pass up the final straight but cut it just too much and got a penalty, losing 4th place because of it! :lol:
 
6S 6S 1M 1H these guys were smoking me though consistently 1:54s 1:55s


Must be nice on the fuel, lol. Idk whether I want to be fast or save fuel. Couple laps short.

...yeah, this is an example where I think the strategy for a human would be one thing, the aliens running 1:54's, getting the most from Softs, may want to run the double Soft stints... but for me, I may be better off with just the one set and milking the most from the required M's in the laps left over. I'll stick with that... great info- thanks!

Thanks all

As I’ve done no practice as usual I might go for the M1/H1/S/S. The Ferrari isn’t bad on fuel usually but I won’t know until the race :lol:

Not sure where I’ll qualify, if I make the top ten I might have to go for the 2 stop.

Good luck! I think it's a track that's relatively easy to save fuel on, without huge issues with pace or getting run over... the fast sweeping corners are easy to coast through while maintaining respectable speed. Good luck! (Jealous of the Ferrari drivers... I would have loved to race them but before the BoP changes they were just ...you know!)
 
...yeah, this is an example where I think the strategy for a human would be one thing, the aliens running 1:54's, getting the most from Softs, may want to run the double Soft stints... but for me, I may be better off with just the one set and milking the most from the required M's in the laps left over. I'll stick with that... great info- thanks!



Good luck! I think it's a track that's relatively easy to save fuel on, without huge issues with pace or getting run over... the fast sweeping corners are easy to coast through while maintaining respectable speed. Good luck! (Jealous of the Ferrari drivers... I would have loved to race them but before the BoP changes they were just ...you know!)


I think they ruined the Gr4 tbh, the Gr3 is still a bit :scared::scared::scared::scared:. Good fun though
 
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