Fidel Castro Dead

Johnnypenso
One dictator overthrows another. Survives hundreds of assassination attempts by his adoring public. Definitely something to admire. I wonder if there's a Castro bobblehead?
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Sounds like something an American voter says after going to the voting booth. "Well I mean yeah the person I voted for was bad...but the other guy holy moly was he worse!"
 
Tornado
Protip: When CNN announces your death with the word "despot" in the opening line, it tends to suggest you didn't live your life as the reincarnation of Mr. Rogers.
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I get my facts from books and lectures by historians and political scientists rather than CNN.
Johnnypenso
One dictator overthrows another.
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Read up on Batista and his reign.
 
Again, you might want to make a better argument than "Castro is so awesome because man that guy he replaced definitely sucked"; since the people mocking when you said it the first time didn't get through. Surely all of the books and lectures by historians and political scientists could have allowed you to put together one by now.
 
ryzno
I was going to post this.
RIP, not everyone liked him, but the family deserves condolences.
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Go **** yourself, dude.
This is a murderer, a tyrant, a thief, among the worst of humanity.

So for everyone saying RIP, I hope you mean in pieces, because this bastard should be dragged through the streets. They cannot cremate him quickly enough.

Vegard
That would seem like the obligation of someone accusing him of mass murder.
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🤬 you.
I don't even have time for your communist BS. This man has personally assassinated so many people, and jailed and killed countless others. You can cling to your conspiratoid BS over there in Norway, but people here have lived through hell.
 
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Omnis
Go **** yourself, dude.

This is a murderer, a tyrant, a thief, among the worst of humanity.

So for everyone saying RIP, I hope you mean in pieces, because this bastard should be dragged through the streets. They cannot cremate him quickly enough.



🤬 you. I don't even have time for your communist BS. This man has personally assassinated so many people, and jailed and killed countless others. You can cling to your conspiratoid BS over there in Norway, but people here have lived through hell.
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I have to be your release of anger?
You can go 🤬 yourself. I neither glorified him or demonized him. All I said is condolences to his family. I know exactly what he's done, I don't live in FL, but we have a good number of Cuban's here too...
 
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Anyways, I'm happy that his death has happened. He was a brutal dicator and didn't deserve to die so peacefully.
 
nascarfan1400
Everyone has their opinions. How about we all calm down, yes?
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I'm calm. His interpretation and response to my post pissed me off. I don't recall praising him like someone else... Or telling someone to " go 🤬 themselves".
 
Tornado
Again, you might want to make a better argument than "Castro is so awesome because man that guy he replaced definitely sucked"; since the people mocking when you said it the first time didn't get through.
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He kicked out the US puppet Batista, survived hundreds of US assassination attempts, and died of natural causes at 90.

Omnis
Go **** yourself, dude.

This is a murderer, a tyrant, a thief, among the worst of humanity.

So for everyone saying RIP, I hope you mean in pieces, because this bastard should be dragged through the streets. They cannot cremate him quickly enough.



🤬 you. I don't even have time for your communist BS. This man has personally assassinated so many people, and jailed and killed countless others. You can cling to your conspiratoid BS over there in Norway, but people here have lived through hell.
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Are you off your 🤬 meds?
 
Rage Racer
^Triggered. :sly:
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Yes, triggered. :)

ryzno
I have to be your release of anger?
You can go 🤬 yourself. I neither glorified him or demonized him. All I said is condolences to his family. I know exactly what he's done, I don't live in FL, but we have a good number of Cuban's here too...
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Yeah, I needed a release. Nothing personal, I'm attacking the idea that he and his family are some kind of angels. Honestly, I can't believe some of the narratives I have been reading by people that have no idea of the horrors of the revolution. Regardless of how they relate to Fulgencio, they are all marks on humanity. They do not deserve mourning.
 
Vegard
He kicked out the US puppet Batista, survived hundreds of US assassination attempts, and died of natural causes at 90.
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Hell, this guy deserves the medal of honor. Forget all the crimes he did commit. I mean, compared to Batista he might as well be a saint.

I didn't know the world's leaders were only supposed to be compared to this Batista, and not for their actual humanity. Castro was a madman. Hundreds of thousands suffered under his leadership, the world has brought to the brink of World War III, countless died in forced labor camps, assassinations, and outright terrorism. But compared to Batista.....................
 
It's interesting to me to see how intensely negative the opinion of Castro is in America compared to the general opinion in Canada which is far more of a mixed bag. I understand why he's hated in Miami, the Cubans there would be people who either fled his regime or were de facto expelled so it makes sense they'd hate him. It's just a bit surprising to me that there's such extreme hatred considering that the general opinion on this board of the US/NATO overthrowing Gaddafi/Assad seems to be more nuanced and less extreme, bordering on critical.

I don't think he's some benevolent saint but I respect the advancements a very poor country has made in universal literacy, education, health care (32nd worldwide in life expectancy according to the WHO), and how it's adjusted with sustainable urban agriculture after the fall of the USSR. Any island nation would suffer from being embargoed by its nearest trading partners, let alone when that neighbour is the largest economy in the world with orders of magnitude more economic influence.
Ken
the world has brought to the brink of World War III.
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Of course I wish the Cuban missile crisis didn't happen and it's a horrible event in world history but presenting it entirely as just something Castro did is overly reductive IMO. It didn't happen in a vacuum, it happened shortly after the Bay of Pigs invasion where a CIA led force invaded and tried to topple the regime. Whether or not you believe Castro's regime was legitimate, the reality is any regime in any country in history would have taken steps to ensure its survival if the global superpower next door had just embargoed and attempted an invasion.
 
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Vegard
He kicked out the US puppet Batista, survived hundreds of US assassination attempts, and died of natural causes at 90.
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Okay, so now the reasons that he's so great have gone up to "the guy he replaced definitely sucked, and he sure didn't die". You get that straight from your history and political science textbooks, or was that one from a lecture?

Joel
Just a bit surprising to me that there's such extreme hatred considering that the general opinion on this board of the US/NATO overthrowing Gaddafi/Assad seems to be more nuanced and less extreme
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I don't recall anyone claiming that Hussein or Gaddafi or Jong-il or any of those types being dead was a great loss to the world, even if they strongly disagreed with the situations that led to the actual event or expressed reservations of the fallout that would follow. Though there was a member who claimed that Hitler was overall pretty good for Germany, so I guess it takes all sorts.
 
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So the US tried killing him for over 50 years and failed, Trump gets elected an BOOM the guy is dead. Trump is not just making America great again, but all of North America!

Seriously though, I thought he was already dead. Hopefully the US continues to not do an embargo on Cuba and that way we can continue to import proper baseball players, decent cigars, and good rum.
 
Tornado
Okay, so now the reasons that he's so great have gone up to "the guy he replaced definitely sucked, and he sure didn't die". You get that straight from your history and political science textbooks, or was that one from a lecture?
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said he was "so great", I said I admired his courage in overthrowing a corrupt puppet regime that was raping the nation of Cuba.
 
Joel
It's interesting to me to see how intensely negative the opinion of Castro is in America compared to the general opinion in Canada which is far more of a mixed bag. I understand why he's hated in Miami, the Cubans there would be people who either fled his regime or were de facto expelled so it makes sense they'd hate him. Just a bit surprising to me that there's such extreme hatred considering that the general opinion on this board of the US/NATO overthrowing Gaddafi/Assad seems to be more nuanced and less extreme, especially considering that Guantanamo Bay stays open to this day.

I don't think he's some benevolent saint but I respect the advancements a very poor country has made in universal literacy, education, health care (32nd worldwide in life expectancy according to the WHO), and how it's adjusted with urban agriculture after the fall of the USSR. Any island nation would suffer from being embargoed by its nearest trading partners, let alone when that neighbour is the largest economy in the world with orders of magnitude more economic influence.

Of course I wish the Cuban missile crisis didn't happen and it's a horrible event in world history but presenting it entirely as just something Castro did is overly reductive IMO. It happened shortly after the Bay of Pigs invasion where a CIA led force invaded and tried to topple the regime. Whether or not you believe Castro's regime was legitimate, any regime in any country in history would have taken steps to ensure its survival if the global superpower next door had embargoed them and just tried to invade. Castro's Cuba did not pose an existential threat to America until the CIA demonstrated it posed an existential threat with the Bay of Pigs invasion.
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Reduced unemployment by 80% in 4 years.
Doubled production and income in 4 years.
Created the world's first major highway system.
Spearheaded great discoveries like synthetic rubber and nuclear fission.
Oversaw one of the largest and most comprehensive infrastructure creation programs in human history.

Perhaps we should have a national holiday for good old Adolph so we can sing his praises as well. No Jews, Gypsy's, Gays or Poles allowed though.
 
RIP :D

Honestly i don't know what to think of Fidel, many out there see him as a peoples revolutionary, others see him as a vicious tyrant. It's likely to remain that way in history books.

Jean Claude seemed to like him:

 
Omnis
Yeah, I needed a release.
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Which I'm sure you could have done without the following aggressive, profanity laden posts.

Omnis
Go **** yourself, dude.

🤬 you.
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Count yourself lucky I don't seem to have a warn button for a staff "emeritus".


ryzno
I don't recall praising him like someone else... Or telling someone to " go 🤬 themselves".
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Apart from here?

ryzno
You can go 🤬 yourself.
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It would seem we all need to calm down a tad.
 

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