First impressions PC2

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Pretty bad first day (actually second but the 12,9gb patch took ages to download).

T300 user.

Can't get the feel for it with serious issues in turning. After 2 hours i was only able to match AI in Ginetta junior at 70% difficulty but i have no confidence at all.

I find almost impossibile to drive road cars due to my steering input being totally messed up. Only default set-up tried.

Graphic wise on my standard PS4 looks nowhere near released footage. My fault, i saw too many PC/pro videos. My Sony 4k Say It is running in hdr.


Overall i didn't enjoy my first day cause i do not like to mess with the settings
 
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RacerDude08
I take it that graphics match PCARS1 at least correct? They were plenty good enough for me.
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Yes, i saw almost no difference. Sadly my standard PS4 doesn't keep-up.

I have a Sony 4k 49" Smart TV. So i launched the footages that Can be find on you tube. Night and day. But Hey it'ok, just looks outdated.
 
@paulpg87

totally wierd. See last page posts about calibration, just in case.

And wrt to g29 I'm not sure RAW/ROH is the default of if it should be used at all...

After proper calibration do try Tone slide opposites and see if there's a difference.

Then again, I know nothing about current gen consoles and hw compatibility.
 
RomKnight
@paulpg87

totally wierd. See last page posts about calibration, just in case.

And wrt to g29 I'm not sure RAW/ROH is the default of if it should be used at all...

After proper calibration do try Tone slide opposites and see if there's a difference.

Then again, I know nothing about current gen consoles and hw compatibility.
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Tomorrow i Will try to play with options and calibration then rely on the fantastic community here that surely Will provide good set-ups
 
Bealdor
You're doing it wrong. Turn the wheel completely to one side (100), confirm, now turn it to 90°. The value that's showing you 180 at the moment should now be 900 or very close to it.
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Something I realized too, about an hour ago. While the steering seems to translate 1:1 now (after correct calibration and playing a lot with the controller settings), FFB is still far from acceptable. Have been testing with the Seven 620R and the Lancer EVO VI to fine tune the steering. I can drive now, but it still feels very unnatural to me.
 
paulpg87
Pretty bad first day (actually second but the 12,9gb patch took ages to download).

T300 user.

Can't get the feel for it with serious issues in turning. After 2 hours i was only able to match AI in Ginetta junior at 70% difficulty but i have no confidence at all.

I find almost impossibile to drive road cars due to my steering input being totally messed up. Only default set-up tried.
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I use a G29. I found I had to set my wheel to the 'Raw' setting (i did think about using Immersive - havent been home to test). I also put the FFB up to 100.

By no means is this a perfect set up but I felt better driving with that than I did when I first dove into a race. First race i did I had almost no FFB and the whole thing was disapointing. Next few drives have been more fun.

I forgot to calibrate my wheel in game though - will give it a go tonight if i have the time.
 
default should be immersive or informative (don't remember) for logitech wheels.

I though ffb was already at 100. So do try that but I'm not sure RAW is the best... In my PC with a G27 I liked informative as I've found it more coherent across the board. Didn't change a thing but again I was sure GAIN was at 100 already...
 
Informative was the default. But I was driving with that setting before the 13gb update had been installed. FFB was at 50 so I tweaked it all the way up as everything was too light with out it.

I think I will take some time to find what I really like, I'll also wait and see what settings people recommend.

I think there is going to be benefit in having a wheel/accessories thread for everyone to share their settings and button assignments.
 
@RomKnight or anyone who may be able to help...

I cannot get the game to configure any buttons besides the keyboard.
My wheel (T300 w Ferrari F1 Rim) and pedals and botton box...the game does not respond to them at all.

Yes, they're connected and updated and work just fine in the Control Panel and they work as expected for other games.

It is as though my wheel, pedals and button box aren't there at all.

Any helpful hints as to what the issue might be?
 
crowhop
@RomKnight or anyone who may be able to help...

I cannot get the game to configure any buttons besides the keyboard.
My wheel (T300 w Ferrari F1 Rim) and pedals and botton box...the game does not respond to them at all.

Yes, they're connected and updated and work just fine in the Control Panel and they work as expected for other games.

It is as though my wheel, pedals and button box aren't there at all.

Any helpful hints as to what the issue might be?
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What happens if you try and set it up as a Custom Wheel, rather than letting the game autodetect it? I recall somebody in WMD2 having a similar type of combo (though I must confess, I didn't read it in depth, or the solution if any) and I know that was suggested.
 
Cluck
What happens if you try and set it up as a Custom Wheel, rather than letting the game autodetect it? I recall somebody in WMD2 having a similar type of combo (though I must confess, I didn't read it in depth, or the solution if any) and I know that was suggested.
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Nothing. Tried all sorts of different combos. Rebooted a few times too. Nothing.

I'll figure it out. It doesn't appear to be a wide-ranging issue. We'll see.

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UPDATE
I think I have it sorted.
Very strange. Steam had configured controller buttons. I disabled all of them. This seems to have been the culprit. Will update if anything further pops up.
But for the moment, crisis averted!


Here's the steps to take if you are experiencing a similar issue:

In Steam, go to:

STEAM > SETTINGS > CONTROLLER > GENERAL CONTROLLER SETTINGS

First, make sure all of your devices are listed there at the bottom.
Second, make sure you've disabled any of the check boxes.

Your screen should look like this:
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I got into a GT3 car (the R8 LMS 24h) since it was nearly impossible to drive them in Project Cars 1 on a controller/pad and I was eager to see if things had improved. And they have.

I didn't change anything with the setup, it was completely stock as by SMS' preferences. No driver aids was used (meaning no steering or braking assist), driving assist was set to authentic, tyre wear also authentic.

I could push with the R8 LMS and I could feel when the grip would get away from me and be able to ease off before losing control.

Had it been Project Cars 1 I would have spun every other corner. All GT3s were like that in PC1. The only cars I could drive with a pad in 1 were the formula cars and the Clio.

So 10/10 for the feel with a controller driving the R8 LMS.

I raced the R8 with 31 AI opponents at COTA with dry and sunny conditions. A quick four lap race with other classes present on the track. It felt like Project Cars 1 to be honest with regards to surroundings and graphics. No huge changes between the two titles (at least with the track conditions I had for this race).

There was no tearing or glitches, very smooth on the screen. The sensation of speed is lacking a little bit though.

Sound is awesome just like the first game.

I went and watched the replay afterwards and I immediately found the first bug.



@Johnnypenso You started a thread for glitches and bugs for Project Cars 1. What would be the best thing to do here?
 
JockeP22
@Johnnypenso You started a thread for glitches and bugs for Project Cars 1. What would be the best thing to do here?
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Seems like a hundred years ago:indiff:. I think it's a good idea to have one but best if someone else started it and maintained control. My schedule is too erratic these days for me to give any thread the attention it deserves.
 
Kovu
My first impression: horrible.

Almost undriveable with my G29. Set the sensitivity to 100% (while SMS recommends 50%) and still get serious understeering, same as no real feedback from the cars. It's my disappointment of the day. Hope they fix that in the next few days.
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This is the first negative comment I've seen in terms of physics. Everyone else seems to be singing it's praises.
 
Ok, some first impressions (PS4):

I did my usual thing of spending about 25 mins going through all the options before getting in a car... Calibrated my T300, stuck with the RAW FFB setting, mapped my buttons to the wheel, did some other small tweaks here and there, then got in the Merc 190E and loaded up Imola...

First thing I noticed I can't do is adjust the HUD elements with the wheel, have to turn the Dualshock on instead, unlike the first game, which is a minor irritation. Need to get my head around the new UI, especially the tuning screens, but that will come in time.

Then I started driving and literally the first thing I noticed was the jaggies everywhere. Not liking the anti-aliasing method at all, even the white lines on the side of the track don't look anywhere as solid as pCARS1, and neither do the trees.

On the plus side, driving with cold tyres is actually manageable! Felt good and reasonably grippy, which I'm very pleased about. In fact, the FFB felt good straight out of the box, perhaps even a bit stronger than I'm used to, but this can be tweaked of course. The default tune felt really good as well - far better than the default in pCARS1, so again, really good stuff. Won't stop me tuning of course but a good starting point nonetheless.

The AI let me down a bit, for the first several corners they were bunching up and crashing into each other and going way too slowly (AI on 85, aggression on 75). Work needed here.

Also the visual damage remains even upon a restart. That needs patching.

Oh and one thing that I just couldn't believe... I started adjusting the seat position in cockpit cam and it allowed me to move it back, through the drivers head, through the seat, then stopped in the back seat. I could also move it so far forward it went through the windshield and stopped near the front of the bonnet... I could also move the seat up through the roof.

So a lot of moaning from me... sorry. But now it's time for some more actual driving, which so far feels real good. Just a few niggles to iron out, and hopefully soon.
 
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bleeder
Then I started driving and literally the first thing I noticed was the jaggies everywhere. Not liking the anti-aliasing method at all, even the white lines on the side of the track don't look anywhere as solid as pCARS1, and neither do the trees.
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I noticed something along these lines, too.

To me it felt like someone pushed the sharpness slider up to 100.
 
I just put in some time using a pad and default settings felt almost as bad as pCARS 1, unfortunately. However, I then checked the Controller Settings thread and someone posted a video of the Johnson Racing guy showing his settings. I gave it a go and now the game is playable with a pad. Yes!

Now, I encountered some weird stuttering. So far did only time trial and community events. Basically, from time to time, the screen freezes and it stays frozen for a few seconds, then the game comes back and looks like the car was driving all this time. It doesn’t happen all the time but enough to be really annoying. As far as I understand there is no 1.3 patch for PC out yet (think I saw version 1.1 in the main menu) so I hope that patch 1.1 fixes this. Hope WMD members can confirm.

Otherwise, I got a lot of learning to do. First, all the new tracks and cars and also how to use a pad since I used mostly wheel with pCARS 1.
 
FuriousDemon
I just put in some time using a pad and default settings felt almost as bad as pCARS 1, unfortunately. However, I then checked the Controller Settings thread and someone posted a video of the Johnson Racing guy showing his settings. I gave it a go and now the game is playable with a pad. Yes!

Now, I encountered some weird stuttering. So far did only time trial and community events. Basically, from time to time, the screen freezes and it stays frozen for a few seconds, then the game comes back and looks like the car was driving all this time. It doesn’t happen all the time but enough to be really annoying. As far as I understand there is no 1.3 patch for PC out yet (think I saw version 1.1 in the main menu) so I hope that patch 1.1 fixes this. Hope WMD members can confirm.

Otherwise, I got a lot of learning to do. First, all the new tracks and cars and also how to use a pad since I used mostly wheel with pCARS 1.
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Can you post settings up please?

Also is knockhill 16 player online?
 
35mm
I noticed something along these lines, too.

To me it felt like someone pushed the sharpness slider up to 100.
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If your GPU can handle it, try setting Supersampling to Ultra (my GTX 1060 handles it nicely so far, with everything else at High, although I only did Time Trials so far) and the Post-process AA to SMAA Ultra too. If you like a more soft look, you may prefer FXAA at Ultra or the lower settings instead.

EDIT: Just realized you may be driving on the PS4 or XB1...
 
crowhop
Nothing. Tried all sorts of different combos. Rebooted a few times too. Nothing.

I'll figure it out. It doesn't appear to be a wide-ranging issue. We'll see.

EDIT:
UPDATE
I think I have it sorted.
Very strange. Steam had configured controller buttons. I disabled all of them. This seems to have been the culprit. Will update if anything further pops up.
But for the moment, crisis averted!
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That was it :D . It's one of those "when I read the solution, I'll remember it" things. My apologies for not being able to recall it earlier - it's hard to remember all the things I've read in the WMD2 forum over the last 2 years!
 
@Cluck
my first impression is that chickens could have left my hard earned record at Knockhill on the 'cat alone... :P my first time on the car as well.

/OT though, is it me or the BAC is a monster? I love it... on the semi.slicks at least :D FFB on this one is something that everyone should experience I think. Try it around Long Beach and then on Portimao and Brno and...
 
Johnnypenso
I doubt very much it's a physics issue. Wheel setup, tuning, or both.
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Today - when I started my PS4 pro - there was an error report message (sadly I was dumb enough to click through it instead of noting the error code). I now started pCARS2 - and everything seems to be fine. Took the F40 LM for some first laps at Imola and it actually feels great! The pedals finally behave like expected too.

There must have been a system issue with the game.
 
I couldn't get the ffb right on my Fanatec CSR to feel right at all. I had to set the sliders all the way to the right to get any kind of feel, regardless of which "flavor" I tried. And there was no wheel vibration at all, which as anyone who owns this particular wheel will tell you just feels dead without it. And while the snap oversteer that plagued the first game has been mitigated somewhat, it's still there and still super annoying. And what happened to the 'ring? It seems so bland and lifeless compared to PC1. Yeah, not real impressed with the graphics tbh. I'm going to refund this puppy and maybe rebuy it during the Steam winter sale, after it's been patched to hell and back.
 

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