FITT: Blind Tuning Challenge! Congrats to Bowtie-muscle & Otaliema! Tuners Revealed!!

Lionheart2113
The Duel
Blind Tuner Challenge

Track:
Grand Valley East (Reverse)

Car(s):
Honda S2000 '06
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07

Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5

DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission

Tuner 1 RX-8
Time: 1:11.060
DC Score: 8.5
Generally more on the loose side, especially under hard braking. Not bad if sliding around is what you are good at. Not that I'm good at loose setups, but my straight line braking style does help.

Tuner 2 S2000
Time: 1:11.991
DC Score: 7.5
It likes to slide around, nothing too crazy, and I question the stock transmission. There is a lot to be gained by tuning the trans especially with the Honda being the underdog. It felt sluggish to me but that could be me and that I drive an automatic trans.

Tuner 3 RX-8
Time: 1:11.083
DC Score: 8.5
It didn't feel very agile or nimble on its feet, but it was stable and safe. This kind of tune is done by someone who makes cars for a wide range of drivers....now who does a lot of tunes?

Tuner 4 RX-8
Time: 1:10.920
DC Score: 9.5
A car like this is why you drive! I really liked that this car suited the driver, if you are average, it will stay under you and give you confidence lap after lap. Push it more and it will gladly agree. This car can be wicked fast in the hands of better drivers.:bowdown:

Tuner 5 S2000
Time: 1:11.581
DC Score: 8.5
A little loose, but still a joy to drive. Even with it being a Honda!:sly: A very solid tune.

Tuner 6 RX-8
Time: 1:11.104
DC Score: 8.5
Another good tune that can be enjoyed by all. I felt as if there was a little something missing to make this car spectacular. If I was a better tuner, I might be able to suggest what to do...:dunce:

Tuner 7 RX-8
Time: 1:10.875
DC Score: 9.0
This car felt like it had been put through a technical tuning process. It was very precise on throttle and steering inputs. I like this one, and for a while it was the car to beat time wise.:cheers:

Tuner 8 S2000
Time: 1:11.472
DC Score: 8.5
You actually felt as if this is how a car would handle in real life as it bounced and moved around the track. It could push on entry if you launched yourself into the corners, but easily managed.

Tuner 9 RX-8
Time: 1:11.859
DC Score: 9.0
Amazing tune, agile and quick around the turns! But this car drove you, not the other way around. This car has attitude and a personality all its own. If it wasn't so stubborn it would have gotten a near perfect score.

Tuner 10 RX-8
Time: 1:10.243
DC Score: 9.5
Whoever tuned this car truly understood what can make a car quick around a particular track. The suspension was excellent and allowed you to take advantage of the quick sections of GVE reverse. Turns 1-4 were eaten up by this car. Before the fastest lap was set, it was easily doing 10.5xxs until I took it over the curbs and set a time that shocked me. I dub this tuner.... Evil Genius.:odd:

Tuner 11 S2000
Time: 1:12.411
DC Score: 7.0
I struggled finding speed in this car. My only guess would be the extra 50Kg. It was easy to drive but down the long stretch I watched previous ghosts pull away.

Great job tuners, as always you guys did an amazing job creating cars better than the stock settings.:cheers:
👍👍👍

As for the guesses, I submitted a copy of them to Bowtie yesterday, but I will post them here in a day or so. Until then, I'm looking forward to other tests and guesses maybe put doubts in the minds of my other testing competitors!:cool:
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Excellent times again, very consistent and fair reviews. I look forward to seeing your guesses as to which tune belongs to which tuner.
 
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

​
Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
 
Bowtie-muscle
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

​
Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
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Thank you very much for the review, some great times in there :cheers:
 
Bowtie-muscle
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

​
Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
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Nice going my friend 👍, these times are pretty close and your driving is damn good :scared:, I can only say I like the review but disagree on something, or was it I disagree on something I like in the review, or yes this is it, I like to disagree with something in the review :lol: . I'm just pulling your leg :sly:, great work 👍.
 
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Bowtie-muscle
Now comes the part I dread, guessing who was who. All the tunes were so close it is hard to tell but I have to try. Confident I can go 6/7(wrong):dopey:

Tuner #1 - @demonchilde

Tuner #2 - @mgo

Tuner #3 - @xande1959

Tuner #4 - @DolHaus

Tuner #5 - @Otaliema

Tuner #6 - @TurnLeft

And by process of elimination:

Tuner #7 - @nijalninja
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, well guessing is guessing
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, so now your down to 4/7, still not bad though :lol:.
 
Bowtie-muscle
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

​
Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
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Bowtie-muscle
Now comes the part I dread, guessing who was who. All the tunes were so close it is hard to tell but I have to try. Confident I can go 6/7(wrong):dopey:

Tuner #1 - @demonchilde

Tuner #2 - @mgo

Tuner #3 - @xande1959

Tuner #4 - @DolHaus

Tuner #5 - @Otaliema

Tuner #6 - @TurnLeft

And by process of elimination:

Tuner #7 - @nijalninja
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Thank you for the kind words on the review it brings me great satisfaction knowing you had fun :).
Interesting guesses time will tell How many you got right.
 
CSLACR
Ah well. GTPlanet just reminded me why I hate GTPlanet. Maybe I'll see you guys on another site. Sorry to withdraw, just lost the motivation.
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Sorry to see you step out. If you find the motivation to test by all means post your results. or PM me your results.
My you find peace in life and racing. Be well sir.

Lionheart2113
The Duel
Blind Tuner Challenge

Track:
Grand Valley East (Reverse)

Car(s):
Honda S2000 '06
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07

Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5

DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission

Tuner 1 RX-8
Time: 1:11.060
DC Score: 8.5
Generally more on the loose side, especially under hard braking. Not bad if sliding around is what you are good at. Not that I'm good at loose setups, but my straight line braking style does help.

Tuner 2 S2000
Time: 1:11.991
DC Score: 7.5
It likes to slide around, nothing too crazy, and I question the stock transmission. There is a lot to be gained by tuning the trans especially with the Honda being the underdog. It felt sluggish to me but that could be me and that I drive an automatic trans.

Tuner 3 RX-8
Time: 1:11.083
DC Score: 8.5
It didn't feel very agile or nimble on its feet, but it was stable and safe. This kind of tune is done by someone who makes cars for a wide range of drivers....now who does a lot of tunes?

Tuner 4 RX-8
Time: 1:10.920
DC Score: 9.5
A car like this is why you drive! I really liked that this car suited the driver, if you are average, it will stay under you and give you confidence lap after lap. Push it more and it will gladly agree. This car can be wicked fast in the hands of better drivers.:bowdown:

Tuner 5 S2000
Time: 1:11.581
DC Score: 8.5
A little loose, but still a joy to drive. Even with it being a Honda!:sly: A very solid tune.

Tuner 6 RX-8
Time: 1:11.104
DC Score: 8.5
Another good tune that can be enjoyed by all. I felt as if there was a little something missing to make this car spectacular. If I was a better tuner, I might be able to suggest what to do...:dunce:

Tuner 7 RX-8
Time: 1:10.875
DC Score: 9.0
This car felt like it had been put through a technical tuning process. It was very precise on throttle and steering inputs. I like this one, and for a while it was the car to beat time wise.:cheers:

Tuner 8 S2000
Time: 1:11.472
DC Score: 8.5
You actually felt as if this is how a car would handle in real life as it bounced and moved around the track. It could push on entry if you launched yourself into the corners, but easily managed.

Tuner 9 RX-8
Time: 1:11.859
DC Score: 9.0
Amazing tune, agile and quick around the turns! But this car drove you, not the other way around. This car has attitude and a personality all its own. If it wasn't so stubborn it would have gotten a near perfect score.

Tuner 10 RX-8
Time: 1:10.243
DC Score: 9.5
Whoever tuned this car truly understood what can make a car quick around a particular track. The suspension was excellent and allowed you to take advantage of the quick sections of GVE reverse. Turns 1-4 were eaten up by this car. Before the fastest lap was set, it was easily doing 10.5xxs until I took it over the curbs and set a time that shocked me. I dub this tuner.... Evil Genius.:odd:

Tuner 11 S2000
Time: 1:12.411
DC Score: 7.0
I struggled finding speed in this car. My only guess would be the extra 50Kg. It was easy to drive but down the long stretch I watched previous ghosts pull away.

Great job tuners, as always you guys did an amazing job creating cars better than the stock settings.:cheers:
👍👍👍

As for the guesses, I submitted a copy of them to Bowtie yesterday, but I will post them here in a day or so. Until then, I'm looking forward to other tests and guesses maybe put doubts in the minds of my other testing competitors!:cool:
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Times entered sir please cross check them when you get a chance make sure I didn't dyslexic switch or go cross eyed.

Bowtie-muscle
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

​
Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
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Times entered sir please cross check them when you get a chance make sure I didn't dyslexic switch or go cross eyed.

@DolHaus @Bowtie-muscle Sorry posting now I am going to double post with an updated leader board.
 
Leader Board for both classes.
Dual Class

GVE R Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #10 1:10.744 +00.000
2 Tuner #7 1:10.804 +00.061
3 Tuner #4 1:10.943 +00.199
4 Tuner #6 1:11.006 +00.262
5 Tuner #3 1:11.036 +00.292
Looks like Tuner 10 and Tuner 7 are scrapping it out for the top spot while Tuner 3 is holding a solid lead over Tuner 6.

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #7 9.33
2 Tuner #9 8.77
3 Tuner #4 8.73
4 Tuner #6 8.50
5 Tuner #10 8.37
Tuner 7 is the clear crowd favorite, with clean lines and fast driving he is earning the respect of the fans today. But it looks like the loose and fast style that Tuner 10 has taken with his racing might not be winning style points but it has him in a solid lead for the over all win today.

Fastest Lap at GVE R
1:10.243; Tuner #10's tune Driven By Lionheart2113

Time Attack

Tsukuba Lap Time Podium
1 Tuner #5 0:55.569 +0.000
2 Tuner #3 0:55.584 +0.015
3 Tuner #1 0:55.682 +0.113
4 Tuner #6 0:55.755 +0.186
5 Tuner #4 0:55.766 +0.197
Looks like Tuner 5 and Tuner 3 are swapping paint in every turn on the track, are rubbin down to the line, gonna be a tight fight for the top spot. Tuner 1 and Tuner 6 are fighting for the 3rd place spot. This will be interesting folks stay tuned!

Drivers Choice Podium
1 Tuner #5 9.03
2 Tuner #3 9.00
3 Tuner #1 8.90
4 Tuner #4 8.70
5 Tuner #7 8.50
Tuner 5 and Tuner 3 are really winning over everyone with this race, both fighting hard and winning style and overall today. Its going to come down to the last turn one this one. Who will get the better line and take the win???

Fastest Lap at Tsukuba
0:55.191; Tuner #3's tune Driven By Bowtie-Muscle

Pardon the color commentary I'm running on 3 1/2 hours of sleep so my mind is in silly land today. :cheers:
 
Bowtie-muscle
GT300 Time Attack Review
By Bowtie-muscle

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Please read FIRST:
Each tune was given 15-20 laps to get the best lap possible, some more some less. In general, I really liked all of the tunes and found it very difficult to separate them. I found the IS350 to have a tendency to oversteer on exit, the BRZ to understeer on exit. These were at differing corners however, some tunes had a blend of both. The IS350s were tested first, then the BRZs, followed by a quick retest of each IS350.

Tested with DS3, M/T, ABS 1 - Arcade Mode with grip set to REAL.

This track, though seemingly easy, has never been one of my better tracks for whatever reason. If my times seem off compared to your own, it could be the driver and the track, not necessarily your tune. I did try and get the most out of each. :)


Tuner #1: BRZ
Lap time - 55.549
DC - 8.5

Quick, very quick, and easy to be consistent. Smooth on exit but with power understeer most notable on the final corner. Nice tune, nice job. :)


Tuner #2: IS350
Lap Time - 55.804
DC - 8.0

Nice turn in and good brakes. The gears were a little shorter than I would have liked but overall helped and did not hurt. Typically, loose on exit was the challenge and curbs were not it's friend(But this was with all the tunes not just yours). I liked it alot but struggled with time. Original time was 56.044, during the retest I had laps od 55.068 and .069 within 5laps. Shows how easy the tune was to get a handle on. Best lap cam on retest lap #7(final lap) Really nice effort!👍


Tuner #3: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.191
DC - 9.5

Simply lovely tune:D:D
Could have been the only tune under 55.000 if not for the driver. Excellent Job.

Tuner #4: IS350
Lap Time - 55.696
DC - 9.0

My favorite of the IS350s, fun tune, really fun tune. Unfortunately the car suffered from oversteer on exit that came out of nowhere. Grip-Grip-Grip-Goodbye and slide sideways. When I managed to tame it, the lap time improved. Could find some mild power understeer, not bad but present. There is a better time lurking in this one for sure, hope another tester finds it for whoever you are.


Tuner #5: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.195
DC - 9.3

Almost as good as Tuner #3, almost. Smooth and consistent with slightly higher lap average. Second fastest lap was 55.197. Found the trans WEIRD to set, really nice and it worked, but weird. Who does tranny testing I wonder?:confused:


Tuner #6: BRZ
Lap Time - 55.401
DC - 9.0

Really good and stable tune, only issue was it was a bit slower than the two top BRZs. First lap was faster than any other tunes first lap.


Tuner #7: IS350
Lap Time - 55.967
DC - 8.0

Perhaps too much front brake, entry was critical and had more mid-corner understeer than the others. Gearing was wide to help with exit and did, but Maybe too high on LSD accel?(MAYBE):confused:.....This car was hurt by the grip bug, there than gone on exit. Kept feeling a better lap was coming but it never did, even the retest did not lower the best lap altough I matched it several times. Put more laps in this tune than any other trying to get more. Not a bad tune at all, just likely not a good mix with my style and ability although a really gave it my all. Slowest in the field but not too far off.👍 Let's hope another tuner gets more for you than I could. Great Effort whoever you are.
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Thanks for the review.
Bowtie-muscle
Now comes the part I dread, guessing who was who. All the tunes were so close it is hard to tell but I have to try. Confident I can go 6/7(wrong):dopey:

Tuner #1 - @demonchilde

Tuner #2 - @mgo

Tuner #3 - @xande1959

Tuner #4 - @DolHaus

Tuner #5 - @Otaliema

Tuner #6 - @TurnLeft

And by process of elimination:

Tuner #7 - @nijalninja
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*insert poker face here*
 
Lionheart2113
The Duel
Blind Tuner Challenge

Track:
Grand Valley East (Reverse)

Car(s):
Honda S2000 '06
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07

Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5

DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission

Tuner 1 RX-8
Time: 1:11.060
DC Score: 8.5
Generally more on the loose side, especially under hard braking. Not bad if sliding around is what you are good at. Not that I'm good at loose setups, but my straight line braking style does help.

Tuner 2 S2000
Time: 1:11.991
DC Score: 7.5
It likes to slide around, nothing too crazy, and I question the stock transmission. There is a lot to be gained by tuning the trans especially with the Honda being the underdog. It felt sluggish to me but that could be me and that I drive an automatic trans.

Tuner 3 RX-8
Time: 1:11.083
DC Score: 8.5
It didn't feel very agile or nimble on its feet, but it was stable and safe. This kind of tune is done by someone who makes cars for a wide range of drivers....now who does a lot of tunes?

Tuner 4 RX-8
Time: 1:10.920
DC Score: 9.5
A car like this is why you drive! I really liked that this car suited the driver, if you are average, it will stay under you and give you confidence lap after lap. Push it more and it will gladly agree. This car can be wicked fast in the hands of better drivers.:bowdown:

Tuner 5 S2000
Time: 1:11.581
DC Score: 8.5
A little loose, but still a joy to drive. Even with it being a Honda!:sly: A very solid tune.

Tuner 6 RX-8
Time: 1:11.104
DC Score: 8.5
Another good tune that can be enjoyed by all. I felt as if there was a little something missing to make this car spectacular. If I was a better tuner, I might be able to suggest what to do...:dunce:

Tuner 7 RX-8
Time: 1:10.875
DC Score: 9.0
This car felt like it had been put through a technical tuning process. It was very precise on throttle and steering inputs. I like this one, and for a while it was the car to beat time wise.:cheers:

Tuner 8 S2000
Time: 1:11.472
DC Score: 8.5
You actually felt as if this is how a car would handle in real life as it bounced and moved around the track. It could push on entry if you launched yourself into the corners, but easily managed.

Tuner 9 RX-8
Time: 1:11.859
DC Score: 9.0
Amazing tune, agile and quick around the turns! But this car drove you, not the other way around. This car has attitude and a personality all its own. If it wasn't so stubborn it would have gotten a near perfect score.

Tuner 10 RX-8
Time: 1:10.243
DC Score: 9.5
Whoever tuned this car truly understood what can make a car quick around a particular track. The suspension was excellent and allowed you to take advantage of the quick sections of GVE reverse. Turns 1-4 were eaten up by this car. Before the fastest lap was set, it was easily doing 10.5xxs until I took it over the curbs and set a time that shocked me. I dub this tuner.... Evil Genius.:odd:

Tuner 11 S2000
Time: 1:12.411
DC Score: 7.0
I struggled finding speed in this car. My only guess would be the extra 50Kg. It was easy to drive but down the long stretch I watched previous ghosts pull away.

Great job tuners, as always you guys did an amazing job creating cars better than the stock settings.:cheers:
👍👍👍

As for the guesses, I submitted a copy of them to Bowtie yesterday, but I will post them here in a day or so. Until then, I'm looking forward to other tests and guesses maybe put doubts in the minds of my other testing competitors!:cool:
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All good times again, from both you and @Bowtie-muscle (forgot to multi quote!) good effort guys.
 
Otaliema
Sorry to see you step out. If you find the motivation to test by all means post your results. or PM me your results.
My you find peace in life and racing. Be well sir.


Times entered sir please cross check them when you get a chance make sure I didn't dyslexic switch or go cross eyed.


Times entered sir please cross check them when you get a chance make sure I didn't dyslexic switch or go cross eyed.

@DolHaus @Bowtie-muscle Sorry posting now I am going to double post with an updated leader board.
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At a quick glance, they all look good:tup:

demonchilde
wait, I thought I was a ninja?
oh wait, what?
Thanks for calling me #1, even if thats not what you meant :)
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Your name came out of the hat first:dopey:........toss up between tune #1 and the Black Tune #7, #1 felt like it might be right and the hat said yes.:lol:
biffa3
All good times again, from both you and @Bowtie-muscle (forgot to multi quote!) good effort guys.
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Thank you 'ol Wise Tester, trying to match your standard.:)
 
how muxh more time do we have? (yes I am being lazy, lol)
actually, I'm not home and just quick checking here and there on my phone. I'm half done, but only work today thru Wednesday and have a 4 day weekend. hoping to finish my end then.
Oh, and if you didn't feel like a bat out of hell duct taped to dynamite with the fuse lit, it might not be my tune :)
 
demonchilde
how muxh more time do we have? (yes I am being lazy, lol)
actually, I'm not home and just quick checking here and there on my phone. I'm half done, but only work today thru Wednesday and have a 4 day weekend. hoping to finish my end then.
Oh, and if you didn't feel like a bat out of hell duct taped to dynamite with the fuse lit, it might not be my tune :)
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A bit less than 2 weeks left for testing I believe, we left a week between tuning and testing just in case we had any problems but it all went smoothly so it added nearly a week of testing time 👍
 
demonchilde
how muxh more time do we have? (yes I am being lazy, lol)
actually, I'm not home and just quick checking here and there on my phone. I'm half done, but only work today thru Wednesday and have a 4 day weekend. hoping to finish my end then.
Oh, and if you didn't feel like a bat out of hell duct taped to dynamite with the fuse lit, it might not be my tune :)
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Deadline is the 21st, you have plenty of time, almost too much time.

No tune felt quite like that, not enough horsepower. Now the Car of the Month......maybe.:crazy:
 
Well, better now than later. Here are my guesses for the tuners... As you can see most cars had a few possibles, but some just screamed a particular tuner to me from past FITT testing. And sorry if I have offended you in any way @DrEmmettBrown as I've not driven a car from you until now.:ouch:

Tuner 1 @brian wolf
2legit / Brian

Tuner 2 @DrEmmettBrown
Gino / Emmitt

Tuner 3 @shaunm80
Shaun

Tuner 4 @praiano63
Praiano / xande

Tuner 5 @DaBomm4
Brian / 2legit / DaBomm

Tuner 6 @Bowtie-muscle
Xande / Bowtie

Tuner 7 @xande1959
Xande / Brian / DaBomm

Tuner 8 @Ridox2JZGTE
Ridox

Tuner 9 @ImToLegitToQuit
2legit / mystery

Tuner 10
Emmitt / Mystery / 2legit

Tuner 11 @Gino Caberlin
Ridox / Gino

As far as the mystery tuner, I think it would be fair to guess after we know which tune is theirs. I've gone through all sorts of possibles from @ugabugaz @MrGrado @Motor City Hami @danbojte and its tough to say without knowing the car atleast!
 
Lionheart2113
Well, better now than later. Here are my guesses for the tuners... As you can see most cars had a few possibles, but some just screamed a particular tuner to me from past FITT testing. And sorry if I have offended you in any way @DrEmmettBrown as I've not driven a car from you until now.:ouch:

Tuner 1 @brian wolf
2legit / Brian

Tuner 2 @DrEmmettBrown
Gino / Emmitt

Tuner 3 @shaunm80
Shaun

Tuner 4 @praiano63
Praiano / xande

Tuner 5 @DaBomm4
Brian / 2legit / DaBomm

Tuner 6 @Bowtie-muscle
Xande / Bowtie

Tuner 7 @xande1959
Xande / Brian / DaBomm

Tuner 8 @Ridox2JZGTE
Ridox

Tuner 9 @ImToLegitToQuit
2legit / mystery

Tuner 10
Emmitt / Mystery / 2legit

Tuner 11 @Gino Caberlin
Ridox / Gino

As far as the mystery tuner, I think it would be fair to guess after we know which tune is theirs. I've gone through all sorts of possibles from @ugabugaz @MrGrado @Motor City Hami @danbojte and its tough to say without knowing the car atleast!
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WOW :bowdown:, perfect score 👍👍👍, 100% of
A) All Right
B) All Wrong

fun wasn't it, now the not fun part, waiting :grumpy:.
 

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