I haven't purchased a wheel yet have controllerok will try on jeff Gordon as well ... thanks again jules283 ... let me know about the other cars
any estamite on when you will get this going?I was thinking of a single track, but staying with the Fireblade at Monaco. I think that was even closer if I remember correctly.
Sorry it's taking so long. RL is keeping me busy with the kids out of school right now and more work. Ive run about 8 tracks but none were closer than a second.
Have a great vacation!My family vacation starts next week. Go ahead with yours. I'll have mine ready after yours.
Enjoy your trip safe travels, I just got just got back from a mommy and daddy weekend get wayMy family vacation starts next week. Go ahead with yours. I'll have mine ready after yours.
I've only tried a few times but didn't find I was having to learn anything new or drastic to suit ABS 0 so it shouldn't be too hard for those who maybe haven't tried it to adapt.@Ridox2JZGTE it is your turn to host a FITT Challenge. How about one for ABS 0. Let's get to the bottom things. Is it really all that different to tune for ABS 0. If it is, how?
I was thinking that track selection should pick one with a number of braking zones. Should it be one car and each tuner builds an ABS 1 and an ABS 0 tune? Or should car choice be left open.
You are the man to run this one. What do you say?
@Ridox2JZGTE it is your turn to host a FITT Challenge. How about one for ABS 0. Let's get to the bottom things. Is it really all that different to tune for ABS 0. If it is, how?
I was thinking that track selection should pick one with a number of braking zones. Should it be one car and each tuner builds an ABS 1 and an ABS 0 tune? Or should car choice be left open.
You are the man to run this one. What do you say?
Here are some of the ideas :
ABS 0 tune will have some limitation :
1. No ride height difference allowed
2. LSD values must be above 15
ABS 1 tune limitation :
1. Ride height difference at 30 maximum
2. LSD values must be above 15
Why all of the limitations? ABS should be the only required difference between the tunes. This is the problem that I have always had with the ABS 0 "only" crowd. There are always qualifications to why ABS 0 is better and to why no one else can possibly know how to tune if they built from ABS 1. So lets just add in no ballast tuning, well, because that will somehow be seen as a driving aid, yet is very real world. And no LSD values under a certain amount to reduce the effectiveness of the LSD. And no use of ride height though it produces results in the game. And no wide brake balance split. And no crazy damper settings. And no use of high down force because that is a cheat now. And only racing tires because no other tire truly allows for proper settings. And no brake pedal mods like bungees or the Nixim or the perfect pedal. And no test drivers with less than 100 hours of experience driving ABS 0. Where does it end?
When two guys with cars are bragging about how much car they have, at some point, someone has to say, let's line them up and have a go.
the limitation aim is to isolate the changes to suspension and LSD only.
Oh, well, I already guess your response would be like this
I have an idea for a challenge but I need to do the balancing first, I think I have one group sorted but need to test the othersHmm ABS 0 challenge sounds like fun. I've toyed with it but never went head first .
I'll just put this out there if there is anyone that wants to host an event but doesn't want to do the back end work, I'll do it.
I spend my days chasing two toddlers, so it's a nice way to work out my brain and I have the time to do it. Weekends are the only time I can't post or check regularly here.
I never paid attention to the ABS 0 crowd so I don't know the whole history of it, but sounds like the most vocal people where a bit "elitist" would that be a fair statement?
Interesting idea but I suspect it would be ridiculously difficult to organise and execute. Way too much room for error and it would be impossible to "win" because of different driving styles and ability.I have an idea for the next challenge IF @Ronald6 is not quite ready to launch his:
Improve My Looney Tune!
I will post a tune(not already posted) and play Guinea Pig. Tuners will be allowed to change suspension, LSD, and trans settings only. Testers must drive The Pig first and then try to beat it, then retest The Pig last. Parts cannot be changed, added or taken away. Just need some one *cough* (Otaliema?) to handle scoring for me.
Thoughts?
The only real difference is the host (me) would be posting my tune first, other tuners would still post theirs. It would be a 1 car shootout, host verses the field. Testers would still decide it by time, not whether or not it beats The Pig necessarily. The only real difference is the host chooses the parts. Maybe just test the host tune last only?Interesting idea but I suspect it would be ridiculously difficult to organise and execute. Way too much room for error and it would be impossible to "win" because of different driving styles and ability.
Everyone is generally faster in their own car and unless yours was all but perfect it would be quite easy to improve on.
There is also the issue of some drivers being both amazing tuners and drivers and that only opens the divide further because they can really mess up the scoring, personally I don't think tuners should test their own cars in these sort of events anyway.
It sounds like an overly complicated way of doing a one car fixed spec shootout to be honest mateThe only real difference is the host (me) would be posting my tune first, other tuners would still post theirs. It would be a 1 car shootout, host verses the field. Testers would still decide it by time, not whether or not it beats The Pig necessarily. The only real difference is the host chooses the parts. Maybe just test the host tune last only?
Fair enough.It sounds like an overly complicated way of doing a one car fixed spec shootout to be honest mate
Hmm ABS 0 challenge sounds like fun. I've toyed with it but never went head first .
I'll just put this out there if there is anyone that wants to host an event but doesn't want to do the back end work, I'll do it.
I spend my days chasing two toddlers, so it's a nice way to work out my brain and I have the time to do it. Weekends are the only time I can't post or check regularly here.
I never paid attention to the ABS 0 crowd so I don't know the whole history of it, but sounds like the most vocal people where a bit "elitist" would that be a fair statement?
Clutch??? What the 🤬 is a clutch? Automatic user all the way...so does that mean I get a handicap because of it? But to be fair, I would say "most" match what you described. There are few that use it because it matches their style and say nothing more about it. I like them!In my opinion, yes, that is a very fair statement. It seems like those that choose to run with ABS 0 like to think that they are better than anyone else and come across like they are really doing something special. Its kinda like they look down upon those of use that do use ABS and it gets quite irritating at times reading some of this stuff that these people say. In my opinion, ABS 0 in this game is nowhere close to real life, regardless of what those that use it try to make others believe. Sure, it gives you a different type of challenge in the game, but that's the only thing it does. It doesn't make you any better than someone else who does use ABS. I get so sick and tired of seeing these people constantly reminding us that they are ABS 0 drivers and coming off like they are doing something special. Same goes for the ones that constantly remind everyone that they only use the clutch.
Sorry for the rant, but you asked @Otaliema Just giving you my point of view.
Clutch??? What the 🤬 is a clutch? Automatic user all the way...so does that mean I get a handicap because of it? But to be fair, I would say "most" match what you described. There are few that use it because it matches their style and say nothing more about it. I like them!
Well, you are a better driver than me and most, so you probably spend more time in the elite rooms and deal with this discussion on a more frequent basis.You are right and I stand corrected on that. 👍 I didn't mean to group them all together like that and I will edit my post accordingly. Thanks for high lighting my mistake. 👍