FITT Old Vs. New Hatchback Challenge

[Woodski_427]

So with @sinof1337 entering at the last minute, that means if we get all tunes, and run 10 laps per car, we will be looking at 380 laps at Côte d' Azure. average of say 2:00 a lap *factoring in things going horribly wrong every few laps pushing the cars hard* 12:40 of track time plus 3:10 build time *five minutes per car* almost 16 hours to test......yessh I think we might need a bit more time @Motor City Hami. I missing my morning drive time keeping on eye on my son, mystery bug bite wanted to make sure it wasn't serious. It's not so no need to panic.

3 hours a day drive time for me 6 week days to test I don't play on weekends. I think I might have to bribe my kids to let me play longer in the morning

Yeah, dunno what I was thinking , even with 5 or 6 laps per car, I don't think I'd be close to getting this lot done (I normally get about 5 or 6 hours a week, and that's with kids distracting me). I'll have to pick a few and give them a run.

Good luck guys, I'll be watching with interest 👍

 

[fordracer]

Hami did add a week to testing if that helps you out any.

 

[shaunm80]

Hami did add a week to testing if that helps you out any.

Testing ends on 31/5 right? Or did I miss a post update at some point in the past week or so.

 

[fordracer]

Changed last night to June 7 at midnigjt. Edit of origional post on page 1.

 

[shaunm80]

Changed last night to June 7 at midnigjt. Edit of origional post on page 1.

Okie dokie. Thanks for the update.

 

[Motor City Hami]

@krenkme - Your Life Step Van does not list oil change. I know that your PS3 is packed away for the move. Are there any issues if we add oil change. Anyone know if this will mess with the transmission settings?

 

[Otaliema]

@krenkme - Your Life Step Van does not list oil change. I know that your PS3 is packed away for the move. Are there any issues if we add oil change. Anyone know if this will mess with the transmission settings?

I'll check today, prolly an hour and I'll have an answer I don't think it will as it doesn't add RPM just power and torque

 

[DaBomm4]

Yeah, dunno what I was thinking , even with 5 or 6 laps per car, I don't think I'd be close to getting this lot done (I normally get about 5 or 6 hours a week, and that's with kids distracting me). I'll have to pick a few and give them a run.

Good luck guys, I'll be watching with interest 👍

You could try your best and post reviews as you finish some tunes, and if you finish all the tunes just write a post that they are done so Hami can add them to the calculation.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Gonna be crowded in Monaco with all the testing that will be going on

 

[Otaliema]

@krenkme - Your Life Step Van does not list oil change. I know that your PS3 is packed away for the move. Are there any issues if we add oil change. Anyone know if this will mess with the transmission settings?

No problems with transmission on building with or with an oil change on the car 👍

 

[macdog54]

I'll check today, prolly an hour and I'll have an answer I don't think it will as it doesn't add RPM just power and torque

I gave it another go last night with the oil change, no problems with the transmission , no roll overs, all it did was make it a lot quicker.

 

[Brewguy44]

Is it to late to enter my tunes? I got so busy with @Thorin Cain & @TurnLeft with the release of our New Tune from our garage Elegance Automotive Guild . I just forgot until I got a alert about it a couple of days ago.

I could get them in before midnight tonight.

If it's to late, that's OK, I'll just get in on the next one. 👍

 

[Motor City Hami]

Is it to late to enter my tunes? I got so busy with @Thorin Cain & @TurnLeft with the release of our New Tune from our garage Elegance Automotive Guild . I just forgot until I got a alert about it a couple of days ago.

I could get them in before midnight tonight.

If it's to late, that's OK, I'll just get in on the next one. 👍

Today is fine.

 

[Motor City Hami]

We are going to have to call sign ups closed. A full 24 hour extension was given. See you guys in the next one.

Testers feel free to test the full field now.

 

[CSLACR]

I might test yet, I'll have to see what time is available. I checked the math times up there, and I saved 4 hours already by having built, driven, and at least moderately tuned all the cars already.

 

[Otaliema]

3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.

 

[xande1959]

@Motor City Hami
goodnight friend sorry for not get time to post my tunings cars, VW Golf Gti I '76 and '05 Golf Gti. working hard

 

[CSLACR]

3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.

I feel if you think about this enough, you can answer it for yourself. 👍

 

[Otaliema]

I feel if you think about this enough, you can answer it for yourself. 👍

Yeah I know it wasn't as posted, the main reason I didn't just do it as its. Not a handling change just a very minor change to the speed of the car. Secondary reason my kids got up lol

 

[fordracer]

TESTING has started!! Good Luck to all the tuners.

 

[CSLACR]

Yeah I know it wasn't as posted, the main reason I didn't just do it as its. Not a handling change just a very minor change to the speed of the car. Secondary reason my kids got up lol

I hear your point entirely, and it likely makes no effective difference at all, it's just a thing.

 

[Lionheart2113]

@Motor City Hami I just saw the modifications you made to post #3, very nicely done!

 

[Motor City Hami]

3 cars down, man what a difference a tune makes, 2.691 spread already.

@Motor City Hami I ran one can with it's last gear set long by 0.012 this translated into a 1 km/h gain on the track. No change in handling when I corrected the gear, do you want me to rerun the car with the correct setting or leave as is. I think this 1 km/h will translate into maybe 0.010 seconds over the course of the entire track if that. Not sure if it will lose or gain as the shorter gears get up to speed faster but has less top end.

If I were in your shoes I would rerun the car for two or three laps and see if I hit a similar time. It would just take some of the question out of it.

 

[Otaliema]

If I were in your shoes I would rerun the car for two or three laps and see if I hit a similar time. It would just take some of the question out of it.

I have but didn't get a clean lap in, I'll run it on Tuesday again as my warm up car so it will get ten laps again.

 

[CSLACR]

TBH, 10 more laps might be unfair for it. You don't want to take 2 tenths off when .034 is the most likely possible, you know?

 

[Otaliema]

TBH, 10 more laps might be unfair for it. You don't want to take 2 tenths off when .034 is the most likely possible, you know?

I know. I need a warm up car and I need to rerun this one so its a good match. It was going to get another ten anyways I always rerun first two or three cars when I don't a track super good.

 

[Otaliema]

Wow quite weekend in here. Everyone busy testing? Watching the 24H of something or another?
Or enjoying family time?

 

[Motor City Hami]

Wow quite weekend in here. Everyone busy testing? Watching the 24H of something or another?
Or enjoying family time?

Playing with setups on the real race car. Just ordered digital scales, a laser leveler and a ride height measuring tool. Getting ready for an open track day in a couple of weeks.

 

[Otaliema]

Playing with setups on the real race car. Just ordered digital scales, a laser leveler and a ride height measuring tool. Getting ready for an open track day in a couple of weeks.

Nice, here is a fruitful race season sir. My you find the podium many times.

 

[feydrautha]

Nice, here is a fruitful race season sir. My you find the podium many times.

And also may you avoid shenanigans like what went down with the miatas at last year's SCCA runoffs.

Just saying... I wouldn't want my car disassembled