FITT Stingray (C7) Challenge. Congratulations To the podium finishers. See results for who won.

[Thorin Cain]

Thank you for the review and DC Some oversteer and understeer issues, as for the brakes, maybe the racing brake is too much ? It's weird with ABS 1 is gives understeer moments, and when I drove with ABS 0 it keeps skidding rear tires ( often went red/locks )

My pleasure
From my experience, with ABS 1, It is almost impossible to lock the rear under braking (you really need to try hard to make ih happen ). But if there is any sort of steering lock at all, the fronts will lock up pretty easily .

I did a test once on straight line braking with ABS on/off (with my DS3 config ,)) and found front wheel locking under braking could occur as low as 3 on normal brakes with ABS 0 with a 3/10 BB and only started to lock the rear first at 2/10 (Car and track played a factor ,)). But with ABS 1, on racing brakes a 0/10 BB still wouldn't lock the rear first .

As anyone that's had a review from me in the past year in the CotM will tell you (and they're probably fed up hearing about it and going right now ) for me racing brakes are unnecessary for anything other than racing tyres (even some times with RH/R-int/wets) with or without ABS. I've spared you my thoughts in this previously because I know your targets for tuning are different than most In fan club races the Racing Brake: Optional rule saved my bacon a number of times (Thanks @danbojte 👍)

 

[shaunm80]

My apologies, a bit later than expected due to unexpected good weather . Yes It actually was sunny and fairly warm in Scotland , so I had to go enjoy it while it lasted And also for the slow times bringing down the averages, I'm a little rusty . Going to need to get some practice in the new seasonals


You may see a pattern in the last 3 places It's exactly as it looks, No flat floor= bad idea But big props for doing it your way guys

All tunes tested on DS3.
Steering: Stick
Throttle/brake: X and [ ]
Sensitivity: 2
Transmission: MT
View: Interior

@shaunm80
Lap Time; 1:34.326 DC Rank; 10
Impressions and feedback; This is one that I would have never guessed in a blind testing environment. I know you ran short of time and I'm sorry to say I think it shows . This car felt very odd indeed for you. not the usual dependable smooth style, but a little dis-jointed. Brakes were good, stopped the thing well and the BB was almost perfect for my style (5/7 was better ). I would say the main culprit of the odd driving sensations was the LSD, to tight on braking and not tight enough on accel (inside rear was burning up a lot on the in-field) I think a more "conventional" set-up would have suited better.(11/15/15 perhaps). Given a few more laps I should be able to break into the 1:33s, but on the plus side, it was very consistent around the 1:34.5 mark for most of my laps (exept the 2nd one, where I went and built some sandcastles at turn 3 My fault completely :embarresed This is scoring a lot lower than I expected, sorry Shaun.

Thanks for the review. This tune throughout this event has been hit and miss. Not much I could do with the time I had so I went with what I could drive at my limits. Your not the first tester to not get along with the tune so don't worry about it. Thanks for taking the time to test and I hope to give you something a little more you in future events.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Still waiting for one more tester, correct? Or are there more?

 

[shaunm80]

Still waiting for one more tester, correct? Or are there more?

Eager for the challenge to end are we?

 

[Otaliema]

Still waiting for one more tester, correct? Or are there more?

@MrGrado said he will get testing done this weekend. SO waiting on him, @fordracer never got back to me so I wont count on his results.

Go disttract yoru self with the V8 super car at Bathurst

Eager for the challenge to end are we?

I think so

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Eager for the challenge to end are we?

Maybe

@MrGrado still to submit I believe, but with the next challenge gone live I thought I would ask.

As for this one, I'm comfortable with with position on DC, time could still be up for grabs.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

I'm distracted by the constant pouring Northeast rain making my job miserable.

 

[Otaliema]

I'm distracted by the constant pouring Northeast rain making my job miserable.

yeah i delt with that storm last week. Makes ya feel better there is a big heat wave riding behind it.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

yeah i delt with that storm last week. Makes ya feel better there is a big heat wave riding behind it.

Haven't seen the sun in over a week, more rain coming. Feel like a sponge in Seattle.

 

[shaunm80]

Haven't seen the sun in over a week, more rain coming. Feel like a sponge in Seattle.

That sounds a little soggy. Hope the weather clears up soon.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

That sounds a little soggy. Hope the weather clears up soon.

Yeah. Monday

 

[xande1959]

@xande1959
Lap Time; 1:31.448 DC Rank; 8
Impressions and feedback;
(#12) Understeer, just amounts what can be corrected by picking different rim.
I had difficulties with gear choices, didn't get clear signal what gear would fit on current corner. Despite slight understeer car was pretty stable and driveable, gearbox sounded/felt to short, like not using available amount of torque, instead screaming engine without benefits.

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time; 1.33.256
DC Rank; 8th
Impressions and feedback; Good turn in, Very good brakes, Transmission a little short for the long straight but when combined with the LSD settings you have, it minimises wheel spin/slippage in the mid-high speed corners beautifully. One downside is the wheel spin I had in the slow S’s in the mickey mouse section. I struggled to get the power down in the low gears sometimes but this is minor in the grand scheme of things. Great job on this one!

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time 1:31.836; DC Rank 11;
Impressions and feedback; Too much understeer when getting on the oval, I had to have perfect turn in on the final corner or it would push to the wall. Gearing could have been a touch longer for my liking. That said, it was for the most part good in the infield section with just a touch of understeer. Hard to be consistent, moving ballast position rearward might help.

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time: 1:31.449 DC Rank: 2

Impressions and feedback: What a difference one missed setting can do...this car was undriveable...it felt like an ice storm descended on Indy. I could not finish one single lap! FINALLY, by short shifting all around the course, I completed ONE lap with a blistering time of 1:38.154. What!?!? I am starting to really like tunes by Xande and there is no way his car is 7 seconds slower than the previous car. I doubled check all the settings and tried again...same problem. Now what do I do? I can not drive this car. I took one last look at the settings before I send @Otaliema a PM and my

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time;1:33.551 DC Rank; 11
Impressions and feedback; This car is very well built for not having a lot if any track time due to your illness. It handled the high speed turns with total ease. The transmission was a tad short so that hurt it going into turn 1. I couldn’t seem to carry the speed through the turns like I wanted, it didn’t take to my form of trail braking very well it under steered in each turn when I tried, so resorted to straight line and it worked much better that way. What really slowed me up was the last 4 turns on the in field. I couldn’t carry enough speed and I couldn’t lay into the throttle soon enough to make up for the slower turning. Entry and exit grip was great but mid corner felt like it was lacking. Over all good tune, very easy to be consistent with it, but also very easy to go past it’s limits and kill the lap.

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time - 1:31:542
DC Rank - 6th
Impressions and feedback
Nice stable car. Good under braking and decent turn in. Would have liked a little more rotation mid corner.

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@xande1959
Lap Time; 1:33.033 DC Rank; 1
Impressions and feedback; I know the translation gets lost some times. So Amazing, Fun , Fast and did I say Fun? :tup: From the first lap, this was nothing short of complete pleasure. Still a good bit of time left out there due to short number of laps ran. I can't fault it at all. Much better to drive your tunes with MT 👍 A change of BB to suit my preference and this thing's perfect. Great job Xande

thanks for tests it even though wrong in the transmission could not change because he had posted, good performance

@Otaliema

I congratulate the great event
Gentlemen testers, thank you for sharing your knowledge with me. This helps a lot

 

[coryclifford]

Otaliema didn't get the beer clink.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Thanks for the review. This tune throughout this event has been hit and miss. Not much I could do with the time I had so I went with what I could drive at my limits. Your not the first tester to not get along with the tune so don't worry about it. Thanks for taking the time to test and I hope to give you something a little more you in future events.

Thanks Shaun 👍

Otaliema didn't get the beer clink.

He did get three little blue guys paying homage though

 

[Ale67]

@Ale67
Lap Time: 1:32.704 DC Rank: 11

Impressions and feedback: I can see why Lionheart picked this tune for his DC champion...this tune felt exactly like his tune! A Brother-in-arms tune for sure!! For a minute, I thought I forgot to change the tab under the car settings page and was still driving Lionheart's car! I generally like Ale67's tunes but this car/track combo was uncomfortable for me...very hard to drive and keep the car pointed where I wanted it to go. I am very sorry Ale67...

@Bass Addict thanks for your review. 👍 Use the steering wheel or DS3?

@Ale67
Lap Time;1:32.837 DC Rank;3
Impressions and feedback;
Great car, as long as I didn’t kamakazi a turn it stuck great, little to no wheel spin, over all this is a fast consistent tune that would be great at any track. It is so well done there isn’t anything to say about it Great job sir.

@Otaliema thanks for your "Great job sir". I'm happy for 3th DC. 👍

@Ale67
Lap Time - 1:31:887
DC Rank - 5th
Impressions and feedback
Had the rotation that I wanted on Shaun's car, but lacked the stablility on corner entry and exit that Shaun provided. Complete opposite to most of the other cars as the fastest lap was the 1st, not the last.

@biffa3 thanks, happy for 5th DC. 👍

@Ale67
Lap Time; 1:34.287 DC Rank; 7
Impressions and feedback; This was actually pretty sweet, but nothing special. Consistent but not quite as fast as it could have been. I felt the transmission was spot on for what I was looking for but I thing the initial torque setting was a lot too low to really get the best out of the car IMO. BB not good for me either, but the braking was pretty good in general, just a hint of understeer on entry at times,
Don't know if that's the first time I've tried a tune from you, but I'll be trying more in the future I'm sure .

@Thorin Cain thanks for review, see you next FITT

 

[Bass Addict]

@Ale67 wheel user here...

 

[fordracer]

Sorry, @Otaliema, haven't logged in all week. Wish I had time to test guys, just wasn't ment to be.

 

[Otaliema]

Sorry, @Otaliema, haven't logged in all week. Wish I had time to test guys, just wasn't ment to be.

Life happens sir.
If you think you have time in the next couple weeks the V8 super car challenge is live.

 

[MrGrado]

Test results.

@Otaliema
Lap Time;1:32.038 DC Rank;13

@xande1959
Lap Time;1:33.620 DC Rank; 12

@Bowtie-muscle
Lap Time; 1:32.701 DC Rank; 5

@shaunm80
Lap Time;1:32.792 DC Rank; 6

@coryclifford
Lap Time;1:32.945 DC Rank; 8

@Ridox2JZGTE
Lap Time;1:34.517 DC Rank; 4

@OdeFinn
Lap Time;1:33.000 DC Rank; 2

@lBt_33
Lap Time;1:32.253 DC Rank; 1

@Anatres26
Lap Time;1:31.913 DC Rank; 7

@sinof1337
Lap Time;1:33.307 DC Rank; 3

@Lionheart2113
Lap Time;1:31.857 DC Rank; 9

@Ale67
Lap Time;1:33.421 DC Rank; 10

@TheInfamousJEW6
Lap Time;1:33.032 DC Rank; 11

 

[Otaliema]

Test results.

@Otaliema
Lap Time;1:32.038 DC Rank;13

@xande1959
Lap Time;1:33.620 DC Rank; 12

@Bowtie-muscle
Lap Time; 1:32.701 DC Rank; 5

@shaunm80
Lap Time;1:32.792 DC Rank; 6

@coryclifford
Lap Time;1:32.945 DC Rank; 8

@Ridox2JZGTE
Lap Time;1:34.517 DC Rank; 4

@OdeFinn
Lap Time;1:33.000 DC Rank; 2

@lBt_33
Lap Time;1:32.253 DC Rank; 1

@Anatres26
Lap Time;1:31.913 DC Rank; 7

@sinof1337
Lap Time;1:33.307 DC Rank; 3

@Lionheart2113
Lap Time;1:31.857 DC Rank; 9

@Ale67
Lap Time;1:33.421 DC Rank; 10

@TheInfamousJEW6
Lap Time;1:33.032 DC Rank; 11

Thank for the time and effort testing.
Judging by the DC score I see you get along with my car which I totally understand it was a handful this time.
I'll get your times loaded later. Wife gave me a big honey do list today.

 

[OdeFinn]

@OdeFinn
Lap Time;1:33.000 DC Rank; 2

Thanks for testing, just to verify/clarify DC points are 1. for best, 13. for last.. So I'm not sure should there be 12 on my tune

 

[MrGrado]

Otaliema, Your tune was tested first, it was hard giving out DC for the bottom 75% Nobody especially deserved to be ranked last. I might have just given a lot of tunes 6.5 out of ten with the other ranking method. Your tune did well to post a fast time for being tested first.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Did my rank just changed ? It was 3 or am I seeing things ? Anyway, thanks for the test @MrGrado

 

[MrGrado]

Sinof1337 was not tested earlier. His car went to #3, the middle order all moved down one rank. I skipped past his tune as I tested so I didn't have to go to the home screen to remove the flat floor.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Sinof1337 was not tested earlier. His car went to #3, the middle order all moved down one rank. I skipped a past his tune as I tested so I didn't have to go to the home screen to remove the flat floor.

Oh, cool mate No worries

 

[Ale67]

thanks for testing @MrGrado

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Test results.

@Otaliema
Lap Time;1:32.038 DC Rank;13

@xande1959
Lap Time;1:33.620 DC Rank; 12

@Bowtie-muscle
Lap Time; 1:32.701 DC Rank; 5

@shaunm80
Lap Time;1:32.792 DC Rank; 6

@coryclifford
Lap Time;1:32.945 DC Rank; 8

@Ridox2JZGTE
Lap Time;1:34.517 DC Rank; 4

@OdeFinn
Lap Time;1:33.000 DC Rank; 2

@lBt_33
Lap Time;1:32.253 DC Rank; 1

@Anatres26
Lap Time;1:31.913 DC Rank; 7

@sinof1337
Lap Time;1:33.307 DC Rank; 3

@Lionheart2113
Lap Time;1:31.857 DC Rank; 9

@Ale67
Lap Time;1:33.421 DC Rank; 10

@TheInfamousJEW6
Lap Time;1:33.032 DC Rank; 11

Thanks for testing 👍

 

[Otaliema]

Final standings.
Stingray '14 Rank | Average Lap Points DC Rank | DC
@Otaliema 2 | 1:32.024 +00.033 9.996 10 | 93.00
@xande1959 5 | 1:32.394 +00.403 9.956 9 | 102.00
@Bowtie-muscle 1 | 1:31.990 +00.000 10.000 1 | 169.00
@shaunm80 6 | 1:32.468 +00.477 9.948 3 | 137.00
@coryclifford 3 | 1:32.147 +00.157 9.983 4 | 127.00
@Ridox2JZGTE 12 | 1:33.662 +01.671 9.822 11 | 76.00
@OdeFinn 13 | 1:33.840 +01.849 9.803 13 | 58.00
@lBt_33 7 | 1:32.494 +00.503 9.946 2 | 153.00
@Antares26 8 | 1:32.516 +00.525 9.943 7 | 106.00
@sinof1337 10 | 1:33.127 +01.137 9.878 8 | 104.00
@Lionheart2113 4 | 1:32.192 +00.201 9.978 6 | 114.00
@Ale67 9 | 1:32.723 +00.732 9.921 5 | 121.00
@TheInfamousJEW6 11 | 1:33.287 +01.297 9.861 12 | 60.00

Indy Road Lap Time
1 @Bowtie-muscle 1:31.990 +00.000
2 @Otaliema 1:32.024 +0.033
3 @coryclifford 1:32.147 +0.157
4 @Lionheart2113 1:32.192 +0.201
5 @xande1959 1:32.394 +0.403
Indy Road DC Score
1 @Bowtie-muscle 169.00
2 @lBt_33 153.00
3 @shaunm80 137.00
4 @coryclifford 127.00
5 @Ale67 121.00
Stingray '14 Indy Road
1:30.889; @Lionheart2113's tune Driven By biffa3
Most Consistent Lionheart2113 1.750
Fastest Average Lionheart2113 91.731

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Congrats to @Otaliema for hosting a fun event and a tough fought second place.

@coryclifford @shaunm80 @lBt_33 for podium finished. Great job boys 👍

 

[Bass Addict]

@Otaliema great challenge and thank you very much for hosting...👍

To all the tuners, thank you very much as I learned something from each and every one of you...