For Those Who Don't Know How to Do the Glitch In GT5

[Brend]

Wait! So your method Generates 3 cars?!

 

[nikhil]

ThE-1cY I dont like you to say from my heart! I don't like any of you who posts this or use this glich!you shouldnt play GT instead buy xbox and troll around the web! good luck with that! you spoil a lot of fun for a lot of good guys! PS you have to be from USA! just have to!👎👎👎 I hope this thread will be deleted!

Hmmm... How does someone not wanting to spend hours repeating the same race over and over again to get credits ruin your enjoyment of the game?

I swear, people just need to worry about themselves instead of getting bent out of shape over something that doesn't even effect them.

 

[GT Motion]

Buying every color X1 now. Rank has it's privileges, lol.

After everything I said being against this exploit, this is the only way I could see myself doing this. If I bought a car legit and wanted more colors of the same car.

 

[Brend]

Also; Sharing is Caring

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

LOL@ elitists. Really, who cares how you run races. This has nothing to do with the exploit.

Its like saying... "I'm an idiot. But I just want to show off my e-peen and flame u for no razeons!"

This is all that I can gather from elitist banter when it comes to matters such as a harmless exploit.

To be honest, the grinding factor still does kind of exist since you still have to save up the absurd amount of credits required to buy the more competitive cars. And if what you're looking for only shows up in the UCD... then we all know how that goes too. The process itself also looks like a pain in the... well... u know what.

I'm in favor of the exploit... anything that can help take the sting off all this grinding that games these days think is necessary. I'm not interested in runnning the same races over and over again and I'm definitely not interesting in all this elitist epeen... all I'm caring about is the cars I want. If I have to run over some elitist jerks to get there, I too will do so with a big smile on my face and the more the merrier. Having fun is the name of the game, not the oppposite?

 

[Slurm]

Not that I give one brown secretion about what you all do with your own game save data, but I do think it's a great shame that people use exploits like this. Games like GT5 simply aim to create a special, hard to acquire rarity for their greatest cars, but inevitably, if you just want express access to it all, you are faced with an enormous grind which makes you indignant.

Personally, I don't mind if it takes me a year or more to get all the cars I want, and I really hope by then there are 3 times more that I'll have to save further for. I enjoy tuning and covering lots of miles in most of the cars I buy, so it's not an issue for me. I find myself able to buy a new machine in GT5 plenty often.

re "the grinding of modern games" - well, GT5 and many of today's games have vastly more content than old games. I wonder, if GT5 had 10 times the cars, would people expect to earn money 10 times faster, just because of how ridiculously hard work it is to acquire EVERYTHING? To me it seems better that a very big game just takes a long time to explore and complete, and that's a good thing.

 

[ZBlacktt]

After everything I said being against this exploit, this is the only way I could see myself doing this. If I bought a car legit and wanted more colors of the same car.

Plus, like I was saying. How many of these people are even going to get to level 40? More then most not likely at all. When you have the mind set of not earning something. You lack a lot of drive and 40 is not so easy to get to. It's leaving your PS3 on for like 2 weeks straight running 24 hours a day from level 35 to 40.

 

[7HO]

You say that like it's a bad thing but as people have pointed out not everyone plays the game the same way or for the same reason.

I will get to level 40 one day but it will be a long time before I do because I can't see myself ever playing B-spec, it doesn't appeal to me at all. Sure I will get a little XP from racing online and eventually I will get there but the amount of time I have to play is very limited. I guess if it is a bad thing that I am not at level 40 yet it must mean that some guy living in his mothers basement who plays GT5 all day is better than me, I can live with that, I wouldn't trade my life with that guy.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Plus, like I was saying. How many of these people are even going to get to level 40? More then most not likely at all. When you have the mind set of not earning something. You lack a lot of drive and 40 is not so easy to get to. It's leaving your PS3 on for like 2 weeks straight running 24 hours a day from level 35 to 40.

The lack of drive to... tell Bob to start a race and come back a day later to a win?

I'm still utterly confused by these elitist comments when they're entirely based around a time, not skill, dependent scenario. You've simply had more time to hit some buttons than other players so far. I suppose in the most basic sense, you've "earned" the X1's, since the gameplay hours have to be put in and can't be shortened in B-Spec by much (well, other than using over-powered cars, which brings a whole other question).

Plus, the common argument I'm seeing around here is that people who take advantage of the duplicating to get the X1 ahead of the Level barriers somehow aren't skilled enough to drive, because they haven't put in the hours. Which is an interesting one in this case since someone who's received free X1's through Bob's thousands of miles has hardly put in driving experience.

It's all very interesting, both sides of the argument, but as far as I can tell, it really boils down to people feeling cheated they didn't get as much time for "bragging rights" about getting X1's in a "legitimate" (definition required) way. If people need some badge of honour, that they just happened to have more time to play than others, then uh... have it?

Funnily enough, duplicating existed before backing up saves was enabled...

Actually, 7HO, can I requote you?

2. I'd argue that this is almost never the case, in fact I'd argue chances are that anyone who uses this method is likely to develop more skill faster. Telling Bob how to drive does not develop your own driving skills, likewise driving the same killer car in easy win races over and over might develop your skill at lap times around that one track in that one car but that would only be if you focused on improving your lap times while grinding. Meanwhile the guy that gets the cars he wants using this method doesn't need to grind, instead he gets straight to driving the cars he wants to drive around the tracks he wants to drive them on or he can concentrate on participating in challenging races since he no longer needs to win to get those precious credits. Not only is he enjoying the game more but chances are he is also becoming both a better driver and a better racer.

There's very, very little I can find wrong with this argument .
I could've kept grinding Bobteam to Level 35 for my X1. I didn't, because I wanted to learn to drive it myself, so I went to the Vettel challenge as soon as it opened up. I was sitting at Level 26 for A-Spec and I couldn't (and still don't) see myself doing many of the enduros past GV300, they're just not my thing.

 

[Spagetti69]

He he glitching for the win.
Glitched Ferrari P4, Ford mark IV.
Do I feel dirty?.... Yes.
Do I give a damn...... No.

Had 20mill. So I spent some on a Mazda and a Mclaren. Got about 13 mill left.

If PD think I'm spending 20 mill on a car and they won't throw in floormats or an oil change, well screw them.

Happy new year.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

"the grinding of modern games" - well, GT5 and many of today's games have vastly more content than old games. I wonder, if GT5 had 10 times the cars, would people expect to earn money 10 times faster, just because of how ridiculously hard work it is to acquire EVERYTHING? To me it seems better that a very big game just takes a long time to explore and complete, and that's a good thing.

GT5 only has 200 more cars than GT4, and I think you can argue that they're readily available bar some of the F1/racing cars. 200 cars... that's it! It doesn't have as many events, it doesn't have as many tracks... oh but it does have as many standard cars!

Yet... GT4 had vastly more replay value because they didn't shy away form just giving players the credits required to purchase the cars they wanted. If the player desired more competitive play, than GT4 had several routes to pursue that too. I'm sure there were plenty of elitists back in GT4's day who did nothing but run enduros with no driver aids on economy softs with sport trucks and won their way through GT4 12 hours and 500,000 credits at a time... or whatever... and then QQed when people started trading saved games. 👍

Me? I was more about saving that time, running through a race in the Special Events for like 10 minutes, selling the prize car for 260,000 credits (perhaps doing this several times), and then go spend time out in the sun... you know? day light? People? Social stuff! If I desired a special prize car from an enduro... I'd slap bob in the driver's seat, fast foward time x 3, set it and forget it and have it before dinner - or at least this was the proceedure pre-PS3. Now I have a ripped GT4 save on a digital memory card with something like 800 cars on it (yes, including some of those fancy elite prize cars). So when I want something... I run the Special Event race, sell the car, then go on the black market via some garage who belonged to a guy named Johnny and profit.

GT5 doesn't have all of those avenues GT4 had. It is still a lesser game than GT4, lets don't kid ourselves. It's a pretty straight forward grind: little races for little reward. All grinding is, is a black hole sized void of someone's life over digital freaking cars. If there is a way I can avoid soul-sucking grinding for something so pointless, I'm all about it.

As for this X1 hoopla...

I could care less for that tragic heap. If it wasn't enough that elitists could troll on the largest GT fan forum about how much better they always are than anyone else, now they have a car that isn't even real to begin with to troll everyone online in game. IMO, it discredits GT5. I look at the X1 and can't help but think how stupid it is. 👎

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

I thought I was going to stay out of this thread now, but honestly I have to reply to this.

You just said "However I get cars and money is legit".

Lets pretend you have a conversation about this, and that you walk up to a group of people who have "good common sense", and told them "the way I earn cars in my game is I copy the save file, delete my old save file, reload my new save file etc etc". Then they ask you, "what kind of game are you playing?", then you reply "a racing game". Would they not say "isn't that cheating?" or would they say "that's exactly how I thought I would do it".

The fact that you say its legit to do this is completely beyond me...I mean really, legit? Legit means you are operating within the means that the game was intended, doing things as the maker intended them. I guarantee you there is nothing legit about duping save files.

Seriously?..Ok, For one, who are you to tell people what they should and should not do with their video game, That "they" purchased, They are entitled to have the right to do what they want with their "purchase"
They found a glitch, But your upset, Please explain to me in detail why you are upset? Is it your game? did you buy it? Is it any of your business? no, So

why are you butting in on any ones business that has nothing to do with you? ...Your preaching on and on, But you fail to realize, Dude, This is a damn game, "Hard earned money".... Really it's a virtual vehicle, you want to see what real hard earned work is, go out to a small track day or something,
I can not honestly believe you are even going on about this, You feel offended? how in the heck did this ruin the game for "you"?

...Your disappointed?....Also grinding, its a form of cheating, as you basically say "if it kills the value of the game im dissapointed" , well so does grinding, Constantly doing a race over and over when you already know the prize, as well as credits won.. Only reason your doing the race is because you want to earn credits for a "certain" car, ...Your logic irritates me. Seriously do you know what "cheating" is? Love how you preach about duping cars but what about the people online that cheat there way to the top. I don't see you complaining about that, just other cars you don't want people to get before you.

 

[Slurm]

DEATHSARTHE: Well, I may have been too hasty posting, as I'm only level 22 and not aware of how grindy the levels above me are. I also play this game a sensible amount (not been on it for over a week now, due to xmas and new year), but at level 22, I haven't even done the licenses, most of the special events, or any seasonal events and the money for cars at my current level seems to flow fine.

I assumed 20 mil would come fairly naturally at higher levels so maybe I assumed wrong. The levels seem to come fine for me too. Anyway that's just me. I don't play constantly and feel patient/ anticipant about the game. I've enjoyed the driving throughout and it hasn't seemed grindy to me at all.

Torquehappens: It is cheating. It's not the same type of cheating as cutting chicanes, but it's still a form of cheating.

And no, grinding is not a form of cheating. It is just an unfortunate and inevitable routine when you want to have all the content in a very large game. Just to assure you, I don't feel emotional in any way about other's inclination to cheat in this way, as it's not a gameplay cheat.

I played WoW for a time, and the game is full of people who HATE grinding. I understand why they hate it, but it's a total paradox, and they don't see it: For me, there are two aspects to that game and to any game - 1) Having fun, and 2) material progress. The weird thing is, the grind-haters don't engage in the former, so without the need to grind, there would be no game for them. The people who actually still enjoy the gameplay don't really get too frustrated. They progress at a satisfying rate (that would seem painfully slow to hardcore grinding levellers) as they enjoy the game.

Not tarring you specifically with this brush, but it's a pattern I noticed before.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Wait! So your method Generates 3 cars?!

Woops, missed this.

It can. If you already have the specific car in your garage. There are other very big benefits to that method too, but I only use it to grab cars to share with friends so far.

 

[Rylan]

Duplicating cars like this is pretty lame. It's exploiting the mechanics of the save file to obtain cars you are not supposed to have.

You can cut it any way you want but Achievements and Trophies are designed for bragging rights and that, together with the fact that this game has an online multiplayer component means your cheating affects us all.

I also believe you know it's morally reprehensible but you simply don't care. We know it's cheating, you know it's cheating, Polyphonic know it's cheating and no amount of justification will convince us, or you, otherwise.

 

[Destinkeys]

I'd still like to see even ONE of the exploit haters to step up to the plate, and say they have NEVER (cross your heart and hope to die), EVER entered any race, either A- or B-Spec, with a car that is in any way more powerful than the 'typical opponents'...

Sound of crickets chirping

Thought so. You guys 'cheat' just as bad as anyone else. You just have found a way to self-justify YOUR 'cheating' but can't stand it when someone else finds a way to self-justify theirs.

I also am still amazed that all the rage and ire on this thread isn't turned on the REAL culprits behind this exploit. PD/Sony... You don't think that, with a little forethought and preparation, cars won could have been tied to the PSN of the owner? The whole idea of 'gifting' opens itself to this exploit, and nothing can convince me that the guys that designed this game couldn't foresee this exploit. Yet they left the 'feature' in, knowing full well what would happen.

Don't hate the playa.... hate the game!

 

[Rylan]

Ok. Consider this me stepping up to the plate. I make it a habit to race in a car which is as appropriate to the race as is possible.

Sometimes you cannot avoid being a little overpowered, sometimes underpowered but the key for me is that it's a challenge. I don't want to win a race because my car is better. I want to win a race because I'm better.

Mainly, I stick to same car races or time trials or online races with friends.

Your argument is a childs one Destinkeys because you fail to understand that the difference with your cheating is that of intent. You intend to cheat. We sometimes have an advantage because the game mechanics make it impossible.

Gifting was always in. That was never the issue because you gifted an item and then you no longer had it. The problem is that people petitioned for the ability to backup their saves and that reloading allowed duplication. It was never intentional.

To blame PD and Sony for your cheating is like standing in court saying "Your honour. Clearly he meant for me to steal his TV and Playstation because he accidentally left the door open when he went out"

Grow up.

 

[firebird79]

If you just save to usb you dont have to delete,just copy back from usb to ps3 and overwrite!

 

[SS_1182]

Lol, this thing just goes on and on.


I'll say it again... people who have an issue with duplicating cars do so on the basis of fairness and morality, and the game's "intent", which can only be described as speculative at best.

Yet 1% of them can actually say they've never disobeyed fair racing rules while actually playing the game of GT5 (never cut a chicane, never made overzealous contact, never used the FGT against 100hp cars, etc.).


They call that hypocrisy.



And let's keep in mind:

★ The game costs $60 = Your money, your choice.
★ It's still a game. A plaything. A luxury. Not worth this endless finger pointing.
★ People with time commitments might literally never have access to the full content of this game otherwise. How about we give them a break?


Hypothetical situation: A guy with 3 kids and a demanding job dupes every single car in his garage, yet never uses a single one of those cars to race against someone else online, or even for casual offline racing against a buddy. Then what? Should he hang?

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'd still like to see even ONE of the exploit haters to step up to the plate, and say they have NEVER (cross your heart and hope to die), EVER entered any race, either A- or B-Spec, with a car that is in any way more powerful than the 'typical opponents'...

Sound of crickets chirping

Thought so. You guys 'cheat' just as bad as anyone else. You just have found a way to self-justify YOUR 'cheating' but can't stand it when someone else finds a way to self-justify theirs.

I also am still amazed that all the rage and ire on this thread isn't turned on the REAL culprits behind this exploit. PD/Sony... You don't think that, with a little forethought and preparation, cars won could have been tied to the PSN of the owner? The whole idea of 'gifting' opens itself to this exploit, and nothing can convince me that the guys that designed this game couldn't foresee this exploit. Yet they left the 'feature' in, knowing full well what would happen.

Don't hate the playa.... hate the game!

Can anyone who doesn't use this exploit say that?

I've used it every day since 1.05 was installed and I backed up my save. Then I though "If this save is a duplicate of that one, what would happen if..."

I've now got 6 million credits. How do you think I got that money? Grinding endurance races that's how. Not only do I do them stock but I use a worse car than the AI in order to make a race of it.

 

[Brend]

Thanks for the help Slip!

 

[infamousDee]

2. BUY YOUR DREAM CAR FOR FREE (NOTE: YOU MUST HAVE SUFFICIENT MONEY TO BUY THE CAR YOU WANT)

You have no idea how hard I laughed at this.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Duplicating cars like this is pretty lame. It's exploiting the mechanics of the save file to obtain cars you are not supposed to have.

Just like every GT that came before. Hell, back then we could send each other entire garages. And if you wanted a car in your own personal garage but didn't want to run the races necessary for it? Just purchase it from these "community" saves. Done.

You can cut it any way you want but Achievements and Trophies are designed for bragging rights and that, together with the fact that this game has an online multiplayer component means your cheating affects us all.

...and many of us really don't care for the "bragging rights". Seeing how a great many of the PSN trophies don't actually show driver skill, just knowledge of how to exploit the system. Someone having, say, their Extreme Series trophy doesn't mean anything other than having enough money to throw at it to win the races. Well, except the Nascar and FGT races, since there's not much to do to get a clear advantage...

Oh, wait... you can get that trophy from completing them in B-Spec too. So it really is about time invested.

Maybe it's just me, but PSN trophies matter very little when I'm looking for people to race. I'd rather just judge from their lap times.

I also believe you know it's morally reprehensible but you simply don't care. We know it's cheating, you know it's cheating, Polyphonic know it's cheating and no amount of justification will convince us, or you, otherwise.

Polyphony probably does... there also are fairly easy ways to program it out, but they didn't do it, for whatever reason. I know when I heard about gifting, it didn't take long to come up with a procedure that could use the system in dubious ways. A friend and I came up with a plan to duplicate paint chips before we even had the game in our hands... it's pretty simple thinking, so if PD saw it as "morally reprehensible", on the laughable level of comparing it to robbing somebody, well, maybe they would've done things differently?

Ok. Consider this me stepping up to the plate. I make it a habit to race in a car which is as appropriate to the race as is possible.

Good for you. Sometimes, I do the same. Sometimes I am utterly annoyed with the poorly thought-out leveling system and the tiny amount of events leading to grinding, and would rather race friends online in cars we all enjoy but some of them don't yet have access too. Duplicating solves that, it sure didn't hurt any of the parties involved, we end up having more fun. Which, as this is a video game, kind of seems the point, no?

Your argument is a childs one Destinkeys because you fail to understand that the difference with your cheating is that of intent. You intend to cheat. We sometimes have an advantage because the game mechanics make it impossible.

Someone running the French race in the Veyron, or the hot hatch race in the same car, has just as much intent of bending the rules. It's a question of what every person deems as their limit, and surprise of surprises, those limits are always different.

Gifting was always in. That was never the issue because you gifted an item and then you no longer had it. The problem is that people petitioned for the ability to backup their saves and that reloading allowed duplication. It was never intentional.

Duplicating was possible before save backups, if we really want to get into it.

To blame PD and Sony for your cheating is like standing in court saying "Your honour. Clearly he meant for me to steal his TV and Playstation because he accidentally left the door open when he went out"

Grow up.

Comparing someone duplicating a few digital cars in a game that they paid for with their own real money to robbing someone begs the question of who really needs to grow up here.

 

[SRT8]

Please PD .. do something

 

[DOUQA]

Please PD .. do something

Thanks. That was the first time this thread has really made me laugh.

 

[R1chy11]

I honestly don't care. I'll collect all the cars I want for my garage without duping. But I've traded for an x2010 which I know has been duped because I can't be bothered to watch B-Spec Bob do the endurance races.

The joy in this game will be going into my garage seeing my hard earned cars which I love in real life too and then taking them online and playing against mates in a room with limits on power and weight.

If you want to dupe do it, if not don't. I don't think it will ruin anyones game tbh.

 

[FanBoy08]

I have a question. Having issues trading thanks to the 1 limit per day so I need to trade my X1 Prototype to my fake account. But the problem is, if I use my main account to transfer the X1 Prototype then I use up my trade for the day and I need to trade with someone else that day too so what do I do?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Uh... wait a day? What else?

 

[Exorcet]

I have a question. Having issues trading thanks to the 1 limit per day so I need to trade my X1 Prototype to my fake account. But the problem is, if I use my main account to transfer the X1 Prototype then I use up my trade for the day and I need to trade with someone else that day too so what do I do?

Make a bunch of fakes, and dupe the X1 in sequence. You'll only be able to trade 1 on the first day, but 24 hours later, you can trade as many X1's as you have PSN's.

 

[Waltermydoinher]

Wow. Amazing to see how many folks are 'butt-hurt' over this stuff.