For Those Who Don't Know How to Do the Glitch In GT5

[kdryan]

I think this is exploiting the game and shouldn't be done, but I can see why someone would do it. I don't like it because now the rarer cars aren't worth near as much as they should be because everything has been inflated. If you're giving a car to a friend that really needs it, I can see why this would be applied. It's when these "fakes" (bad term, I know, but I couldn't think of anything else) start floating around on the internet to the point where you've got Wal*marts in the Marketplace forum selling these things like toilet paper that I'd draw the line. Unfortunately, there really is no way to stop this other than eliminate the feature to save on outside devices, I highly doubt Kaz would approve of either of these things.

There are no fakes. They're ALL fakes. They do not exist outside of your PS3. They are worthless to start with. In fact, the whole game is actually meaningless. Fun, yes; but it's just bubble gum and Justin Bieber. In 6 months, you'll find it in the delete bin at Wal Mart while you're buying Diablo III or something and think 'That was a fun game' and then move on.

I went through this whole 'It's more than just a game' stuff with Flight Simulator. I spent years tweaking my sim for better performance on the PC, collecting planes, flying from point A to point B, buying new computers just to run the new version, spending a fortune on add-ons, even making new planes. I moderated one of the biggest FS forums on the web. I was at Wal Mart every time a new version came out just so I could be among the first to get it.

In the end, I discovered it was much more fun to get out and enjoy the world. Video games are a blast and I love playing them, but keep it in perspective, folks.

 

[BWX]

I have one GT5 account and I won't make other accounts for the purpose of gaining cars or credits or whatever.

I'll buy all my cars in GT5 with credits I "earn" playing the game. I couldn't care less what other people do with their GT5 experience.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Now people like me can't dominate with car collections (only with driving).

Ah. So it is about bragging rights. But uh... shouldn't it be about the driving?

Now when I see some guy with alot of cars I just will think.. ohh, probobly he makes money in this glich.

And if you have a ton of cars, even if they've been earned "legitimately"... won't others come to the same conclusion about how you obtained them?

I dont even want to buy some insane prised cars now, for me after this dumb commercial is pointless and fun ruined.

I still don't see how other people duplicating cars somehow can cause this kind of reaction. The only justification (for lack of a better word) I can find is that people were hoping to lay claim to a few minutes of "I own X car and Y car and Z car" elitism before the rest of players caught up. Again, since all cars are purchasable in-game with exception to the X1 Prototype and the GTAcademy 370Z, cars ownership is nothing but a time-based bragging right anymore. Not skill.

I don't like it because now the rarer cars aren't worth near as much as they should be because everything has been inflated.

They're worth what they were when the game shipped, and will continue to be worth that. The "Marketplace" is nothing but a user-demanded construct, turning a feature in the game into something it was never really intended to be used for. It's called "gifting" afterall... which I guess raises the issue, even without duplicating, isn't this entire marketplace questionably exploiting the system? If we want to get pedantic, PD could have named it the Marketplace if that was their intentions.

If you're giving a car to a friend that really needs it, I can see why this would be applied.

Well, but then we can all have our own ruling on what really constitutes "need", can't we?

It's when these "fakes" (bad term, I know, but I couldn't think of anything else) start floating around on the internet to the point where you've got Wal*marts in the Marketplace forum selling these things like toilet paper that I'd draw the line.

You can't sell any cars to other users in GT5. Again, user created economy =/= actual game economy. We all place our own personal values on cars; I have no interest in trades for any car that can be won, but that's me. Someone else would surely have a different view.

Unfortunately, there really is no way to stop this other than eliminate the feature to save on outside devices, I highly doubt Kaz would approve of either of these things.

Actually, a rather simple process could be used that wouldn't even require outside devices... at least to stop people from duplicating on their own. When a car enters your garage, it could be assigned an invisible ID; it could be your PSN tied to say, a 6-digit number. So Your first car would be Tonystew42_000001. Mine: SlipZtrEm_000001. Then the game could be coded to ensure that only one instance of any ID can exist in the garage at any time. You buy a new car, that's 000002; but if you send your 001 car to me, and I try to send it back to you, the game recognizes it's already in your garage and refuses to have another copy.

It makes sense... but the problem is duplicating could still be done for the benefit of others: I could still backup a save, send a car to you, and then restore, and there wouldn't be an issue. But it's an idea

 

[GT Motion]

after reading all this! I still think this is the worst thread! This ruins the fun for me and other fair players who plays GT alot and earn Hard money to buy and tune their cars. Now people like me can't dominate with car collections (only with driving). Now when I see some guy with alot of cars I just will think.. ohh, probobly he makes money in this glich. I dont even want to buy some insane prised cars now, for me after this dumb commercial is pointless and fun ruined. There just are some **** people in this world who just dont understand.. and never will, not just this, but even other things! now you can jump on me! fell free 👎

happy new year 2011!

This is what I was trying to explain earlier. Before we at least knew everyone earned things through authentic driving and hard work. Now anytime we see anyone with a nice car we are going to first assume they did the money glitch until we see them drive. I really wish this glitch was never found, and they kept save data locked. I am like you, a lot of the game is now ruined for me.

 

[Tonystew42]

There are no fakes. They're ALL fakes. They do not exist outside of your PS3. They are worthless to start with. In fact, the whole game is actually meaningless. Fun, yes; but it's just bubble gum and Justin Bieber. In 6 months, you'll find it in the delete bin at Wal Mart while you're buying Diablo III or something and think 'That was a fun game' and then move on.

I went through this whole 'It's more than just a game' stuff with Flight Simulator. I spent years tweaking my sim for better performance on the PC, collecting planes, flying from point A to point B, buying new computers just to run the new version, spending a fortune on add-ons, even making new planes. I moderated one of the biggest FS forums on the web. I was at Wal Mart every time a new version came out just so I could be among the first to get it.

In the end, I discovered it was much more fun to get out and enjoy the world. Video games are a blast and I love playing them, but keep it in perspective, folks.

I do know it's a video game, and I do get fresh air a lot, but GT has helped make me who I am. I'm a teenager, and I've been playing GT since before I was potty-trained. Again, I don't make it my life. I've been in a few youth baseball and football leagues, but the main way I connect with my friends is through GT. We've pulled all-nighters to do the 24 Hours of Nurburgring race in GT4 in one session, and to watch the '06(?) Pepsi 400 even though it was rain-delayed for 4 hours. What I'm trying to say is that I balance. I keep GT personal, but it is still a big factor in my life. Hell, I think I'm the one and only person in the world who can play COD for fun, and then sell it so I can get a racing game. Basically, GT is (and always has been, really) a piece of my personality, and I'm trying to keep it out of the delete bin so I can hold on to it the rest of my life. Take that how you will.

 

[Revelation1115]

PD should just put a limit on how many times the game save can be reused.

 

[Tvensky]

well it's still awesome game, and I love it. 👍 Some things just are not like they are supposed to be. 👎

PD should just put a limit on how many times the game save can be reused.

that would be fun so all cheaters would start all over again from 0% 👍 haha

 

[Terronium-12]

This is what I was trying to explain earlier. Before we at least knew everyone earned things through authentic driving and hard work. Now anytime we see anyone with a nice car we are going to first assume they did the money glitch until we see them drive. I really wish this glitch was never found, and they kept save data locked. I am like you, a lot of the game is now ruined for me.

Awh, is the game ruined for you because other people fail to amount to your asinine standards?

Too bad. Stop playing the game then, is all I can tell you.

 

[GT Motion]

Awh, is the game ruined for you because other people fail to amount to your asinine standards?

Too bad. Stop playing the game then, is all I can tell you.

Was that really necessary? A huge part of this game has been ruined for myself an others and your going to taunt me because I am disappointed?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Conversely, is this necessary?

Now anytime we see anyone with a nice car we are going to first assume they did the money glitch until we see them drive.

I'd like to see where there's any co-relation between the use of the glitch and driving skill.

 

[Terronium-12]

Was that really necessary? A huge part of this game has been ruined for myself an others and your going to taunt me because I am disappointed?

Are you really trying to pass yourself off as innocent now?

You're disappointed? In what, the way other people play their games?

I don't even resort to such tactless remarks, but seriously - man up and stop minding other people's business.

 

[GT Motion]

Conversely, is this necessary?



I'd like to see where there's any co-relation between the use of the glitch and driving skill.

It doesn't directly translate, but most of the time most of the people that spent alot of time actually playing will probably be better drivers than the people who just used a glitch to get cars.

Are you really trying to pass yourself off as innocent now?

You're disappointed? In what, the way other people play their games?

I don't even resort to such tactless remarks, but seriously - man up and stop minding other people's business.

What do you mean pass myself off as innocent? I haven't used this glitch or any other glitch in GT5?

I am disappointed only in the online side that now rare cars are no longer rare, thats what we said in our posts, thats the only part that is disappointing.

Since this affects everyone due to online interaction it is everyone's business until this glitch is resolved.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

It doesn't directly translate, but most of the time most of the people that spent alot of time actually playing will probably be better drivers than the people who just used a glitch to get cars.

Saying it more doesn't make it any more true. You might believe this statement, but again, there's nothing to really back this up. I've duplicated a handful of cars (most for friends, two to keep 0 mileage models in my garage)... I'm sitting at Level 33 A-Spec with a single silver trophy, and the rest golds. More than one of those duplicates went to a friend who is far, far faster than me... his save was corrupted before backups were possible, after getting above Level 20 with a fairly decent-sized garage. I sure didn't think he should have to start from scratch.

*Sorry for the double post I guess, but I already had finish posting the first post then saw someone had quoted me again on something else. I don't know how to add his quote to my old post and fix it, please just bare with me Famine*

Got it for you 👍

For future, if you need to add it in to the old post, I usually hit Quote, then copy-paste it into the original post with the Edit button. Within the first minute or so after posting the board software won't even recognize it as an Edit, and won't add the green text. "Ninja-edit", if you will.

 

[Tired Tyres]

This is what I was trying to explain earlier. Before we at least knew everyone earned things through authentic driving and hard work. Now anytime we see anyone with a nice car we are going to first assume they did the money glitch until we see them drive. I really wish this glitch was never found, and they kept save data locked. I am like you, a lot of the game is now ruined for me.

Explain your logic here. How do you think I got the 5 Million credits from in the first place to make this exploit even feasible?

I did it by winning races. Yes that's right, playing the game. Want to know something else? I don't tune cars, I switch all the aids off barring ABS and I never touch AI cars in a race either. When I do an Endurance race it's with a worse car than the AI has otherwise it isn't worth doing.

 

[Terronium-12]

What do you mean pass myself off as innocent? I haven't used this glitch or any other glitch in GT5?

I am disappointed only in the online side that now rare cars are no longer rare, thats what we said in our posts, thats the only part that is disappointing.

Since this affects everyone due to online interaction it is everyone's business until this glitch is resolved.

How, how has any of these cars become less of a rarity than they were beforehand?

You're aware that you can make your own lobbies, right? I'll also assume you're aware that you can filter your own results for the Open Lobby as well? I'll continue to assume that you know it's your option, your prerogative even, of who you will and will not participate with in any online interaction; furthermore, what business is it of yours or anyone else for that matter how any one individual has obtained a vehicle? I'm sitting at level 30-something A-Spec and I've personally used the birthday exploit (see below for the difference between a glitch and an exploit) to obtain a 330 P4, the P400, a 908 (luck of the trade, wasn't really aiming for that), and a few others.

Why?

I'm not saving 20 mil worth of credits for one (1) vehicle. A vehicle that I may not even like too much; I didn't do it in FM3 and I'm not doing it here. If that makes me a cheater, then I'll be damned, give me a button that claims such and I'll wear it with a smile on my face.

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Once again, it's not a glitch, it's an exploit. A glitch, sometimes a fatal one, is an error within the programming code itself. An exploit on the other hand is something that can be utilized in ways not originally intended.

 

[Neocodex]

It doesn't directly translate, but most of the time most of the people that spent alot of time actually playing will probably be better drivers than the people who just used a glitch to get cars.

Your right. Grinding it out on Indy day after day to get your rare car makes you a better driver.

So my friend is a better driver then me because he got the standard edition and I got the preordered CE with stealth and chromeline cars? ****, thats like the same thing. Quick, we need to start a thread to rip on all the cheaters who got chromeline and stealth cars. Those losers didnt work as hard as everyone else...They also are worse drivers.


I applaud anyone who glitches. If it aids you in getting enjoyment from the game, well done.
On the other hand, if you need to grind an oval track several hundred times to get a sense of accomplishment, good for you.

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[GT Motion]

How, how has any of these cars become less of a rarity than they were beforehand?

Because now everyone can get anything just by doing this exploit, without going through the steps of earning them.

Your right. Grinding it out on Indy day after day to get your rare car makes you a better driver.

So my friend is a better driver then me because he got the standard edition and I got the preordered CE with stealth and chromeline cars? ****, thats like the same thing. Quick, we need to start a thread to rip on all the cheaters who got chromeline and stealth cars. Those losers didnt work as hard as everyone else...They also are worse drivers.


I applaud anyone who glitches. If it aids you in getting enjoyment from the game, well done.
On the other hand, if you need to grind an oval track several hundred times to get a sense of accomplishment, good for you.

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I am sorry, I really think you misunderstood my logic, the majority of the time if someone earned something they will have more skill developed as oppose to the people who just glitched for it. However, there are still people who are good who glitched all their cars, and there are still people who are bad who earned all their cars. I am sorry that you misunderstood this.

Also, about the Chromeline and Stealth cars, those are prizes given to people by PD for purchasing special editions, not through duping save files, I am not sure how you could compare that.

 

[7HO]

Because now everyone can get anything just by doing this exploit, without going through the steps of earning them.





I am sorry, I really think you misunderstood 1my logic, the majority of the time if someone earned something they will have 2more skill developed as oppose to the people who just glitched for it. However, there are still people who are good who glitched all their cars, and there are still people who are bad who earned all their cars. I am sorry that you misunderstood this.

Also, about the Chromeline and Stealth cars, those are prizes given to people by PD for purchasing special editions, not through duping save files, I am not sure how you could compare that.

1. Oxymoron

2. I'd argue that this is almost never the case, in fact I'd argue chances are that anyone who uses this method is likely to develop more skill faster. Telling Bob how to drive does not develop your own driving skills, likewise driving the same killer car in easy win races over and over might develop your skill at lap times around that one track in that one car but that would only be if you focused on improving your lap times while grinding. Meanwhile the guy that gets the cars he wants using this method doesn't need to grind, instead he gets straight to driving the cars he wants to drive around the tracks he wants to drive them on or he can concentrate on participating in challenging races since he no longer needs to win to get those precious credits. Not only is he enjoying the game more but chances are he is also becoming both a better driver and a better racer.

 

[GT Motion]

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[Tired Tyres]

Do you at some point intend to respond to my last post?

 

[GT Motion]

Do you at some point intend to respond to my last post?

I trying to limit my arguments, I honestly am not even trying to argue I just keep getting dragged in to things because several people keep quoting me because I keep saying the wrong thing.

I guess for "everyone" I will just sum up my views here and hopefully the endless quoting and back and forth talk will stop.

"My personal opinion" is that I don't believe people should be able to receive unlimited free cars by doing a game save exploit, I personally think it tarnishes the game for those who collect and play online by playing legitimately. Please remember this is my personal opinion, this is how I feel, and this is why this game save exploit has somewhat ruined parts of the game for me. The only times I would see this being feasible is if someone lost everything due to a system fail, and then regained them through this exploit, however since there is no way to govern that, I would much rather have things back to the way they were.

Once again, this is my own personal opinion, that's all.

 

[Jawsers]

I am surprised that this "discussion" has continued for this long. Once again.

Seems like every thread when it gets started it goes round and round and round without an end. Neither side willing to budge. It's all opinion, and you know what, sometimes it's best to just keep those opinions to yourself. We already know the entire gambit of opinions that each side has. It has been retread continuously, and at this rate, it looks like people could argue it for eternity.

It's like when people tell me why to you listen to death metal, I don't understand. Well guess what, I understand why some people listen to country, or rap, or whatever else. You can argue and debate it forever, and you still won't get anywhere.

At this point, this is like arguing with a door. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong, you are arguing with a door, and you just look silly.

 

[Exorcet]

2. I'd argue that this is almost never the case, in fact I'd argue chances are that anyone who uses this method is likely to develop more skill faster.

Most certainly true. I don't get how grinding lets you focus more on driving, than actually driving. What do you think people do once they get the cars?

 

[kdryan]

Ought to be locked and left alone...

 

[Brend]

So;
1: Back up data
2: Send Car to account
3: Delete Data
4: Restore data
5: 2 cars?

 

[Exorcet]

So;
1: Back up data
2: Send Car to account
3: Delete Data
4: Restore data
5: 2 cars?

Basically yes. With more detail:

1. Back up main account
2. Send car to 2nd account
3. Delete main account
4. Restore main account
5. Log in to 2nd account and send the car back to main
6. 2 cars

I actually make money on the second accounts and have them buy the cars so I never have to touch my main save. It eliminates the chance of me deleting it.

I'll get the second account to a certain A-Spec level and money amount, then back them up. I'll buy and send cars, the restore the secondaries to full money.

 

[Brend]

Right, just wondering as I was thinking of "sharing" cars with my friend, cheers!

Weird cause i'm against the birthday glitch :l

 

[Sam48]

Does anyone know about the Top Gear Test track out of track glitch? I read about it here on gtplanet, but I lost it.

 

[ZBlacktt]

Buying every color X1 now. Rank has it's privileges, lol.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

1. Back up main account
2. Send car to 2nd account
3. Delete main account
4. Restore main account
5. Log in to 2nd account and send the car back to main
6. 2 cars

Actually, to add to that:

6. Log in to 2nd account.
7. Receive car. Backup 2nd account.
8. Re-enter game, send car back to 1st account.
9. Restore 2nd account.

...well, if you want. I did it with my personal favourites, and my grinders, just to make it easier. Plus since I use both accounts to race with different groups of friends, it makes sense.

Another interesting exploit: even if you have only 1 particular paint chip, and you want more, you can have 6 in one account (and 11 total in both accounts) by restoring after sending it each time, until you hit the 5-per-day limit. I find this one particularly useful since I doubt anybody really wants to buy an expensive car every time they want the colour.