Ford Focus ST Seasonal Challenge Rigged???

[VBR]

My best was 9 seconds off P1 with all tuning parts fitted, I never use driver assists unless I'm forced too (except ABS set to 1) but I think there's a first time for everything, so the SRF will be turned on for my next try tonight.

Maybe they should re-name it "Laptime Recovery Force!"

 

[Stevisiov]

Please tell me people know that you must drive FF cars differently (and very specifically) compared to RR/MR/FR? For FF and 4WD you need to use the point & squirt method of driving - early apex and straighten the corner off as much as possible, as early as possible. This gives you room for to wind off the lock and get traction.

I'm sure everyone thought it drove just like their Lotus Elise. I'm glad you have enlightened people to the truth.

when i tried it i gained 20+ seconds over the 5 laps.

Yep, its cheating just as much adding a big turbo to your car is cheating.

I don't understand the elitist attitude many are so willing to take with regard to performance tuning, and yet turn out to be using a driver aid which drives the car for you and gives you a bags full of grip to go with it. They are both methods for gaining an advantage, an advantage that many will have to resort to with this particular challenge, because lets face it, without god mode, its certainly one of the toughest challenges in the game.

 

[Goldrusher]

Victory!

 

[khain]

I just won won the Focus RS 06 race with these settings:

SRC - On
ABS - 2
Aerodynamics - Rear 10
Exhaust - Catalytic Converter: Sport
Transmission - Fully Custom Max Speed 124
Drivetrain - Clutch: Twin plate, Flywheel: Semi Racing, Fully Custom LSD 14-45-25
Suspension - Fully Custom: Ride height - Front -10 back 5, Spring Rate - Front 12.5 Back 6.7, Dampers (Ext)- Front 7 back 3, Dampers (Comp) - Front 3 back 4, Anti Roll - Front 5 back 5, Camber Angle - Front 1.5 back 0, Toe Angle - Front 0 back 0.5

I hope these help some of you who are finding this hard. Seeing how I have only owned a PS3 & GT5 for 8 days and I can do this im sure its not as hard as it seems

Virus' setup worked fine to me. I managed to overtake the 1st on 5th lap, but It could happened on 4th if I didn't screwed on corners. Thanks and sorry for my english.

Actually we should create a thread sharing the setups for Seasonal Events. I loved Nascar on Nordschleife, I believe that was the easiest race on those events.

 

[Scotracer]

I'm sure everyone thought it drove just like their Lotus Elise. I'm glad you have enlightened people to the truth.



Yep, its cheating just as much adding a big turbo to your car is cheating.

I don't understand the elitist attitude many are so willing to take with regard to performance tuning, and yet turn out to be using a driver aid which drives the car for you and gives you a bags full of grip to go with it. They are both methods for gaining an advantage, an advantage that many will have to resort to with this particular challenge, because lets face it, without god mode, its certainly one of the toughest challenges in the game.

You'd be surprised how many people, despite knowing or noticing FF cars handle differently take no lengths to actually try and overcome the 'problem' but will instead just complain about 'understeer' or the likes. I've noticed several posts in this thread alone and countless in different arenas.

 

[r1ryder420]

man, this challenge is impossible

 

[Stevisiov]

You'd be surprised how many people, despite knowing or noticing FF cars handle differently take no lengths to actually try and overcome the 'problem' but will instead just complain about 'understeer' or the likes. I've noticed several posts in this thread alone and countless in different arenas.

Well understeer is an understandable complaint, even given the drivetrain layout of the car. The car has far too much power/Torque for its tyres, and of course being FF compounds this issue much further. That said, however you drive this car, understeer is still going to be prevalent. You can drive around it to an extent, but it will always be there, limiting the car. It's a tough challenge (at least without Skid recovery force on) and I appreciate blaming the car for understeer will get people nowhere unless they take steps to prevent it, i.e driving, tuning. That said, its entirely possible that people will take these steps without alluding to it, and was a result your comments may have be redundant. Of course, I may be wrong, many people may try to drive their FF like their MR, so maybe you have opened a few eyes. 👍

 

[C_Raccoon23]

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Victory!

That should totally be a comic.

 

[Ambivalent_]

I think the catalytic converter might be the key here, I only need 0.1 or 0.2s per lap to get within outbraking range of the Focus RS on a very good run 👍

What's "catalytic converter"? What are the optimal values for it?

 

[Mysterious R]

What's "catalytic converter"? What are the optimal values for it?

It's a part, located in the exhaust/muffler tuning section. It is not adjustable, just gives power.

 

[Ambivalent_]

It's a part, located in the exhaust/muffler tuning section. It is not adjustable, just gives power.

Thank you.

 

[Synwraith]

Well, having realised that I spent all of last night running about 6 BHP under the allowed limit, I resumed hostilities with this event tonight having bought a catalytic converter from the Exhaust section of the tuning shop. As a result, I managed 1st place with Skid Recovery OFF on my second run tonight 👍

Here's the setup:

- Ford Focus ST '06
- YELLOW PAINT (important)
- Comfort Soft tyres
- No weight reductions (1430Kg)
- Rigidity Improvement (probably not necessary - noticed no improvement)
- Front/rear Aero parts fitted (Aero set to 0/20)
- Catalytic Converter fitted (221 BHP)
- Fully Customised Transmission (Set to 124mph)
- Clutch Twin plate + Semi-racing Flywheel fitted
- Fully Customisable Suspension fitted (Ride -20/-20, Springs 6.8/15.5, Dampers 1/1, 1/1, ARB 1/1, Camber 2.5/2.0, Toe 0/0)
- Brakes set to 5/8

- ABS 1
- TCS 0
- Driving Line off
- ASM Off
- Skid Recovery OFF

Laptimes:
Lap 1: 1'45.0
Laps 2 to 4: 1'42 high
Lap 5: 1'43 low

I was just trying to upload a replay but they are now 11.7MB zipped unlike GT5P replays, so have to find another way

Many thanks to GTRP Gantenbein and RudiRaser's advice to never use 2nd gear as I was doing in sector 1

All the best
Maz

 

[Ambivalent_]

Congrats & tnx for setup.

 

[Tvensky]

its possible, I've just done it, do lap times 1:43 and its ok. dont forget to tune it, dont change oil! change all suspension and everything that dont reduse weight or improves power! read other topics where you can find ifo about how to tune it- USE search- type something like: Focus ST seasonal GT5.

all this helped me alot

 

[Grayfox]

here is my replay of the event
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CXIAFN3G

all i did was add a cataltic converter(500cr), semi racing flywheel(1,500cr), 6spd close gearbox(8,000cr)

10,000 cr spend on upgrades for maximized returns

 

[katsuru]

I got this challenge done at my first attempt, in fact all of the seasonal events were done like that, first try, Gold.

 

[Synwraith]

I got this challenge done at my first attempt, in fact all of the seasonal events were done like that, first try, Gold.

Were you using Skid Recovery Force ON?

If not, then congratulations as that's quite an achievement. If not, then please understand that some of the members here hace raced with it OFF, meaning roughly 3 to 4 seconds per lap slower than with the aforementioned grip-increasing SRF aid swtiched on, hence the discussions about setup, parts etc.

The Mustang, NASCAR and Mini event in my opinion were straightforward, the RX7 and Focus events, highly challenging 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[hornet_burnout]

Just made the Focus. I could lie... But I don't. I was doing 1.47 flat + 1.44s and ending up barely under 10 seconds, no mater what.

So I turned the SRF on... 1.45 + 1.42s Gold on first try, leading from penultimate corner. No bumping, no nothing. Easy.

So I re-runed it and reviewed it a couple times and I found that not only average cornering speed is increased, allowing more power and less understear, but I swear acceleration is improved. And not just powering out of the corners.

First corner, always passed the mini and got right behind the 206. With SRF off, I have to slipstream all the straight without ever getting the speed to pass. With SRF on, I have to go around it or I'll hit him from behind. And if I do, and loose speed, I can still pass it... Really odd.

This is not anti spinning. It's making the car plain faster.

 

[BWX]

Just made the Focus. I could lie... But I don't. I was doing 1.47 flat + 1.44s and ending up barely under 10 seconds, no mater what.

So I turned the SRF on... 1.45 + 1.42s Gold on first try, leading from penultimate corner. No bumping, no nothing. Easy.

So I re-runed it and reviewed it a couple times and I found that not only average cornering speed is increased, allowing more power and less understear, but I swear acceleration is improved. And not just powering out of the corners.

First corner, always passed the mini and got right behind the 206. With SRF off, I have to slipstream all the straight without ever getting the speed to pass. With SRF on, I have to go around it or I'll hit him from behind. And if I do, and loose speed, I can still pass it... Really odd.

This is not anti spinning. It's making the car plain faster.

I finally tried SRF just to see what it was.. It's a cheat, or an "arcade mode", or an "arcade physics" mode or whatever. I don't want to even hear from people who use it, their setups are completely useless. A 5 year old could win any race with SRF on, in fact we should have a completely separate forum section for people who use SRF, as GT5 is a joke with it on. It's not even a challenge in the least with that setting on, GT5 is more like a Need for Speed arcade racer with SRF- not a simulation in any way. Too bad all these clowns come in here saying all the races are easy and then leave.. not saying if they're playing GT5, or GT5- NFS Mode= ON. I will always assume they are SRF users.

 

[JJ72]

SRF is the "standard" and "professional" physics switch, at least that's what I've gathered. Anyone who buy the most realistic console sim but decide to use the standard physics is frankly, a bit odd in my book.

 

[sinner]

If folks want to use all the aids, that's fine. Who am I to tell them how they should play the game? But I think it's only 'fair' that when they mention their setup or their 'accomplishments'/lap times, they should also mention what aids (if any) they used.

For example, if someone posts their setup, but doesn't mention the aids, then obviously that setup might not work for someone who doesn't use the aids. The aids are worth a lot of time, so much so, I think it even makes a bad setup good.

 

[Drac]

Hi all,
hav problems with Mazda RX 7 seasonal race..just cant get closer than 10sec
Anybody can post they winning setup plz?
Ford Focus not are problem,2nd try=gold,but that Mazda just killin me (and DS3 also LOL)
Thanks

 

[uk86ze]

Hi all,
hav problems with Mazda RX 7 seasonal race..just cant get closer than 10sec
Anybody can post they winning setup plz?
Ford Focus not are problem,2nd try=gold,but that Mazda just killin me (and DS3 also LOL)
Thanks

I used Maz's setup and seemed to work for me.

 

[Cold Fussion]

I used Maz's setup and seemed to work for me.

Where is that?

 

[NLxAROSA]

Where is that?

Post 102.

 

[Drac]

Post 102.

This is Ford Focus setup - we talking about Mazda RX7 setup...

 

[sinner]

This is Ford Focus setup - we talking about Mazda RX7 setup...

But this is the Ford Focus thread...

 

[Pavulon1]

Used J.D's set up from first page of this thread. SRF OFF; first attempt on this set up and gold without any problem. Lap times something about low 1:41 's

 

[Synwraith]

Where is that?

For those struggling (as I have been for who knows how long now) with the new RX7 event at Tsukuba, and are determined not to use Skid Recovery, here's what I used to get gold:

- Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
- Stage 3 weight Reduction/windows/carbon hood (1051Kg)
- Rigidity Improvement
- Added all aero parts (set to 0/28)
- Fully custom transmission (set to 193mph)
- Sports Intake Manifold + Racing Air Filter
- Sports ECU + Stage 2 Engine Tuning (394 HP)
- Catalytic converter + Titanium Semi-racing exhaust
- Fully custom Suspension (Ride Height -20/-20, Springs 16.0/6.3, Dampers 10/5, 10/5, ARB 4/4, camber 2.0/2.0, toe 0/0)
- Twin clutch plates + Carbon propeller shaft + Semi-racing flywheel
- Brakes set to 8/9
- Tyres were Sports Hard as standard
- ABS 1, TC 0, SRF off, ASM off, Driving line off
- MOST IMPORTANTLY - painted the car Matte Yellow

I know it's a great deal of cash to spend, but I wanted the car anyway due to amazing fun had in GT5 Prologue, I wanted it in yellow, and I wanted a souped up one regardless. This was a perfect excuse and bloody hell it was all very necessary to win this race.

What you will find is that if you're getting a good deal out of the car you should be running 1'00.xxx laps all the way through, best lap here was 1'00.000 but 59s are easily do-able even without Skid Recovery, ASM, TCS etc. You will typically knock about 3 seconds per lap off the leading Skyline and on lap 10 he catches the Fairlady Z backmarker that slows him down a LOT and you will make up much more time on Lap 10. On the exit of the corner that leads onto the back straight on lap 10 I got really out of shape and on the grass, but still managed to re-pass the SKyline into the last corner.

That was a mega challenge, and you end up with a killer RX-7 tuned to the back teeth at the end

Remember....YELLOW.

All the best
Maz

 

[Drac]

But this is the Ford Focus thread...

Then lets create tread for every car in GT5 LOL and then for every track,and then for every car setups on every track specificaly LOL
Its not enough to create tread for seasonal challenge (since not many of them exist actualy),so we can talk about all challenges there and not create tread for every car?