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[evldave333]

yet another perez penalty? lol charles not happy on the radio

 

[Famine]

Claiming inconsistent application is a cop out.

How so? The reality is that drivers are only sometimes penalised for this move, and sometimes they are not. That is inconsistent application.

It either is a penalty or not.

Yet sometimes it's penalised, and sometimes it is not. Again, that is inconsistent application.

Here is what Palmer was talking about. Verstappen forces Leclerc off the track, no penalty.

 

[Veinz]

I hope he gets another penalty, I hate the way these guys just constantly push the car on the outside off track. This happens all the time.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Ew, Bottas told not to overtake Hamilton? Get em, Lando! Goooooooooooo!

 

[evldave333]

Bottas given team orders, Hamilton with damage, could be good for Lando...

 

[NotThePrez]

Perez is not gonna be popular in the Ferrari paddock after the race.

 

[Blitz24]

10 second penalty (if they apply another one) to Checo would still leave him in the points as of now.

 

[andrea]

Bottos do the right thing.

 

[NotThePrez]

Bottas given the green light to go after Lewis!

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Ooh, Bottas set free? Get em, Lando! Goooooooooooo!

 

[HenrySwanson]

I stopped watching a bit, why is Lewis going backwards??

 

[andrea]

LANDO

 

[Veinz]

Good lando

 

[PaMu1337]

Meanwhile Russell is back into the points

 

[Racing_Chef]

Norris third!

That's for Imola...

 

[evldave333]

I stopped watching a bit, why is Lewis going backwards??

damage to car

 

[andrea]

'Such a great driver' - Lewis

 

[Veinz]

The stewards are busy today

 

[Samus]

I don't think the guy with a McLaren hat on is a VER fan, Paul.

 

[PaMu1337]

The stewards are busy today

Trying to set a record for most penalties issued

 

[Dreadmed]

Yuki crossed the entry line again?

 

[andrea]

The stewards are busy today

The penalty grand prix at this rate.

 

[HenrySwanson]

damage to car

Damnit

 

[evldave333]

Theyre giving penalties away like mad today, just need 6 or 7 five second penalties for max and valteri can reign supreme rofl

 

[Jubby]

How so? The reality is that drivers are only sometimes penalised for this move, and sometimes they are not. That is inconsistent application.

It's a cop out because if you assess a penalty or not based on some prior decisions and circumstances dilutes the facts of the legality of the move. Is this move legal? If no, then its a penalty.

in fairness, I take your point. It's easy to conflate scenarios and stick with the rule. Body contact, pushing drivers off the track, and providing space are all elements of the rules, legislating these situations.

It's always hard to tell, but you get more consistency by looking at the elements of the rules, not just subjective prior events. Yes, it's great to look at precedent. However, inconsistent application doesn't provide a good solid precedent to build upon. If a new precedent exists, then change the rule/elements of the rule.

 

[Blitz24]

So that's 20 or 25 seconds worth of penalties? Unsure if Checo got the 2nd penalty.

Edit: Checo got another one for turn 6.

 

[NotThePrez]

The stewards are busy today

Apparently so much that Crofty and the Sky team can't figure out of Perez has 5 seconds or 10 seconds of penalties.

 

[Blitz24]

Apparently so much that Crofty and the Sky team can't figure out of Perez has 5 seconds or 10 seconds of penalties.

It is 10 seconds. Sky just confirmed, making it 25 seconds.

 

[Samus]

Oops, Tsu did it again.

 

[PaMu1337]

So that's 20 or 25 seconds worth of penalties? Unsure if Checo got the 2nd penalty.

Norris, 2x Perez, 2x Tsunoda, Giovinazzi, Stroll