Formula 1 Gran Premio de la Cuidad De México 2024Formula 1

[GlamFM]

After watching the highlights it genuinely beggars belief why Max feels the need to throw in kamikaze moves like that, the 2nd violation being akin to the one at Sao Paulo vs Lewis. Never in a month of Mondays would you be able to pull that move off, hell if he was running a simulation of that in iRacing I doubt he would even consider it 99 times out of 100. More so if there were barriers close to the track limits e.g. Abu Dhabi S3.

"I was feeling compelled to do that because the pace wasn't there" doesn't fly, at that point it's just dangerous driving. If he's going to continue go for moves even Yuji Ide would've blanched at, the powers that be should should take heed and slap him with a race ban because at this point time penalties and/or grid penalties aren't getting through. Hell, one could argue it should've happened already.

If, instead of taking such a lesson onboard it hastens him to the exit door, well, good riddance.

It has kind of become his signature move and to be fair the FIA has let it slide for ages. He misses the corner, but makes sure to be ahead at the apex and thereby does not have to give his opponent room to race. The weird part is that the FIA seems to ignore it when he leaves the track himself as seen in Austin.

I think the 10 seconds for the turn 4 incident were at least in part the FIA admitting they got it wrong in Austin. That was more like a 5 second penalty imo. Turn 8 is 10 minimum.

 

[Jimlaad43]

F1 has had this issue before, where a championship contender resorts to ridiculous and childish moves on track against title challengers.

Max knows, a bit like Abu Dhabi 2021, that he has the points advantage so can go into every wheel-to-wheel battle with Norris knowing that Lando cannot risk any form of damage or a DNF. Compare the pass Sainz did for the lead, Vs the three bits of petulance he did against Norris in the last few races. It sucks, because for a few laps before the Austin incident, Max showed once again just how good he is in wheel-to-wheel combat at defending against Norris, but he just cannot accept losing and shows it off in the worst possible way. The only way it hasn't ended in a million crashes is because he often challenges for titles with drivers with some form of self-preservation - Hamilton and Norris.

Both of these drivers decided once to not take Max's crap (Silverstone 21, Austria 24) and accepted his "I turn in you get out the way" contract...and Max never learned his lesson.

These last two weekends have been wildly inconsistent in the stewarding to the reckless moves and we now head back to the scene of one of the worst unpunished moves of his back catalogue.

McLaren need to be ready with many spare parts because I cannot see Norris escaping this Interlagos weekend with all four wheels on his car if there's any on-track battles with Max.

 

[GlamFM]

McLaren need to be ready with many spare parts because I cannot see Norris escaping this Interlagos weekend with all four wheels on his car if there's any on-track battles with Max.

Thankfully it looks like a 10 place grid penalty is on the menu for Max for an engine change.

 

[Bram Turismo]

If Lewis can adapt to that Ferrari next year, we'll see some definite fireworks up front between him and Charles.

"Charles, Lewis is faster than you"

I still doubt it was a wise move. Okay, Sainz hasn't got the outright pace of Leclerc, Norris or Verstappen. But he seems to have his moments where he's just in his zone, and seems completely untouchable during the weekend. And he's always so calm. Plus he seems to be on excellent terms with Charles.

I'll miss him for sure, I think Ferrari's letting go of an outstanding driver on Charles' side.

 

[MagpieRacer]

The unknown factor for Lewis going to Ferrari is the motivation and bounce he'll have going there. He's going to be so up for it, closing a disappointing final chapter at Mercedes, his off season is going to be hyper focused, I don't necessarily think he'll beat Leclerc straight out the blocks but I think he's going to surprise some doubters with a renewed vigor that's going to get him right back up the front.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

After watching the highlights it genuinely beggars belief why Max feels the need to throw in kamikaze moves like that, the 2nd violation being akin to the one at Sao Paulo vs Lewis. Never in a month of Mondays would you be able to pull that move off, hell if he was running a simulation of that in iRacing I doubt he would even consider it 99 times out of 100. More so if there were barriers close to the track limits e.g. Abu Dhabi S3.

"I was feeling compelled to do that because the pace wasn't there" doesn't fly, at that point it's just dangerous driving. If he's going to continue go for moves even Yuji Ide would've blanched at, the powers that be should should take heed and slap him with a race ban because at this point time penalties and/or grid penalties aren't getting through. Hell, one could argue it should've happened already.

If, instead of taking such a lesson onboard it hastens him to the exit door, well, good riddance.

I continue to point the finger straight at the FIA decision made all the way back to Austria 2018 with the battle between Max and Charles. It should've been shut down back then saying that type of driving shouldn't be allowed because that had been the general expectation. Instead, we basically sacrificed driving standards for entertainment that day and it had ripple effects since then.

The unknown factor for Lewis going to Ferrari is the motivation and bounce he'll have going there. He's going to be so up for it, closing a disappointing final chapter at Mercedes, his off season is going to be hyper focused, I don't necessarily think he'll beat Leclerc straight out the blocks but I think he's going to surprise some doubters with a renewed vigor that's going to get him right back up the front.

For me, it's less a question of motivation but more about extracting the maximum performance out of the car. I just don't think Lewis has adapted to the modern iteration of F1 cars as well, at least when going at the limit.

 

[PaMu1337]

Had to laugh at Perez calling Lawson "too aggressive" to get along in F1.

Look across the garage, man.

There are people you can call aggressive, and people you'd better not call aggressive for your own safety 😂

 

[RACECAR]

There are people you can call aggressive, and people you'd better not call aggressive for your own safety 😂

I mean...IS he safe?

 

[Liquid]

"Charles, Lewis is faster than you"

Or "Lewis, Charles is faster than you" because it's calamity Ferrari and he'll have to suck it up.

I'd guess six months of calamity before he gets the pit crew to switch on.

 

[sillybilly]

I continue to point the finger straight at the FIA decision made all the way back to Austria 2018 with the battle between Max and Charles. It should've been shut down back then saying that type of driving shouldn't be allowed because that had been the general expectation. Instead, we basically sacrificed driving standards for entertainment that day and it had ripple effects since then.
For me, it's less a question of motivation but more about extracting the maximum performance out of the car. I just don't think Lewis has adapted to the modern iteration of F1 cars as well, at least when going at the limit.

After the USA race I think Sainz said something like "we need clarification because if this is ok this will change the way we race'" and I've heard other drivers say that a number of times.. and we see if mostly one way still... other driver just don't have the lack of respect for their rivals to resort to it, or any time a situation is somewhat similar other drivers cop a penalty.

The seeming random behaviour of FIA and the stewards does eventually get some odd correlation at times and you think they must make back big $ from the orange army and sponsors selling to them.

Another interesting thing is that Max comments seemed to indicate that he was happy to compromise his race to have been able to ruin Lando's chance at a win. Considering this was justification for intentional cheating to gain position on track - it's not too far off deliberately ramming an title rival off the track. It's getting to very dirty sportsmanship area - and this is from his actions and his words. I can't wait for him to get beaten and then quit.