Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prémio De Portugal 2020Formula 1 

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Stroll would have lifted down the straight if he wasn't carrying on the lap. Verstappen on the inside was going to have a compromised lap anyway, why did he leave his nose in? All Max's fault.

Otmar saying Lance couldn't see him doesn't help though
 
sorry but Stroll just finished his fast lap...Max was starting his fast lap....Stroll would not push that lap anyway...so Stroll should have let Max go.




Spy.
 
Max doesnt have the mental strength to win a title, even if he has the driving ability, red mist needs to be mastered first... The expletive ridden radio message was embarrassing... Its only practice too lol
 
This is practice, not qualifying. Drivers don't have to do a hot lap and stop instantly. If he was doing two laps in a row, he's allowed to, there's no rules against that. Max had plenty of time to work out that Stroll wasn't going to back out, so it's Max's fault because he was the one with his wheels behind.
 
That's mostly on Max for me. From the timing line to the corner there was plenty of time to realise Stroll wasn't backing off, then he decided to just stick his nose in and expect Stroll to yield when he wasn't even fully alongside. Stroll probably could and should have seen it coming and backed off since it was only practice but the bulk of the blame is still on Max.
 
Don't think Max over reacted, stroll should of seen him even if he was told to push and that was the first thing he said, Max was clearly next to him for along time and for a driver to not see him at that point is a massive lack of spatial awareness for an F1 driver, he only needed to see that it was a car clearly faster then his.
 
https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/23/verstappen-and-stroll-cleared-over-practice-crash/

Neither gets a penalty. See, this is where "both at fault" is not applied properly. Why do neither get a penalty if adjudged to both contribute to the dangerous moment, surely if both are at fault, both deserve a penalty.

Puts into context with Hamilton's double penalty recently this is quite interesting... actual collision and dangerous driving this time too. Nothing like a darker skin tone to increase the vigilance of the stewards it seems. It is very arbitrary how penalties are doled out when interpretation and (in Ferrari's case) money comes into the equation...
 
Both Max and Lance were kind of dumb in that situation. No need for a penalty unless this becomes a frequent thing.
 
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125 laps were deleted in practice yesterday due to track limits. Rather than telling the drivers to get on with it and follow the rules, the FIA have caved in and relaxed track limit rules, therefore removing the point of anything.

So now the drivers just need a wheel on the red and white kerb for the lap to count, rather than the white line which is in the FIA rules.

Still, could be worse if the Spa 24 hours pole lap is anything to go by...
 
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That was all on Verstappen for me. He is really starting to get a superiority complex where he expects others to get out of his way. To expect to be given room you have to have gotten far enough alongside to be able to claim the corner. He was nowhere near enough alongside to claim the corner so it's his responsibility to not cause a collision.
 
125 laps were deleted in practice yesterday due to track limits. Rather than telling the drivers to get on with it and follow the rules, the FIA have caved in and relaxed track limit rules, therefore removing the point of anything.

So now the drivers just need a wheel on the red and white kerb for the lap to count, rather than the white line which is in the FIA rules.

Still, could be worse if the Spa 24 hours pole lap is anything to go by...


How the heck did that lap stay on the timing screens?!? :confused:
 
125 laps were deleted in practice yesterday due to track limits. Rather than telling the drivers to get on with it and follow the rules, the FIA have caved in and relaxed track limit rules, therefore removing the point of anything.

I think there has to be some common sense in these judgements, at least I hope so. Is it the case that the cars "naturally" end up there and drivers' attention is better focussed on other cars? There's still a limit there to be enforced and so the ruling remains the same for everyone.
 
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Don't think Max over reacted
He's just casually dropped in the disability nuclear option word.

Bet he doesn't face any punishment for it though. And we won't see any prominent drivers wearing Disabled Lives Matter t-shirts either.

Lovely chap.


Edit: Red Bull Racing has "spoken to" Max over the comments...
 
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I think there has to be some common sense in these judgements, at least I hope so. Is it the case that the cars "naturally" end up there and drivers' attention is better focussed on other cars? There's still a limit there to be enforced and so the ruling remains the same for everyone.
Disagree. If there was gravel there do you think we'd have seen 125 cars going through it? No. They're out there because it's easier with no punishment. Margins are small in F1 and them doing that is the removing the challenge of the corner. They could take that approach at many corners to make them easier, but why do we want that?

I know it's cliché but these are supposed to be the best drivers in the world, they should have the skill to stay within the defined track.

FIA just make this a problem with their inconsistent application of a written rule.
 
Rather that bolt it down they decided to use cement and then wait for it to set.
 
There wouldn't be any obsessing over track limits at turn 1 if they'd done the logical thing and used the chicane.
 
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