Formula 1 STC Saudi Arabian Grand Prix 2021Formula 1

[PaMu1337]

"Both guys went deep". Horner, please share where Lewis was supposed to go then?

Home obviously

 

[o000o]

We saw the real Max today,not saying Lewis was entirely blameless but I'm done with Red Bull's antics,just happy we had the right result in the end.

Honestly really confused there on why Lewis didn't pass Max, or who is at fault honestly, many side of the parties hold some form of blame here.

 

[Rob192005]

Honestly really confused there on why Lewis didn't pass Max, or who is at fault honestly, many side of the parties hold some form of blame here.

If you actually read what I said,I also said Lewis wasn't completly void of fault.

 

[PaMu1337]

Honestly really confused there on why Lewis didn't pass Max, or who is at fault honestly, many side of the parties hold some form of blame here.

Max chose the stupidest way of letting someone past. Lewis chose the stupidest way of dealing with that.

 

[SestoScudo]

Horner reminds me of cult leaders the way he believes his own ********.

Thats why Redbull is the most toxic team. Now I hope Merc takes the championship I say this as a Ferrari fan.

Redbull is known for doing shady stuff while crying about it when Ferrari or Mercedes does it.

 

[DG_Silva]

Honestly really confused there on why Lewis didn't pass Max, or who is at fault honestly, many side of the parties hold some form of blame here.

Given Max had smacked into or almost hit Lewis twice earlier in the race, rejoined the race dangerously twice, he'd clean pushed him off at Brazil, and he had no idea what the hell was going on, would you trust Max?

 

[Milouse]

It comes down to Suzuka 1990.

30 years later, I remember every second of that race that led to the championship decision. Haven't i a good memory?

 

[andrea]

The pertinent section covers "causing a collision".

They need to look at the slow formation lap, too.

 

[TypeRDC5]

Max chose the stupidest way of letting someone past. Lewis chose the stupidest way of dealing with that.

This 👏

 

[McLaren]

They need to look at the slow formation lap, too.

I believe that's already been explained.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

They need to look at the slow formation lap, too.

And also go back to Brazil to investigate that incident.

 

[Blitz24]

Max chose the stupidest way of letting someone past. Lewis chose the stupidest way of dealing with that.

Well, as we know, two wrongs make a left in Saudi Arabia.

 

[barak181]

Thats why Redbull is the most toxic team. Now I hope Merc takes the championship I say this as a Ferrari fan.

Redbull is known for doing shady stuff while crying about it when Ferrari or Mercedes does it.

I'm one of the Americans that are new to sport via Drive to Survive. I remember thinking when I first watched that show thinking how much of an entitled prick Horner came across as. Guess the show got something right.

 

[Terronium-12]

Few things:

1. Can we never return here again? Grand Prix of Safety Car, this race.
2. FIA and Masi were a joke.
3. Max is still way too aggressive for someone with a championship victory on the line.
4. Why did Paul and Damon spend so much time reviewing the Max/Hamilton incident when it's already been proven (at least for now) that the fault lies with the FIA? Neither driver is to blame, IMO. I don't know how else you're supposed to deal with someone suddenly slowing down and you have no idea what's happening.

We can argue whether or not Lewis should have broke free and moved to the side, but hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Blitz24]

Few things:

1. Can we never return here again? Grand Prix of Safety Car, this race.
2. FIA and Masi were a joke.
3. Max is still way too aggressive for someone with a championship victory on the line.
4. Why did Paul and Damon spend so much time reviewing the Max/Hamilton incident when it's already been proven (at least for now) that the fault lies with the FIA? Neither driver is to blame, IMO. I don't know how else you're supposed to deal with someone suddenly slowing down and you have no idea what's happening.

We can argue whether or not Lewis should have broke free and moved to the side, but hindsight is 20/20.

Well, we can always blame Ericsson right?

 

[andrea]

This is very simple, both drivers were clearly thinking about getting DRS, only one crashed into the other car.

This Mercedes logic that Lewis didn't know Max was letting him through makes no sense. I don't know how Hamilton became a 7 time WDC without knowing he can overtake cars during a race. I'm also surprised how he survives every race, so many lapped cars slowing down on the racing line to let him through and he never crashes, truly a miracle.

 

[PaMu1337]

This is very simple, both drivers were clearly thinking about getting DRS, only one crashed into the other car.

This Mercedes logic that Lewis didn't know Max was letting him through makes no sense. I don't know how Hamilton became a 7 time WDC without knowing he can overtake cars during a race. I'm also surprised how he survives every race, so many lapped cars slowing down on the racing line to let him through and he never crashes, truly a miracle.

From that angle it looks way worse for Lewis. Max was clearly slowing down and leaving space, and he intentionally didn't go for it. Only after that did Max brake further.
This footage changed my mind a bit on this

 

[McLaren]

I'm also surprised how he survives every race, so many lapped cars slowing down on the racing line to let him through and he never crashes, truly a miracle.

Man, it's almost like there's this difference between passing a car for position and passing a car that's a lap down & has blue flags to indicate them what's going on.

 

[24HuresdeLoL]

This race just makes me think the FIA need a damn refresh in the off-season, with the race direction and officiating being too hit-and-miss all year. refresh for next season. That and I'm getting so tired of the Toto/Horner bollocks that I kinda don't want either team to win (even though at this stage that isn't feasible, but still)

 

[PaMu1337]

I'm just spamming refresh on the FIA decisions page right now

Edit: for those that don't know: https://www.fia.com/documents/seaso...onships/fia-formula-one-world-championship-14

 

[BrainsBush]

So Lewis was not informed that Max had to slow down and give t he place back. So Max could also have an e.g. an engine failure and had to slow down. Lewis was not informed anyway. So Lewis should have avoid Max and go to the left and pass him. D'oesn;t seem good for him he hit Max' car from behind. Reprimande?

 

[Jimlaad43]

This is very simple, both drivers were clearly thinking about getting DRS, only one crashed into the other car.

This Mercedes logic that Lewis didn't know Max was letting him through makes no sense. I don't know how Hamilton became a 7 time WDC without knowing he can overtake cars during a race. I'm also surprised how he survives every race, so many lapped cars slowing down on the racing line to let him through and he never crashes, truly a miracle.

The onboard is more relevant because there's no view of space either side of Max between the walls. You can't see space to the left, you just see a Red Bull slowing down in the middle of the track multiple times. Around a tight and narrow bit of track at 200mph a car slowing down is tough to get past, as everything going through your head is "Max is trying to put me in the wall".

 

[Grayfox]

Thing with this incident is the stewards want you to give the place back quickly, yet on a narrow street track there are only few places to do so.
Eg: Monaco on tunnel straight or pit straight.

 

[McLaren]

I'm just spamming refresh on the FIA decisions page right now

Edit: for those that don't know: https://www.fia.com/documents/seaso...onships/fia-formula-one-world-championship-14

Give the F5 a rest for now. Gonna be a while.

 

[Pearl Jam]

Screw Red Bull..but have to admit it was addictive watching, even my wife couldn’t take her eyes of the tele and asking me all sorts of motorsport related questions that I’d never heard her utter before

 

[PaMu1337]

Give the F5 a rest for now. Gonna be a while.

That does still mean it has already happened now, doesn't it?

 

[Har1MAS1415]

Max Verstappen will be lucky not to get a race ban if he continues like this in 2022! Congrats to Lewis though! ROLL ON ABU DHABI!

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

That does still mean it has already happened now, doesn't it?

I think the meeting just about started some minutes back.

 

[PaMu1337]

I think the meeting just about started some minutes back.

From what I've seen in the past, I think it rarely lasts more than 5 minutes

 

[Pupik]

Ooof, what weird first race that was to my mother-in-law.

"Are races always this chaotic?"

"Yes, but usually no, but sometimes..."

30 years later, I remember every second of that race that led to the championship decision. Haven't i a good memory?

Yeah, but that race to decide the championship was about 10 seconds long. (Excluding qualifying, naturally.)