Forza 5/6 vs GT6 (See First Post Before Posting)

[phillgt2002]

That's the one positive I simply don't understand. How does GT5 have a better photomode?

The viewing space is cluttered (I get the effect they're going for but is it really necessary?), the panning is slow as all kinds of hell - it takes me far longer to nail one good shot based on the combination of those two, and there's color banding that's virtually unavoidable even if you know what you're doing.

I guess in terms of a feature-rich in-game camera GT5 definitely takes the cake, but there's something about those gripes that actually keeps me away from it unless I really want to update my gallery.

I got so frustrated with how god damn clunky GT5's photomode interface was. I tried taking photos on GT5 and I simply couldn't. The camera felt so restricted.. ugh. I do like the features as you said Terronium.

 

[IceMan PJN]

What I have read about GT6 is somewhat worrying though; no improvements to the damage model and sound effects, and standard models are still in the game. All of that sucks. At least we'll get 7 more tracks, which is exciting, and DLC is laid out from the very beginning this time, which is great, that even includes track DLC, so more tracks beyond what ships on the disc is even cooler.

I have low expectations of the DLC, on account of how long it takes PD to produce content and how sluggish they were with GT5 DLC. If they manage to have regular track DLC, it probably won't be new courses, but rather just dumps of old tracks.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I have low expectations of the DLC, on account of how long it takes PD to produce content and how sluggish they were with GT5 DLC. If they manage to have regular track DLC, it probably won't be new courses, but rather just dumps of old tracks.

Hey, at least they're attempt to release tracks as DLC at all every month. Not like Forza that releases only CARS every single month, you need new tracks to drive them on too IMO.

 

[Imari]

Hey, at least they're attempt to release tracks as DLC at all every month. Not like Forza that releases only CARS every single month, you need new tracks to drive them on too IMO.

Yeah, except if they're re-releasing older tracks from GT4/3 as DLC...how cool is that going to look?

Yeah guys, we've had Complex String for 12 years but we didn't put it on the disc. We touched it up a bit so that we can sell it to you for more money. Pretty sweet right? DLC! Yeah!

 

[King1982]

I have low expectations of the DLC, on account of how long it takes PD to produce content and how sluggish they were with GT5 DLC. If they manage to have regular track DLC, it probably won't be new courses, but rather just dumps of old tracks.

They'lle probably throw in some Skylines in for good measure... or a premium Suzuki.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I won't mind premium DR30 Tomica Skyline GTSR or a multitude of JGTC/STCC cars - Viper, 355, 911, MR2, RX7, R32, R33, NSX, McLaren, Diablo, 3000GT, M3, Exiv, FTO, Civic all in premium - those 80's-90's classic racecars.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yeah, except if they're re-releasing older tracks from GT4/3 as DLC...how cool is that going to look?

Yeah guys, we've had Complex String for 12 years but we didn't put it on the disc. We touched it up a bit so that we can sell it to you for more money. Pretty sweet right? DLC! Yeah!

Oh wooow like, who cares Imari? I certainly wouldn't mind if it was the old GT tracks, even Tahiti Road if that possibly gets added in by DLC. As long as its a track I'm happy, unlike you and others who buys CAR DLCS and than have to GRIND races to buy them... Seriously?

I'm going to say it again. At least it's better than releasing cars every month, just sayin...

 

[ERIC11940]

After seeing that Forza 5 is going to be on the new Xbox One, I just have a feeling that Forza 5's going to beat GT6.

It's just my opinion.

 

[HAL20XX]

Oh wooow like, who cares Imari? I certainly wouldn't mind if it was the old GT tracks, even Tahiti Road if that possibly gets added in by DLC. As long as its a track I'm happy, unlike you and others who buys CAR DLCS and than have to GRIND races to buy them... Seriously?

I'm going to say it again. At least it's better than releasing cars every month, just sayin...

GT6 is going to be releasing monthly car DLC. Are you saying that's now a bad thing? Or does your reasoning apply only when it's in regards to Forza? I'm guessing you meant GT because that's the only game where you had to GRIND to get anywhere.

 

[TokoTurismo]

GT6 is going to be releasing monthly car DLC. Are you saying that's now a bad thing? Or does your reasoning apply only when it's in regards to Forza? I'm guessing you meant GT because that's the only game where you had to GRIND to get anywhere.

No, I am not. I would have said the same excat thing about GT if it didn't delivered CARS to your delivery truck, without having to GRIND races after buying them with your REAL money....

 

[CinnamonOD]

After seeing that Forza 5 is going to be on the new Xbox One, I just have a feeling that Forza 5's going to beat GT6.

It's just my opinion.

You can't really win or lose when there's no competence at all...
Just sayin'

 

[HAL20XX]

No, I am not. I would have said the same excat thing about GT if it didn't delivered CARS to your delivery truck, without having to GRIND races after buying them with your REAL money....

So paying for reused assets = good. Paying for brand new assets = bad. Got it 👍

 

[bandicoot17]

Oh wooow like, who cares Imari? I certainly wouldn't mind if it was the old GT tracks, even Tahiti Road if that possibly gets added in by DLC. As long as its a track I'm happy, unlike you and others who buys CAR DLCS and than have to GRIND races to buy them... Seriously?

There's nothing wrong with car DLC's and I can assure you that the Forza community doesn't have a problem either. Adding 150+ new cars to the game is not to be sniffed at.
And I would hardly say it was grinding, takes about 15 minutes to get #200k if you know what you're doing, plus the its not exactly boring to compete in online/offline races to earn credits.

 

[TokoTurismo]

So paying for reused assets = good. Paying for brand new assets = bad. Got it 👍

The Aventador, Scirocco R and Golf R were reused assets? GASP, Never knew. Guess you must have forgotten about Horizon's DLC, I see. 👍

There's nothing wrong with car DLC's and I can assure you that the Forza community doesn't have a problem either. Adding 150+ new cars to the game is not to be sniffed at.
And I would hardly say it was grinding, takes about 15 minutes to get #200k if you know what you're doing, plus the its not exactly boring to compete in online/offline races to earn credits.

I know it's not a bad thing, but I just think having the cars delivered to you is much better if you know what I mean. However, I agree with your point. 👍

 

[Northstar]

to GRIND races after buying them with your REAL money....

I've never had to grind in FM4, you get plenty of credits just going through the event list. I'm already at 4.5 million on my new save and I'm only 12% of the way through the event list. I would rather have it the current way, especially with the garage cap.

Plus, all cars are unlocked in arcade mode so you can use them there if you don't have enough credits.

 

[HAL20XX]

The Aventador, Scirocco R and Golf R were reused assets? GASP, Never knew. Guess you must have forgotten about Horizon's DLC, I see. 👍

Nope, never bought Horizon's DLC for that very reason. You said you would be more than happy to pay for reused assets in GT. I don't know how you keep skewing this.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I've never had to grind in FM4, you get plenty of credits just going through the event list. I'm already at 4.5 million on my new save and I'm only 12% of the way through the event list. I would rather have it the current way, especially with the garage cap.

Plus, all cars are unlocked in arcade mode so you can use them there if you don't have enough credits.

That is true, your right. 👍 Than again I have like 10m in my save but I'm too cheap to buy expensive cars.

Nope, never bought Horizon's DLC for that very reason. You said you would be more than happy to pay for reused assets in GT. I don't know how you keep skewing this.

GASP, than how will you complete the 1000 challenges? O_O You're gonna need them. And it was tracks I said I will pay for if there were from the old GTs that weren't in GT5, not the cars. What are you trying?

 

[HAL20XX]

GASP, than how will you complete the 1000 challenges? O_O You're gonna need them. And it was tracks I said I will pay for if there were from the old GTs that weren't in GT5, not the cars. What are you trying?

Old tracks that havent been updated are reused assets. You said you are ok with it. Then you said new cars in Forza are bad because you then have to race in a racing game to purchase them. Seriously, what is so difficult to comprehend here?

I never said I needed to complete the 1000 challenge achievement.

I have standards on what I purchase regardless of the publisher. You've shown repeatedly that as long as its PD, you're OK with it.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Old tracks that havent been updated are reused assets. You said you are ok with it. Then you said new cars in Forza are bad because you then have to race in a racing game to purchase them. Seriously, what is so difficult to comprehend here?

Not the ones from GT5. If GT6 was to release tracks like, oh I don't know Mid-Field or something, I don't mind at all.

I was never talking about the cars until YOU brought it up. Basically what said was when you buy the DLC cars, you have to grind for them, but than the others told me there were different ways to get them and I agreed with them and took that back what I said.

I never said I needed to complete the 1000 challenge achievement.

I have standards on what I purchase regardless of the publisher. You've shown repeatedly that as long as its PD, you're OK with it.

I have purchased several DLC packs in Forza before, as well in NFS, not just GT so don't even.... I especially purchased cars in FM4 but didn't bother buying the expensive ones.

 

[ImaRobot]

Oh wooow like, who cares Imari? I certainly wouldn't mind if it was the old GT tracks, even Tahiti Road if that possibly gets added in by DLC. As long as its a track I'm happy, unlike you and others who buys CAR DLCS and than have to GRIND races to buy them... Seriously?

I'm going to say it again. At least it's better than releasing cars every month, just sayin...

No, I am not. I would have said the same excat thing about GT if it didn't delivered CARS to your delivery truck, without having to GRIND races after buying them with your REAL money....

Grind? In 30 minutes, from rivals alone, you could already have a couple million. I wouldn't really call that grinding.

What I don't get is why your making it seem like a bad thing that t10 were releasing ten new cars a month.

Horizon DLC was horrible in my opinion, that's the main reason I got rid of the game. To many rehashes, that I felt wronged if I would by them. Which is weird because your trying to make that a point against Forza, when gt is probably going to be doing this with tracks.

On a side note though, horizon was made by PG so I'm assuming they choose the DLC. Motorsport was made by t10, so is it right to even compare the two? It should just be gt vs fm.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Grind? In 30 minutes, from rivals alone, you could already have a couple million. I wouldn't really call that grinding.

Don't forget about arcade, I was told you can drive the DLC cars there too. Also, I took back what I said already.

What I don't get is why your making it seem like a bad thing that t10 were releasing ten new cars a month.

I'm not saying it's bad releasing ten new cars. I'm saying why just release car packs every month without tracks, but took that back as well.

Horizon DLC was horrible in my opinion, that's the main reason I got rid of the game. To many rehashes, that I felt wronged if I would by them. Which is weird because your trying to make that a point against Forza, when gt is probably going to be doing this with tracks.

If Forza was to release its old tracks as DLC as well, I will buy them because there tracks. In Horizon I just bought only one new car, that's it. lol

On a side note though, horizon was made by PG so I'm assuming they choose the DLC. Motorsport was made by t10, so is it right to even compare the two? It should just be gt vs fm.

No, it isn't. But was it really PG who chose the DLC?

 

[Zathra5_]

I've never had to grind in FM4, you get plenty of credits just going through the event list. I'm already at 4.5 million on my new save and I'm only 12% of the way through the event list. I would rather have it the current way, especially with the garage cap.

Plus, all cars are unlocked in arcade mode so you can use them there if you don't have enough credits.

I found the event list to be a grind. Just an endless list of meaningless events. That's a big problem in both GT a spec and Forza. People complained about the the short number of events in GT5 but do we really want more meaningless events (like seasonals). At least GT had the license tests and special events. That made GT single player a lot more enjoyable to me. I'll be terribly disappointed if both Forza and GT go with the same old same old. I had a lot more fun with the single player racing in Horizon even with the dumbed down physics because there was an actual story behind it.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I found the event list to be a grind. Just an endless list of meaningless events. That's a big problem in both GT a spec and Forza. People complained about the the short number of events in GT5 but do we really want more meaningless events (like seasonals). At least GT had the license tests and special events. That made GT single player a lot more enjoyable to me. I'll be terribly disappointed if both Forza and GT go with the same old same old. I had a lot more fun with the single player racing in Horizon even with the dumbed down physics because there was an actual story behind it.

I'm of two minds on this one. While part of me loves that there's so many events in FM4 - I've just barely crested 52% complete after all this time - I will agree that they feel so disconnected. There are different races - point to point, autocross, touge style with traffic, passing challenges, even the Top Gear bowling - but how they're presented doesn't sell this variety as well as it probably could. Or should.

I'd love to see some work done on reorganizing the events to make them more distinct. There are multiple ways for T10 to do this, but I imagine we won't see much of the game's main progression structure until much later.

 

[Imari]

Oh wooow like, who cares Imari? I certainly wouldn't mind if it was the old GT tracks, even Tahiti Road if that possibly gets added in by DLC. As long as its a track I'm happy, unlike you and others who buys CAR DLCS and than have to GRIND races to buy them... Seriously?

I'm going to say it again. At least it's better than releasing cars every month, just sayin...

For the record, I have never bought any DLC for Forza, because I don't think it's worth it. I download my one free car for the month and move on.

Beware generalising. Just because I like Forza, doesn't mean I give them free access to my wallet.

 

[Northstar]

At least GT had the license tests and special events. That made GT single player a lot more enjoyable to me.

I got bored with license tests after GT3 and the special events were ok, but like most things in GT5 they didn't reach their potential.

I'll be terribly disappointed if both Forza and GT go with the same old same old.

I'm with you there, I was thrilled when they announced NASCAR and WRC for GT5, only to find out they were barely present in the game(Same can be said for ALMS and Forza). I would love some kind of actual career progression(start with karting and choose a path to the top level of whatever discipline(F1, Touring Cars, WRC or NASCAR)) along with the traditional career setup.

 

[TokoTurismo]

For the record, I have never bought any DLC for Forza, because I don't think it's worth it. I download my one free car for the month and move on.

Beware generalising. Just because I like Forza, doesn't mean I give them free access to my wallet.

Really? I did the very same thing as you did, like only downloading the free cars and moving on to something else. But I'll definitely take your tip for the future of DLC packs in other games I like. 👍

I can tell you that I'm a somewhat blind buyer haha.

 

[ERIC11940]

You can't really win or lose when there's no competence at all...
Just sayin'

I know, it's just that PS4's going to be released Holiday 2013, and GT6 is going to be on the PS3, and Forza 5's going to be a launch title for Xbox One.

 

[HAL20XX]

I'm with you there, I was thrilled when they announced NASCAR and WRC for GT5, only to find out they were barely present in the game(Same can be said for ALMS and Forza). I would love some kind of actual career progression(start with karting and choose a path to the top level of whatever discipline(F1, Touring Cars, WRC or NASCAR)) along with the traditional career setup.

This one always bothered me. Part of the reason of liking those cars is the series behind them.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Nearly everything you said

We call that bias, you know when you favor one side more than the other...seems you've been informed

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Yes I am a bit biased. I'll admit that though it was probably already pretty clear
I still like both games and I may seem a bit more biased than I actually am.

I tend to be more outspoken on the negative side related to Forza largely because I see so many people who seem to act like it is so great and ignore the issues with the game.

I tend to be more outspoken on the positive side for GT mostly because I hear so many people whining about little things and ignoring some of the achievements made with GT5.

The bottom line is that both the GT series and the Forza series are must have games for the serious console collector/racer. Both are fun and both have their high an low points.

For me the thing that bothers me most about Forza is that they had what I thought was an awesome start with Forza 2 and then back slid a bit with Forza 3 in some of the most important areas of the game.

The thing that bothers me most about GT5 is the total lack of leaderboards after having had them in GT5P also a step backwards in an important area.

I am also concerned after having played Horizon that the Forza series may be bending more in the NFS direction and I certainly hope that is not the case.