Forza Horizon 4 - Colour Creation Database (CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS) *READ FIRST POST*

[Mitcho2001]

Of the five @Gotbeefboy564 posted the other day, three are already in the spreadsheet. The only two you'd need to do are Rapid Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat and Twister Orange; the latter is a solid color, so you can use the sample from paintref.com. I'm not saying these are the only five colors for the car, but it's a start.

That's pretty much it. I may revisit Grabber Lime and possibly redo the metallic version. Everything else from there should be all good.

@Mitcho2001 and @JaCor653 I could really use your guys' help creating Tourmaline Violet (BMW). I've been trying to recreate it for over an hour but to no avail :/ Here are some reference images of it, though. I hope one of you will have better luck than I did.

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This is the Tourmaline Violet I made based on some of these references:

Tourmaline Violet (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.89L, 0.34R, 0.18L
- Flake: 0.86L, 0.19R, 0.51L

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I'll admit, that isn't a bad start! Not to mention the process can be a pain in the backside...
However, I shall give it a go myself and see if I can get something closer to the references for you.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

That's pretty much it. I may revisit Grabber Lime and possibly redo the metallic version. Everything else from there should be all good.


I'll admit, that isn't a bad start! Not to mention the process can be a pain in the backside...
However, I shall give it a go myself and see if I can get something closer to the references for you.

Thanks buddy! If I can't do it, I know you or @JaCor653 most definitely can I think I've been getting better and better at replicating colors the more I do it and the more I make. There are still so many others that I have to recreate lol

I also have a few more colors to share

Blue Hera Mica Metallic (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.64L, 0.80R, 0.56L
- Flake: 0.63L, 0.93R, 0.65L

Morea Green Metallic (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.55L, 0.36R, 0.45L
- Flake: 0.53L, 0.16R, 0.86L

I also redid Boston Green Metallic (BMW) because the one in the chart seemed too dark to me

Boston Green Metallic (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.50L, 1.00R, 0.19L
- Flake: 0.50L, 1.00R, 0.38L

Electric Blue (Mitsubishi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.62L, 0.88R, 0.61L
- Flake: 0.62L, 0.85R, 0.89L

Dandelion Yellow (Mitsubishi)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.11L, 0.69R, 0.94L

Sunset Pearlescent (Mitsubishi)

Paint Type: Two-Tone Polished
- Base: 0.10L, 0.67R, 0.97L
- Highlight: 0.03L, 0.84R, 0.82L

Catalunya Red (Audi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.02L, 0.80R, 0.79L
- Flake: 0.02L, 0.86R, 0.93L

 

[Mitcho2001]

Got some colours done that have been sitting around for a while, including @CVPI93's request for Boulder Opal Blue and the other recreations submitted. I also fixed some small mistakes on the spreadsheet which had been pointed out by @MadaraxUchiha, so thanks for the heads up on that! As for a definitive recreation of Rosso Fiorano, I'd rather put that up to the choice of you. I say this because I'm not sure what is best from the samples both I and @MadaraxUchiha made. I won't go ahead straight away with this as I don't have my own values recorded, but I'll put them all together and see what we think. Hopefully I'll get that done the next time I have some colours to put up.

Boulder Opal Blue
Paint Type: Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue: 0.41 L
Saturation: 0.98 R
Brightness: 0.71 R
Highlight
Hue: 0.59 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.85 L

Tourmaline Violet
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.76 L
Saturation: 0.40 R
Brightness: 0.27 L
Flake
Hue: 0.90 R
Saturation: 0.17 L
Brightness: 0.57 L

Rapid Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.99 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.65 L
Flake
Hue: 0.98 L
Saturation: 0.89 R
Brightness: 0.80 R

Twister Orange
Paint Type: Standard
Hue: 0.07 R
Saturation: 0.97 L
Brightness: 0.90 R

Grabber Lime (St. Patrick's Day)
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.21 R
Saturation: 0.93 R
Brightness: 0.71 L
Flake
Hue: 0.22 R
Saturation: 0.61 L
Brightness: 0.82 L

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Got some colours done that have been sitting around for a while, including @CVPI93's request for Boulder Opal Blue and the other recreations submitted. I also fixed some small mistakes on the spreadsheet which had been pointed out by @MadaraxUchiha, so thanks for the heads up on that! As for a definitive recreation of Rosso Fiorano, I'd rather put that up to the choice of you. I say this because I'm not sure what is best from the samples both I and @MadaraxUchiha made. I won't go ahead straight away with this as I don't have my own values recorded, but I'll put them all together and see what we think. Hopefully I'll get that done the next time I have some colours to put up.

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Boulder Opal Blue
Paint Type: Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue: 0.41 L
Saturation: 0.98 R
Brightness: 0.71 R
Highlight
Hue: 0.59 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.85 L

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Tourmaline Violet
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.76 L
Saturation: 0.40 R
Brightness: 0.27 L
Flake
Hue: 0.90 R
Saturation: 0.17 L
Brightness: 0.57 L
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Rapid Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.99 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.65 L
Flake
Hue: 0.98 L
Saturation: 0.89 R
Brightness: 0.80 R

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Twister Orange
Paint Type: Standard
Hue: 0.07 R
Saturation: 0.97 L
Brightness: 0.90 R

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Grabber Lime (St. Patrick's Day)
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.21 R
Saturation: 0.93 R
Brightness: 0.71 L
Flake
Hue: 0.22 R
Saturation: 0.61 L
Brightness: 0.82 L

All amazing colors as usual, and I do believe you’ve nailed Tourmaline Violet friend I’ll be putting that on my M3 GTR

Some more colors

Dragon Orange (Audi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.07L, 0.87R, 0.71L
- Flake: 0.08L, 0.97R, 0.93L

Ginster Yellow (Volkswagen)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.11L, 0.85R, 0.86L

Arctic Gray Metallic (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.16L, 0.03R, 0.42L
- Flake: 0.16L, 0.01R, 0.74L

Blaze Orange (Acura)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.03L, 0.81R, 0.84L
- Flake: 0.03L, 0.48R, 0.98L

Dravite Gray Metallic (BMW)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.11L, 0.22R, 0.18L
- Flake: 0.11L, 0.16R, 0.36L

 

[JaCor653]

@Mitcho2001, I was looking through your spreadsheet, and without sounding overly nitpicky, I've found some errors.

Firstly, you've replaced the color name Verde Gea & Oro Electrum from the Lamborghini Sián with "Two-Tone Semigloss." I remember that this color was supposed to be Two-Tone Semigloss, but it seems you've changed the color name to that instead of the paint type.

Also, the gridlines around "Metal Flake" have been removed somehow for those three colors.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Got some colours done that have been sitting around for a while, including @CVPI93's request for Boulder Opal Blue and the other recreations submitted. I also fixed some small mistakes on the spreadsheet which had been pointed out by @MadaraxUchiha, so thanks for the heads up on that! As for a definitive recreation of Rosso Fiorano, I'd rather put that up to the choice of you. I say this because I'm not sure what is best from the samples both I and @MadaraxUchiha made. I won't go ahead straight away with this as I don't have my own values recorded, but I'll put them all together and see what we think. Hopefully I'll get that done the next time I have some colours to put up.

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Boulder Opal Blue
Paint Type: Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue: 0.41 L
Saturation: 0.98 R
Brightness: 0.71 R
Highlight
Hue: 0.59 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.85 L

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Tourmaline Violet
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.76 L
Saturation: 0.40 R
Brightness: 0.27 L
Flake
Hue: 0.90 R
Saturation: 0.17 L
Brightness: 0.57 L
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Rapid Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.99 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.65 L
Flake
Hue: 0.98 L
Saturation: 0.89 R
Brightness: 0.80 R

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Twister Orange
Paint Type: Standard
Hue: 0.07 R
Saturation: 0.97 L
Brightness: 0.90 R

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Grabber Lime (St. Patrick's Day)
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.21 R
Saturation: 0.93 R
Brightness: 0.71 L
Flake
Hue: 0.22 R
Saturation: 0.61 L
Brightness: 0.82 L

To me grabber lime is more gloss than metallic

Same with orange

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

To me grabber lime is more gloss than metallic View attachment 861666View attachment 861665 View attachment 861670View attachment 861668 View attachment 861669
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There are two versions of Grabber Lime. The stock version is the gloss one, and the other is a metallic St. Patrick's Day special version. Both are already on the chart, not sure if you checked or not but both were done a long time ago by myself and @JaCor653

Also, here’s a fun fact: Apparently the word ‘twister’ is banned on Xbox for whatever reason. I didn’t even know it was an offensive term until I made ‘Twister Orange’ but couldn’t name the file that so I had to call it ‘T wister Orange’. Pretty dumb if you ask me.

 

[Mitcho2001]

@Mitcho2001, I was looking through your spreadsheet, and without sounding overly nitpicky, I've found some errors.

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Firstly, you've replaced the color name Verde Gea & Oro Electrum from the Lamborghini Sián with "Two-Tone Semigloss." I remember that this color was supposed to be Two-Tone Semigloss, but it seems you've changed the color name to that instead of the paint type.

Also, the gridlines around "Metal Flake" have been removed somehow for those three colors.

Oh no... I had a feeling something like that was coming. That being said, I guess I should not be working on this when I'm extremely tired. That or completely rush through things. I genuinely do not remember somehow doing that! So that is somewhat embarrassing on my part.
Verde Gea & Oro Electrum is completely fixed, while the grid lines are back in place. Google Sheets is a bit of a pain when you select everything and choose to put a border around each box and doesn't, because that isn't the only time that has happened.
Thanks for the heads up about that!

 

[HyperSpeeder]

There are two versions of Grabber Lime. The stock version is the gloss one, and the other is a metallic St. Patrick's Day special version. Both are already on the chart, not sure if you checked or not but both were done a long time ago by myself and @JaCor653

Also, here’s a fun fact: Apparently the word ‘twister’ is banned on Xbox for whatever reason. I didn’t even know it was an offensive term until I made ‘Twister Orange’ but couldn’t name the file that so I had to call it ‘T wister Orange’. Pretty dumb if you ask me.

You'd be surprised at how many "interesting" words are censored by Xbox Live.

"Damn" is censored in their Discord for some reason. Funnily, "crap" isn't, but is censored in the forums instead! What gives?

Now that you're on a roll, please give Deep Blue Pearl some love!

 

[Mitcho2001]

You'd be surprised at how many "interesting" words are censored by Xbox Live.

"Damn" is censored in their Discord for some reason. Funnily, "crap" isn't, but is censored in the forums instead! What gives?

Now that you're on a roll, please give Deep Blue Pearl some love!

Well then. I don't really know how to respond to that. Something just does not add up for that to make sense...

Before we get onto Rosso Fiorano, I have only one colour to share. That colour being Bayside Blue Metallic.

Bayside Blue Metallic
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.60 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.44 R
Flake
Hue: 0.56 L
Saturation: 0.99 L
Brightness: 1.00 R

As said, I have redone my examples of Rosso Fiorano and listed their respective hue, saturation and brightness values. Keeping to my promise, I have also got @MadaraxUchiha's examples. I'd rather let everyone have their say instead of adding one of my own; be a bit greedy. I'll give this one some time before I officially add it to the ever-growing spreadsheet.

My Examples:

Option 1
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.00 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.46 L
Flake
Hue: 0.98 R
Saturation: 0.90 L
Brightness: 0.58 R

Option 2
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.00 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.56 L
Flake
Hue: 0.98 R
Saturation: 0.90 L
Brightness: 0.73 L

Option 3
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base
Hue: 0.00 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.67 R
Flake
Hue: 0.98 R
Saturation: 0.90 L
Brightness: 0.87 R

@MadaraxUchiha's Examples:

Option 1
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base & Flake: 0.00L, 0.67R, 0.47L

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Option 2
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base: 0.00L, 0.49R, 0.46L
Flake: 0.00L, 0.49R, 0.46L

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Option 3
Paint Type: Metal Flake
Base: 0.00L, 0.67R, 0.47L
Flake: 0.00L, 0.49R, 0.46L

Now I shall leave the decision up to you...

 

[JaCor653]

I cast my vote for @Mitcho2001's Option 3.

Maybe you could set up a poll somehow...

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I’m really confused now Is Rosso Fiorano a metal flake paint or two-tone polished? Look at this:

That looks like two-tone polished to me, but I can’t see it close up enough to tell if there’s flakes or not

 

[JaCor653]

I would say it's metallic. This webite offers touch-up paint in that color, and the sample image they use appears to contain flakes.

Link

 

[Mitcho2001]

I’m really confused now Is Rosso Fiorano a metal flake paint or two-tone polished? Look at this:

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That looks like two-tone polished to me, but I can’t see it close up enough to tell if there’s flakes or not

I think trying to create it using Two-Tone Polished would result in a darker result, unless you really crank the brightness up for both the base and highlight. I can have a go with my attempt and see what it ends up looking like. But on a more serious note, it’s hard to tell as to whether or not Rosso Fiorano is a metallic colour or not. From the images I’ve seen, it’s been nearly impossible to tell.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Are these the same color or are these different than the rosso Fiorano

These look more glossy than the ones posted.

 

[JaCor653]

It's amazing how much confusion one paint color can spark. Anyway, I have more colors to share.

Harvest Tan (Willys)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.10L 0.39R, 0.79L

Sunset Red (Willys)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.05L, 0.90R, 0.83L

Sparkle Green Metallic (Mazda)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.51R, 0.77R, 0.29L
- Flake Color: 0.48R, 0.94L, 0.62L

Sandstone (Chevrolet, GMC)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.09R, 0.18L, 0.56L
- Flake Color: 0.10R, 0.13L, 0.65R

I'm not entirely happy with this color. If someone wants to refine it, feel free.

Sunset Orange (Nissan)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.06R, 1.00R, 0.64R
- Flake Color: 0.07R, 0.90R, 0.77R

 

[HyperSpeeder]

I'm partial to @Mitcho2001 version of Rosso Fiorano (option 3). But, I still think there's possible room for improvement. Paul Bailey owns a LaFerrari in this color and from videos of it the color seems to be very slightly more orange than what Mitcho did (my guess is 0.04L hue but feel free to experiment). It looks like a metallic version of Rosso Scuderia, really.

I googled Rosso Fiorano and I get lots of different colors. Technically, all five could be a good representation. But depending on lighting this color is easy to mistake for Rosso Rubino, another metallic red which is darker, closer to burgundy. Rosso Fiorano is lighter.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I did Rosso Fiorano again. Hopefully it turned out right

Rosso Fiorano (Ferrari)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.98L, 0.72R, 0.41L
- Flake: 0.98L, 0.87R, 0.71L

These are all the same color, by the way. I took pics outside and in the Autoshow.

 

[JaCor653]

Alright, it's time for me to throw my hat into this ring.

I present my version of Rosso Fiorano. I took @HyperSpeeder's suggestion of tinting the color a bit towards orange, and I think it looks pretty realistic. I'll let other people decide for themselves:

Rosso Fiorano (Ferrari)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00L, 0.98R, 0.51R
- Flake Color: 0.02L, 0.98L, 0.96L

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Will the real Rosso Fiorano please stand up?

 

[JaCor653]

Will the real Rosso Fiorano please stand up?

Without sounding overly self-biased, I think my version is the best. @Mitcho2001's versions are a bit pink instead of a bit orange, and your versions are to dark and dull.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I'm not going to stress about Rosso Fiorano when I have more colors to share

Black Rose (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.98L, 0.36R, 0.23L
- Flake: 0.95L, 0.39R, 0.38L

Zircon Red (Mercedes-Benz)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.00L, 0.78R, 0.57L
- Flake: 0.00L, 0.84R, 0.68L

Mantis Green (McLaren)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.27L, 0.76R, 0.96L

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

As a side note, I’ve recreated German fashion designer Philipp Plein’s Ferrari 812 Superfast I don’t know the color name, but it’s so gorgeous I had to recreate it (and I’m currently using it on mine lol)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.41L, 0.99R, 0.61L
- Flake: 0.42L, 0.91R, 0.93L

 

[HyperSpeeder]

Now with the Divo out I wonder if someone is gonna work on the Overbeeke cars?

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I just did two versions of Monsoon Gray (Audi) because I couldn't decide which was more accurate so I need your guys' help

Monsoon Gray (Audi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.65L, 0.14R, 0.30L
- Flake: 0.94L, 0.03R, 0.36L

or

Monsoon Gray (Audi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.72L, 0.04R, 0.33L
- Flake: 0.04L, 0.03R, 0.54L

 

[JaCor653]

Monsoon Gray (Audi)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.65L, 0.14R, 0.30L
- Flake: 0.94L, 0.03R, 0.36L

This version looks more accurate to me.

EDIT: Here are another five colors:

Interchange Yellow (Mini)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12R, 0.62L, 0.84R

Copper Red Mica (Mazda)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00R, 0.95R, 0.47R
- Flake Color: 0.02L, 1.00R, 0.98L

Inferno Red Metallic (Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.97L, 0.91R, 0.47R
- Flake Color: 0.97L, 0.88R, 0.92R

Laguna Blue (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.59L, 0.98L, 0.65R
- Flake Color: 0.57L, 1.00R, 0.85L

Lead Foot (Ford)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.61L, 0.11R, 0.42L

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I bring more colors guys

Grigio Scuro (Ferrari)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.41L, 0.02R, 0.33L
- Flake: 0.60L, 0.05R, 0.38L

Cliff Green (Volkswagen)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.28L, 0.66R, 0.64L
- Flake: 0.27L, 0.80R, 0.81L

Piedmont Green (Mercedes)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.58L, 0.26R, 0.21L
- Flake: 0.55L, 0.37R, 0.42L

Electric Beam (Mercedes)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.19L, 0.88R, 0.94L

Sunshine Orange (Subaru)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.06L, 0.85R, 0.84L

Lagoon Blue (Subaru)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.54L, 0.91R, 0.62L
- Flake: 0.53L, 0.73R, 0.82L

Wilderness Green (Subaru)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.17L, 0.28R, 0.44L
- Flake: 0.18L, 0.21R, 0.50L

Venetian Red (Subaru)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.96L, 0.71R, 0.46L
- Flake: 0.99L, 0.78R, 0.58L

Cool Gray Khaki (Subaru)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.57L, 0.16R, 0.80L

Photon Red (Jaguar)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.01L, 0.75R, 0.89L
- Flake: 0.01L, 0.84R, 0.99L

 

[HyperSpeeder]

The M3 GTS in FH4: no Alcantara leather wheel, no rollbar (what you get in the chassis upgrade is quite different and badly textured), no shift lights, no base 3-Series parts (which were in FH1), no colors other than Inca Orange (I think very few not from Individual were built in other colors but not sure).

Playground on the M3 GTS: "AMG LOL"

If I was Daimler-Benz I'd be phoning Microsoft the exact second after this video was first uploaded.

My God, why do I even care. After I saw in this very thread the Corvette ZR1 shipping with Z06 wheels and gauges being treated as a "minor bug" (which came to no surprise considering who said that), all hope is lost for this game.

Turn 10 needs to look at FH4 very closely and do EXACTLY the opposite if they wish FM8 to have any kind of success. That is, attention to car detail and sounds, and fair access to each and every car in the game. Making Forza great again involves sanitizing and/or purging every aspect of Forza Motorsport even remotely related to the mess Forza Horizon has become. Because Forza Motorsport's competition is Gran Turismo and, starved of content as they are, they do treat the bits they get with utmost respect after all. Meanwhile, Forza becomes the laughing stock of the community with Legos and bugs that would make Black Box, Criterion and Ghost Games blush.

And yes, I'm angry because I wanted this car really bad, and, in its current state, it sucks.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

The M3 GTS in FH4: no Alcantara leather wheel, no rollbar (what you get in the chassis upgrade is quite different and badly textured), no shift lights, no base 3-Series parts (which were in FH1), no colors other than Inca Orange (I think very few not from Individual were built in other colors but not sure).

Playground on the M3 GTS: "AMG LOL"

If I was Daimler-Benz I'd be phoning Microsoft the exact second after this video was first uploaded.

My God, why do I even care. After I saw in this very thread the Corvette ZR1 shipping with Z06 wheels and gauges being treated as a "minor bug" (which came to no surprise considering who said that), all hope is lost for this game.

Turn 10 needs to look at FH4 very closely and do EXACTLY the opposite if they wish FM8 to have any kind of success. That is, attention to car detail and sounds, and fair access to each and every car in the game. Making Forza great again involves sanitizing and/or purging every aspect of Forza Motorsport even remotely related to the mess Forza Horizon has become. Because Forza Motorsport's competition is Gran Turismo and, starved of content as they are, they do treat the bits they get with utmost respect after all. Meanwhile, Forza becomes the laughing stock of the community with Legos and bugs that would make Black Box, Criterion and Ghost Games blush.

And yes, I'm angry because I wanted this car really bad, and, in its current state, it sucks.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-horizon-4-general-discussion.382029/page-284
Believe this goes here.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

The M3 GTS in FH4: no Alcantara leather wheel, no rollbar (what you get in the chassis upgrade is quite different and badly textured), no shift lights, no base 3-Series parts (which were in FH1), no colors other than Inca Orange (I think very few not from Individual were built in other colors but not sure).

Playground on the M3 GTS: "AMG LOL"

If I was Daimler-Benz I'd be phoning Microsoft the exact second after this video was first uploaded.

My God, why do I even care. After I saw in this very thread the Corvette ZR1 shipping with Z06 wheels and gauges being treated as a "minor bug" (which came to no surprise considering who said that), all hope is lost for this game.

Turn 10 needs to look at FH4 very closely and do EXACTLY the opposite if they wish FM8 to have any kind of success. That is, attention to car detail and sounds, and fair access to each and every car in the game. Making Forza great again involves sanitizing and/or purging every aspect of Forza Motorsport even remotely related to the mess Forza Horizon has become. Because Forza Motorsport's competition is Gran Turismo and, starved of content as they are, they do treat the bits they get with utmost respect after all. Meanwhile, Forza becomes the laughing stock of the community with Legos and bugs that would make Black Box, Criterion and Ghost Games blush.

And yes, I'm angry because I wanted this car really bad, and, in its current state, it sucks.

You know, you could write to Turn 10 or Playground Games on their Twitter, the official Forza Complaint Thread, or support page and point out exactly what you just said. They fixed another car recently, one of the Mazda's, that had messed up gauges or something. They do listen to stuff like that, as far as I know, so if you bring it to their attention, the better.

@Mitcho2001 Also, there's a mistake on the chart. Under Ford, you have the color listed as 'Electric Spice' when it is actually called 'Orange Spice'. Thought you'd like to know