Forza Horizon 4 - Colour Creation Database (CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS) *READ FIRST POST*

[JaCor653]

Before you get rid of my version I’d at least like to copy down the values for it 😅

Here’s another Lamborghini color I think you’d like to do and it’s called Verde Baca:

View attachment 1135579

Verde Baca (Lamborghini)

Paint Material: Matte
- Paint Color: 0.14R, 0.38L, 0.47R

That's even the reference image I used.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

That's even the reference image I used.

I didn’t even know you did it 😂😂😂😭😭

 

[JaCor653]

I didn’t even know you did it 😂😂😂😭😭

I replaced your values in the spreadsheet with mine. Thank you for accepting that change. In case you still want your values, they are as follows:

Verde Gea (Lamborghini)

Paint Material: Two-Tone Semigloss

• Lowlight: 0.13L, 0.47R, 0.75L
• Highlight: 0.21L, 0.55R, 0.29L

Now that that is solved, on to the next color issue. When the Toyota Tundra and 4Runner TRD Pro were released, I was looking for good colors to paint them. One color that I found was Quicksand. This color has an interesting story in this thread. You requested it back in August 2019, and @Mitcho2001 did it in September 2019. However, the values that he came up with are not the ones that are in the spreadsheet. Based on how they look to me, neither set of values is accurate. I made my own version of the color.

Here Mitcho's version of the color:

Here is the version that is in the spreadsheet:

Lastly, here is my version of the color:

This isn't exactly directed to you since you didn't do the existing version of the color (I'm assuming). It's really directed to @Mitcho2001, but it makes sense to post it in the thread for everyone to see.

My values are 0.11R, 0.39R, 0.78R.

 

[Mitcho2001]

I replaced your values in the spreadsheet with mine. Thank you for accepting that change. In case you still want your values, they are as follows:

Verde Gea (Lamborghini)

Paint Material: Two-Tone Semigloss

• Lowlight: 0.13L, 0.47R, 0.75L
• Highlight: 0.21L, 0.55R, 0.29L

Now that that is solved, on to the next color issue. When the Toyota Tundra and 4Runner TRD Pro were released, I was looking for good colors to paint them. One color that I found was Quicksand. This color has an interesting story in this thread. You requested it back in August 2019, and @Mitcho2001 did it in September 2019. However, the values that he came up with are not the ones that are in the spreadsheet. Based on how they look to me, neither set of values is accurate. I made my own version of the color.

Here Mitcho's version of the color:
View attachment 1135897

Here is the version that is in the spreadsheet:
View attachment 1135898

Lastly, here is my version of the color:
View attachment 1135895

This isn't exactly directed to you since you didn't do the existing version of the color (I'm assuming). It's really directed to @Mitcho2001, but it makes sense to post it in the thread for everyone to see.

My values are 0.11R, 0.39R, 0.78R.

Yeah, my version of it is nowhere near accurate. I actually hate how it looks seeing it now - that's how bad I think it is! Having done it after I was getting myself familiar with the method I was using at the time, it was incredibly basic - just get one direct colour sample from PaintRef and use that... which was far too bright and desaturated. Yours, on the other hand, are much more accurate to the real deal with a handful of reference images from a quick search.

 

[JaCor653]

Yeah, my version of it is nowhere near accurate. I actually hate how it looks seeing it now - that's how bad I think it is! Having done it after I was getting myself familiar with the method I was using at the time, it was incredibly basic - just get one direct colour sample from PaintRef and use that... which was far too bright and desaturated. Yours, on the other hand, are much more accurate to the real deal with a handful of reference images from a quick search.

Well, then I'll put my values in the spreadsheet in the place of the mystery values which I don't know the origin of. It's really strange: you made your version of the color, but the values in the spreadsheet are from somewhere else. There was no mention of another version of that color in this thread until yesterday when I posted my version. Because of this, the current spreadsheet values are very confusing. I guess it doesn't really matter, since they are about to be replaced; it just makes you wonder where they came from. This same thing has happened with a couple of other colors.

EDIT: I also adjusted Ford's Grabber Blue, a color I originally did, to be more bright and accurate. @MadaraxUchiha, this leads me to yet another change I feel needs to be made to the spreadsheet. I want to solve the problem of Ford's various versions of Grabber Lime. The color from 1971 has a different paint code than the color on the 2020 GT500. The GT500 also has two versions of the color—the solid color that is standard for the car and the metallic version that was a St. Patrick's day special. I am about to redo all three of these unique variants of Grabber Lime and get this whole thing straightened out. However, since this does involve replacing colors currently in the spreadsheet, I will hold off on doing the actual replacement until I get the go-ahead.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Well, then I'll put my values in the spreadsheet in the place of the mystery values which I don't know the origin of. It's really strange: you made your version of the color, but the values in the spreadsheet are from somewhere else. There was no mention of another version of that color in this thread until yesterday when I posted my version. Because of this, the current spreadsheet values are very confusing. I guess it doesn't really matter, since they are about to be replaced; it just makes you wonder where they came from. This same thing has happened with a couple of other colors.

EDIT: I also adjusted Ford's Grabber Blue, a color I originally did, to be more bright and accurate. @MadaraxUchiha, this leads me to yet another change I feel needs to be made to the spreadsheet. I want to solve the problem of Ford's various versions of Grabber Lime. The color from 1971 has a different paint code than the color on the 2020 GT500. The GT500 also has two versions of the color—the solid color that is standard for the car and the metallic version that was a St. Patrick's day special. I am about to redo all three of these unique variants of Grabber Lime and get this whole thing straightened out. However, since this does involve replacing colors currently in the spreadsheet, I will hold off on doing the actual replacement until I get the go-ahead.

I actually do like the solid version of Grabber Lime I did for the 2020 GT500 and don’t want that one replaced because it took me a long time to get that one right a long time ago when I did it :/

 

[JaCor653]

I actually do like the solid version of Grabber Lime I did for the 2020 GT500 and don’t want that one replaced because it took me a long time to get that one right a long time ago when I did it :/

I feel like it's too desaturated, though. You have the saturation at 35. Here are my versions of the colors:

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Normal
- Paint Color: 0.21L, 0.66R, 0.82L

Ford's Grabber Lime was also called Pinto Lime. Mercury also used the name Bright Lime Green. All of these color names use paint code I.

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Normal
- Paint Color: 0.20R, 0.90L, 0.90R

Paint code F9

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Metal Flake

• Lowlight: 0.20R, 0.76L, 0.56R
• Highlight: 0.19L, 0.76L, 0.77R

Special promotional St. Patrick's Day color for 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

I know the Festival lighting is traditionally inferior to the lighting available at houses, but that's a bit different in FH5. For brighter solid colors like these, the lighting is so intense at the player houses that the colors look overly desaturated, and not how they actually look. Because of this, the Festival is a better place for taking pictures of cars painted colors like these.

Also, I am still not replacing anything until I get the go-ahead. I just wanted to post my versions of the colors so that people could see what I came up with.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I feel like it's too desaturated, though. You have the saturation at 35. Here are my versions of the colors:

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Normal
- Paint Color: 0.21L, 0.66R, 0.82L

Ford's Grabber Lime was also called Pinto Lime. Mercury also used the name Bright Lime Green. All of these color names use paint code I.

View attachment 1136174

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Normal
- Paint Color: 0.20R, 0.90L, 0.90R

Paint code F9

View attachment 1136173

Grabber Lime (Ford)

Paint Material: Metal Flake

• Lowlight: 0.20R, 0.76L, 0.56R
• Highlight: 0.19L, 0.76L, 0.77R

Special promotional St. Patrick's Day color for 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

View attachment 1136175

I know the Festival lighting is traditionally inferior to the lighting available at houses, but that's a bit different in FH5. For brighter solid colors like these, the lighting is so intense at the player houses that the colors look overly desaturated, and not how they actually look. Because of this, the Festival is a better place for taking pictures of cars painted colors like these.

Also, I am still not replacing anything until I get the go-ahead. I just wanted to post my versions of the colors so that people could see what I came up with.

I mean I used an actual picture of the car when I made the color 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m not sure what to tell you. However, I hope we’re not going to go through all 10,000+ colors and start editing and redoing all of them because that’s way too time consuming. What we have here is way more than anyone else has ever done and if we start obsessing about every single detail then it’s never going to get done. It won’t ever be 100% perfect, but what we have already is above and beyond so many other things.

 

[JaCor653]

Hello everyone,

I would like to re-request a few Lamborghini paint colours; 1) Grigio Titans, 2) Grigio Adam’s, and 3) Arancio Xantos.

Cheers and keep up the great work!

I’m still going to be doing them. They haven’t been forgotten and they’re on my list of colors to do.

@MadaraxUchiha, I am sorry that I seem to keep bringing this up, but I really think you need to do all of those Lamborghini colors you keep saying you are going to do. @JasonGenova53 requested some colors, and you mentioned some others, and you've essentially left him hanging for almost two years. He has re-requested these colors at least twice, in hopes that you would do them. Remember those colors, including Quicksand, that you requested back in August 2019? Imagine if @Mitcho2001 or I had said we would do them, and kept repeating that, but never did for like two years. I know you have been busy with work and other things, and that the world has become crazy, but you've certainly done many colors since @JasonGenova53 requested those Lamborghini colors. I think you need to just get them done, as quickly as you can, and apologize to @JasonGenova53 for letting them go for so long. I think that, in this situation, that is the fairest thing to do. I know that you've become angry with me in the past when I and other people told you how to live your life, but I honestly feel like this situation should not have happened. Of course, we all strive for accuracy and efficiency with the colors we do and the requests we take in this thread. If I subconsciously let a request hang for so long, I would certainly want to know about it and I would certainly let the requestor know that I am sorry I let such a thing happen. For the sake of completion and professionalism, I really think you should do those colors and end this once and for all. Of course, you don't have to, but I think it would be best for @JasonGenova53, you, and the thread as a whole.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

@MadaraxUchiha, I am sorry that I seem to keep bringing this up, but I really think you need to do all of those Lamborghini colors you keep saying you are going to do. @JasonGenova53 requested some colors, and you mentioned some others, and you've essentially left him hanging for almost two years. He has re-requested these colors at least twice, in hopes that you would do them. Remember those colors, including Quicksand, that you requested back in September 2019? Imagine if @Mitcho2001 or I had said we would do them, and kept repeating that, but never did for like two years. I know you have been busy with work and other things, and that the world has become crazy, but you've certainly done many colors since @JasonGenova53 requested those Lamborghini colors. I think you need to just get them done, as quickly as you can, and apologize to @JasonGenova53 for letting them go for so long. I think that, in this situation, that is the fairest thing to do. I know that you've become angry with me in the past when I and other people told you how to live your life, but I honestly feel like this situation should not have happened. Of course, we all strive for accuracy and efficiency with the colors we do and the requests we take in this thread. If I subconsciously let a request hang for so long, I would certainly want to know about it and I would certainly let the requestor know that I am sorry I let such a thing happen. For the sake of completion and professionalism, I really think you should do those colors and end this once and for all. Of course, you don't have to, but I think it would be best for @JasonGenova53, you, and the thread as a whole.

Then you can do the colors if you want. I don’t even remember which ones they were, honestly. Also, if someone kept requesting colors but no one got around to doing it, I’d learn how to do it myself. I do, as I’ve said, have other things in life going on and I don’t always come on here or a more pressing matter comes up and I forget entirely. I am sorry that I haven’t done those colors, but you can do them. I’m fine with you doing it and then we can all stop talking about it. The requests get overwhelming at times especially when people don’t even check what’s already on the chart and I get annoyed. I know you do, too, because it’s something that’s been beaten to death way too many times. Thanks for publicly calling me out, though 😑😶😞

 

[JaCor653]

Then you can do the colors if you want. I don’t even remember which ones they were, honestly. Also, if someone kept requesting colors but no one got around to doing it, I’d learn how to do it myself. I do, as I’ve said, have other things in life going on and I don’t always come on here or a more pressing matter comes up and I forget entirely. I am sorry that I haven’t done those colors, but you can do them. I’m fine with you doing it and then we can all stop talking about it. The requests get overwhelming at times especially when people don’t even check what’s already on the chart and I get annoyed. I know you do, too, because it’s something that’s been beaten to death way too many times. Thanks for publicly calling me out, though 😑😶😞

I apologize for calling you out on this publicly. I admit that I should have discussed this in a private message, but I felt that since it involved another GTPlanet user (@JasonGenova53), it was worthy of going in the main thread. I do see now why this was a poor decision, and I will not do it again. With regards to the colors, the only ones that still remain undone are Arancio Xanto and Grigio Adamas. I've actually done Arancio Xanto for my own spreadsheet, so that will be easy to copy here. Grigio Adamas is also a pretty straightforward color. I'll post those two later tonight, and then I think that's enough controversy for a while. I admit that I've been pretty intense with getting old requests done and replacing inaccurate colors the last couple of days. I guess I just kept finding things that weren't 100% the way they were supposed to be and I rapid-fire announced them and it was a bit much. I haven't done anything more with the Grabber Limes yet. I'll add my version of the 1971 color and the metallic color to the spreadsheet but leave your version of the 2020 color how it is. I contacted @Mitcho2001 regarding the metallic color, and I am not going to do anything with it until I hear back from him.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I apologize for calling you out on this publicly. I admit that I should have discussed this in a private message, but I felt that since it involved another GTPlanet user (@JasonGenova53), it was worthy of going in the main thread. I do see now why this was a poor decision, and I will not do it again. With regards to the colors, the only ones that still remain undone are Arancio Xanto and Grigio Adamas. I've actually done Arancio Xanto for my own spreadsheet, so that will be easy to copy here. Grigio Adamas is also a pretty straightforward color. I'll post those two later tonight, and then I think that's enough controversy for a while. I admit that I've been pretty intense with getting old requests done and replacing inaccurate colors the last couple of days. I guess I just kept finding things that weren't 100% the way they were supposed to be and I rapid-fire announced them and it was a bit much. I haven't done anything more with the Grabber Limes yet. I'll add my version of the 1971 color and the metallic color to the spreadsheet but leave your version of the 2020 color how it is. I contacted @Mitcho2001 regarding the metallic color, and I am not going to do anything with it until I hear back from him.

It’s alright. I know the amount of requests we get is overwhelming which is why I step aside sometimes because I honestly can’t keep up half the time, but sometimes I do the ones that I’m able to at the moment. We’re all doing the best we can which is what matters

 

[JaCor653]

Hello everyone,

I would like to re-request a few Lamborghini paint colours; 1) Grigio Titans, 2) Grigio Adam’s, and 3) Arancio Xantos.

Cheers and keep up the great work!

Arancio Xanto (Lamborghini)

Paint Material: Metal Flake

• Lowlight: 0.04R, 1.00R, 0.99L
• Highlight: 0.07L, 0.93L, 1.00R

Grigio Adamas (Lamborghini)

Paint Material: Two-Tone Matte

• Lowlight: 0.61R, 0.01L, 0.92R
• Highlight: 0.67L, 0.01R, 0.70L

 

[PlumCrazy010]

Okay, so I was going through the spreadsheet to run the reference images for the new colors for the month. I notice someone has added Mercedes-Benz Galactic Beam, which is a color I had done some time ago. The problem is, Galactic Beam is not a metal flake, it is a purple-to-pink two-tone:

This was my implementation:

You may think it needs adjustment, but at least it is the right paint type. Which brings me to: the colors from posts 3099, 3110, 3161 and 3176 are still not in the table. Could we please finally get those in?

Thanks.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Okay, so I was going through the spreadsheet to run the reference images for the new colors for the month. I notice someone has added Mercedes-Benz Galactic Beam, which is a color I had done some time ago. The problem is, Galactic Beam is not a metal flake, it is a purple-to-pink two-tone:

View attachment 1136380View attachment 1136381View attachment 1136382

This was my implementation:

View attachment 1136383

You may think it needs adjustment, but at least it is the right paint type. Which brings me to: the colors from posts 3099, 3110, 3161 and 3176 are still not in the table. Could we please finally get those in?

Thanks.

I did Galactic Beam the other day and added it to the chart. It actually is a metal flake paint job, not a color shift one even though it looks like it. If you look closely, you can see the metal flakes in these pics of it:

Even on this reference image you can see the metal flakes as well:

Regarding the colors that haven’t been added to the chart, we honestly have to sift through the entire thing now and find them because I honestly don’t remember them I actually don’t remember if @JaCor653 and @Mitcho2001 were allowing you as well to contribute colors to the chart or if it was just us three. I didn’t add them to the chart for that reason, truthfully.

 

[Stang616]

I see a lot of complaints from people in regards to not having colors or inaccurate colors in the chart. To be perfectly frank, these guys dedicate a lot of time to this spreadsheet and real life gets in the way, as it should, and something like this takes effort and time.

If there is something that you are not satisfied with in the chart or a color you requested hasn't been done yet. You always have to option to try it yourself and use your version if you think it looks better. Calling @Mitcho2001 and @MadaraxUchiha out doesn't accomplish anything other than cause strife and motivates them even less to respond to requests and fill in the chart.

No one is forcing you to use the color chart, it's an option and a valuable resource for folks who don't have to talent for painting.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I see a lot of complaints from people in regards to not having colors or inaccurate colors in the chart. To be perfectly frank, these guys dedicate a lot of time to this spreadsheet and real life gets in the way, as it should, and something like this takes effort and time.

If there is something that you are not satisfied with in the chart or a color you requested hasn't been done yet. You always have to option to try it yourself and use your version if you think it looks better. Calling @Mitcho2001 and @MadaraxUchiha out doesn't accomplish anything other than cause strife and motivates them even less to respond to requests and fill in the chart.

No one is forcing you to use the color chart, it's an option and a valuable resource for folks who don't have to talent for painting.

Thank you I’m glad that someone understands and appreciates all that we’re doing here. There were honestly times that doing this caused arguments between me and my boyfriend because I was spending more time adding colors to the chart than spending time with him, and I really don’t want to end up doing that again which is why I haven’t been getting around to all the requests and stuff It may seem simple and easy but it is very time consuming and we’ve sunk countless hours into doing this, all for free mind you. As I’ve said before, we’re not getting paid for this and no one is forcing us to do this, but we do it because we love cars, colors and we want to provide more paint options than any of the games meager default options. So I am very thankful for all those that understand this and come into this knowing that, and knowing that we do give our best effort and do give our time to this.

 

[JaCor653]

@MadaraxUchiha, I added the colors from @PlumCrazy010's first two posts he mentioned (3,099 and 3,110). Do you think you could add the colors from the other two posts (3,161 and 3,176) when you get a chance?

 

[PlumCrazy010]

I did Galactic Beam the other day and added it to the chart. It actually is a metal flake paint job, not a color shift one even though it looks like it. If you look closely, you can see the metal flakes in these pics of it:

Well, I don't know. Perhaps the color-shifter is a special edition?

http://veh-markets.com/cars/mercede...cticbeam-limited-production-won039t-last.html

 

[SlowJRNalist]

@MadaraxUchiha, I added the colors from @PlumCrazy010's first two posts he mentioned (3,099 and 3,110). Do you think you could add the colors from the other two posts (3,161 and 3,176) when you get a chance?

Was one of them mine by any chance? I was wondering if I should have a crack at making a few but from what you've seen I haven't been doing that well 😅😅😅

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Well, I don't know. Perhaps the color-shifter is a special edition?

http://veh-markets.com/cars/mercede...cticbeam-limited-production-won039t-last.html

View attachment 1136498View attachment 1136499

I still see the metal flake in that picture as well 🤷🏼‍♂️

@JaCor653 Yes, I’ll add them when I get the chance

 

[JaCor653]

I still see the metal flake in that picture as well 🤷🏼‍♂️

@JaCor653 Yes, I’ll add them when I get the chance

I did post 3,176. That just leaves post 3,161.

 

[PlumCrazy010]

I still see the metal flake in that picture as well 🤷🏼‍♂️

@JaCor653 Yes, I’ll add them when I get the chance

It has flake, and it has color-shift too. These things are not mutually exclusive outside of the Forza engine. I guess I just see the color-shift as the more defining characteristic of this finish, at least on the G-Wagen.

I'm not convinced that the color on the AMG GTR is the same. It looks dissimilar to the others when I do a Google search:

I was thinking it might be closest to the 3rd down on the far right, but that turned out to be a scale model.

 

[porteadr]

Hello friends, excuse me, does anyone know if it exists or do we have some kind of updated list with the color codes? (Color Name, Hue, Saturation & Brightness)

 

[JaCor653]

@PlumCrazy010 I am taking @MadaraxUchiha's side on this one. Yes, Galactic Beam is a color-shifting paint color, but it is also metallic. In Forza, it is best represented as Metal Flake with the saturation sliders set closer to the high end. I've done other colors like this, color-shifting metallic colors, such as Chevrolet's Bermuda Blue. Your version of Galactic Beam is fine, and it looks good; however, it does not have the metal flakes which are a defining aspect of the color. You can defend your color all you want, but @MadaraxUchiha's version is more accurate and worthy of staying in the spreadsheet.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Hello friends, excuse me, does anyone know if it exists or do we have some kind of updated list with the color codes? (Color Name, Hue, Saturation & Brightness)

Someone will have to send you a link to the spreadsheet I tried but it ended up showing the entire spreadsheet on here ‘-.-

 

[porteadr]

Someone will have to send you a link to the spreadsheet I tried but it ended up showing the entire spreadsheet on here ‘-.-

Bro, could you send me to my email? adrian.porte.porte@icloud.com 🙏🏻🙏🏻

 

[JaCor653]

Someone will have to send you a link to the spreadsheet I tried but it ended up showing the entire spreadsheet on here ‘-.-

The link to the spreadsheet is at the top of the first post of this thread. Also, I added more colors to the spreadsheet:

Aston Martin
Yellow Tang (1960s version, solid color)

Chevrolet
Dark Ash Metallic (2022 Chevrolet Tahoe)
Glacier Blue Metallic (2022 Chevrolet Silverado; different than the version already in the spreadsheet)
Sand Dune Metallic (2022 Chevrolet Colorado and Silverado)

Coda
Black
Dark Blue
Gray
Light Blue
Red
Silver
White Pearl
White
Yellow

Ferrari
Sabbia del Deserto

Ford
VooDoo Blue
Yellow Gold Metallic

Koenigsegg
Anthracite

McLaren
Delta Red (The color of Tavarish's 675LT when it was crashed)
Seca Blue

Renault
Sports Blue (1995 Renault Clio Williams)

 

[PlumCrazy010]

i guess I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing here:

I still believe the color on the GTR is suspect. Apart from the one Pinterest post, I am seeing scant evidence that Galactic Beam was offered on anything other than the G-Wagen. This suggests two possibilities:

1. The car is a special-order car. Not out of the question for such an expensive car.
2. Pinterest guy got the color wrong.

I am suspecting number 2, because the GTR is a coarse-grain metalflake, with the flake clearly prominent at a distance, while the other samples of Galactic Beam are more of a fine-grain pearlescent. Additionally, the GTR does not show any noticeable color-shift and does not have the prominent magenta undertones of the other samples.

So what color do I think the GTR actually is? Probably Northern Lights Violet Metallic. It is a legit coarse-gran metal flake, with no significant color-shift properties:

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

i guess I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing here:

View attachment 1136764View attachment 1136765View attachment 1136766View attachment 1136767

I still believe the color on the GTR is suspect. Apart from the one Pinterest post, I am seeing scant evidence that Galactic Beam was offered on anything other than the G-Wagen. This suggests two possibilities:

1. The car is a special-order car. Not out of the question for such an expensive car.
2. Pinterest guy got the color wrong.

I am suspecting number 2, because the GTR is a coarse-grain metalflake, with the flake clearly prominent at a distance, while the other samples of Galactic Beam are more of a fine-grain pearlescent. Additionally, the GTR does not show any noticeable color-shift and does not have the prominent magenta undertones of the other samples.

So what color do I think the GTR actually is? Probably Northern Lights Violet Metallic. It is a legit coarse-gran metal flake, with no significant color-shift properties:

View attachment 1136770View attachment 1136771

Please stop already. This is becoming obsessive and tiresome. I also added Northern Lights Metallic to the chart a few days ago and I know they’re not the same color. Also, just because you showed those colors on the Wagen of Galactic Pearl doesn’t mean I used the same reference pictures when making it.