Forza Horizon 4 - Colour Creation Database (CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS) *READ FIRST POST*

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McLaren Cerberus Pearl: Which Version Should be Added to the Spreadsheet?

  • JaCor653: Base - 0.72 L, 0.71 L, 0.97 R/Highlight - 0.11 L, 1.00 R, 0.96 R (Two-Tone Polished)

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • Mitcho2001: Base - 0.63 R, 0.65 L, 0.98 R/Highlight - 0.08 R, 1.00 R, 0.99 L (Two-Tone Polished)

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
You aren’t the only one. I probably drove the FG X the most out of all of the Falcon models in Horizon 3, which should say how much I enjoyed it.
I'm just hoping they bring back the DeTomaso Pantera (it was in that huge leak list) and I really want them to add the 2020 BMW M8 Competition. I swear BMW and Audi keep getting shafted in the game while Porsche keeps getting more cars added. Hopefully we get more BMW's or Audi's for the season after the current one.

And I would really love to see one of these added:

1991-1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon

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Buick Roadmaster.jpg


Buick Roadmaster 2.jpg


Buick Roadmaster 3.jpg


Buick Roadmaster 4.jpeg


We need more wagon representation in game lol
 
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Got a fair amount of colours to drop from the past few days. Some of them have been redone, while others are brand new.
Alfa Romeo
Alfa Romeo - Nero Carbonio.png

Nero Carbonio
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.00 L
Flake
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.06 R

Alfa Romeo - Nero Fuoco.png

Nero Fuoco
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.80 L
Saturation: 0.11 R
Brightness: 0.17 L
Flake
Hue:
0.80 R
Saturation: 0.07 L
Brightness: 0.29 L

Alfa Romeo - Verde Acero Metallizzato.png

Verde Acero Metallizzato
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.36 L
Saturation: 0.44 R
Brightness: 0.27 L
Flake
Hue:
0.36 R
Saturation: 0.31 R
Brightness: 0.38 L

Aston Martin
Aston Martin - Almond Green.png

Almond Green
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.43 R
Saturation: 0.25 R
Brightness: 0.44 L
Flake
Hue:
0.43 R
Saturation: 0.22 L
Brightness: 0.53 R

Aston Martin - Peony Red.png

Peony Red
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.00 R
Saturation: 0.92 L
Brightness: 0.62 R

Audi
Audi - Ipanema Brown.png

Ipanema Brown (redone)
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.07 L
Saturation: 0.86 L
Brightness: 0.46 R
Flake
Hue:
0.07 R
Saturation: 0.69 L
Brightness: 0.58 L

BMW
BMW - Protonic Red.png

Protonic Red (redone)
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.63 L
Flake
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.96 L
Brightness: 0.69 R

BMW - Yas Marina Blue.png

Yas Marina Blue
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.57 L
Saturation: 0.61 L
Brightness: 0.89 R

Bugatti
Bugatti - Beige Gold Metallic.png

Beige Gold Metallic
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.07 R
Saturation: 0.20 R
Brightness: 0.72 L
Flake
Hue:
0.09 L
Saturation: 0.21 R
Brightness: 0.85 R

Bugatti - Black Blue Metallic.png

Black Blue Metallic
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.60 R
Saturation: 0.16 L
Brightness: 0.20 L
Flake
Hue:
0.60 L
Saturation: 0.48 R
Brightness: 0.34 L

Bugatti - Exposed Carbon Fiber.png

Exposed Carbon Fiber
Paint Type:
Carbon Fiber Polished
Hue: 0.71 R
Saturation: 0.13 R
Brightness: 0.23 L

Bugatti - French Racing Blue.png

French Racing Blue
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.56 R
Saturation: 0.84 L
Brightness: 0.97 R

Dodge
Dodge - F8 Green.png

F8 Green (redone)
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.26 L
Saturation: 0.57 R
Brightness: 0.27 R
Flake
Hue:
0.26 L
Saturation: 0.40 L
Brightness: 0.39 R

Ferrari
Ferrari - Glossy Brilliant Silver.png

Glossy Brilliant Silver
Paint Type:
Aluminum Seligloss
Hue: 0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.78 L

Ferrari - Gold.png

Gold
Paint Type:
Aluminum Semigloss
Hue: 0.09 R
Saturation: 0.40 R
Brightness: 0.78 R

Ferrari - Matt Grigio Corsa.png

Matt Grigio Corsa
Paint Type:
Matte
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.13 R

Ferrari - Rosso Corsa (322).png

Rosso Corsa (322) [redone]
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.01 L
Saturation: 0.89 R
Brightness: 0.76 R

Ford
Ford - Havana.png

Havana
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.09 R
Saturation: 0.12 R
Brightness: 0.35 L
Flake
Hue:
0.10 R
Saturation: 0.14 L
Brightness: 0.54 R

Ford - Lightning Strike.png

Lightning Strike
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.61 L
Saturation: 0.02 R
Brightness: 0.63 R
Flake
Hue:
0.61 L
Saturation: 0.02 L
Brightness: 0.77 R

Ford - Royal Crimson.png

Royal Crimson (redone)
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 1.00 R
Brightness: 0.23 R
Flake
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.68 L
Brightness: 0.35 R

Ford - Silhouette.png

Silhouette
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.57 R
Saturation: 0.16 L
Brightness: 0.09 L
Flake
Hue:
0.57 L
Saturation: 0.12 R
Brightness: 0.11 L

Ford - Sunburst Orange.png

Sunburst Orange
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.06 R
Saturation: 0.89 L
Brightness: 0.77 L
Flake
Hue:
0.07 R
Saturation: 0.95 L
Brightness: 0.86 L

Ford - Swift.png

Swift
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.48 L
Saturation: 0.72 R
Brightness: 0.45 R
Flake
Hue:
0.47 L
Saturation: 0.97 L
Brightness: 0.67 R

Ford - Vanish.png

Vanish
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.60 R
Saturation: 0.58 R
Brightness: 0.35 L
Flake
Hue:
0.60 L
Saturation: 0.59 R
Brightness: 0.55 L

Ford - Vixen.png

Vixen
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.99 R
Saturation: 1.00 L
Brightness: 0.89 L

Ford - Winter White.png

Winter White
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.37 R
Saturation: 0.01 R
Brightness: 0.90 L

Jaguar
Jaguar - Caesium Blue.png

Caesium Blue
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.62 R
Saturation: 0.85 L
Brightness: 0.39 R
Flake
Hue:
0.62 L
Saturation: 0.65 L
Brightness: 0.51 R

Jaguar - Yulong White.png

Yulong White
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.56 L
Saturation: 0.04 L
Brightness: 0.85 R
Flake
Hue:
0.56 L
Saturation: 0.03 R
Brightness: 0.97 L

Jaguar/Land Rover
JaguarLand Rover - Santorini Black.png

Santorini Black
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.00 L
Flake
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.00 L
Brightness: 0.06 L

Lamborghini
Lamborghini - Blu Fontus.png

Blu Fontus
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.67 L
Saturation: 0.50 R
Brightness: 0.15 R
Flake
Hue:
0.67 L
Saturation: 0.37 L
Brightness: 0.36 R

McLaren
McLaren - Pearl White.png

Pearl White
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.27 L
Saturation: 0.02 L
Brightness: 0.85 R
Flake
Hue:
0.27 L
Saturation: 0.01 R
Brightness: 0.97 R

Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi - Apex Silver.png

Apex Silver
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.54 R
Saturation: 0.07 L
Brightness: 0.75 L
Flake
Hue:
0.54 L
Saturation: 0.06 R
Brightness: 0.86 L

Nissan
Nissan - Midnight Purple III.png

Midnight Purple III
Paint Type:
Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue:
0.61 L
Saturation: 0.62 R
Brightness: 0.53 R
Highlight
Hue:
0.88 R
Saturation: 0.45 L
Brightness: 0.46 R

Noble
Noble - Baby Blue.png

Baby Blue
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.56 L
Saturation: 0.47 L
Brightness: 0.86 R

Porsche
Porsche - Weissach White Gold.png

Weissach White Gold
Paint Type:
Aluminum Semigloss
Hue: 0.11 R
Saturation: 0.18 L
Brightness: 0.80 L

RAYS Volk
RAYS Volk - Magnesium Blue.png

Magnesium Blue
Paint Type:
Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue:
0.64 L
Saturation: 0.64 R
Brightness: 0.33 L
Highlight
Hue:
0.62 L
Saturation: 0.49 R
Brightness: 0.67 R

Renault
Renault - Rouge de Feu.png

Rouge de Feu
Paint Type:
Metal Flake
Base
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.84 R
Brightness: 0.48 L
Flake
Hue:
0.00 L
Saturation: 0.68 L
Brightness: 0.60 R

Renault - Rouge Vif.png

Rouge Vif
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.00 L
Saturation: 0.83 R
Brightness: 0.81 L

Saleen
Saleen - Lizstick Red.png

Lizstick Red
Paint Type:
Two-Tone Polished
Base
Hue:
1.00 R
Saturation: 1.00 L
Brightness: 0.97 L
Highlight
Hue:
0.99 L
Saturation: 0.93 R
Brightness: 1.00 L
*I have seen the example created by @JaCor653, and I don't intend to replace that with this. From a number of reference images, the orange flake is (clearly) visible, whereas it isn't in others. Going to be leaving this one alone for now.*

Saleen - Speedlab Yellow.png

Speedlab Yellow
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.13 L
Saturation: 0.82 R
Brightness: 0.97 L

SIDE NOTE
With the help of @PlumCrazy010, he has created a folder of screenshots of every colour in the public spreadsheet. The folder can be viewed here and will also be available to find in my first post in the thread.
 
Why is every custom two-tone gloss or metal flake color looking ingame like some sort of chromish wrap? I it has reflection but it´s not that deep like default manufacturer colors :confused: Does it have to do something with Forza lighting engine?
 
Noble
noble-baby-blue-png.955786

Baby Blue
Paint Type:
Normal
Hue: 0.56 L
Saturation: 0.47 L
Brightness: 0.86 R

I'm halfway through recreating all of the Noble M600 colors. I've got this one done, because it was the first one alphabetically. I'll be posting the rest today. Should I include Baby Blue, or should I omit it?
 
Baby Blue (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.58R, 0.44R, 0.92L

@Mitcho2001, I most likely won't be adding this to the spreadsheet. I figured I'd just post it here for completion's sake. If only I'd finished the Noble colors yesterday. . .

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Black (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.67R, 0.08L, 0.05R

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Dark Blue (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.60L, 0.99R, 0.44L
- Flake Color: 0.60L, 1.00R, 0.51R

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Dark Grey (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.67L, 0.04L, 0.23R
- Flake Color: 0.66L, 0.06R, 0.49R

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Dove Grey (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.57R
- Flake Color: 0.00L, 0.00L 0.82R

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Lime Green (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.21L, 0.70L, 0.79R
- Flake Color: 0.20L, 0.48L, 0.89R

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Mid Blue (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.58L, 0.85R, 0.79R
- Flake Color: 0.58R, 0.70L, 0.83L

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Mid Grey (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.39R
- Flake Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.67R

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Olive Green (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.15L, 0.77L, 0.33R

In my opinion, this is a terrible looking color. What was Noble thinking?

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Orange (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.07L, 1.00R, 0.91L
- Flake Color: 0.07L, 1.00R, 1.00R

3feb2bf6-2156-4d71-bd57-b960ad13e929.jpg


Red (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00L, 0.98R, 0.66L
- Flake Color: 0.00L, 0.99R, 0.90R

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Silver (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.63R
- Flake Color: 0.17R, 0.01L, 0.91R

9cb9aa5f-3c1a-4f6c-9331-aeb9d96a927c.jpg


Very Dark Blue (Noble)

Paint Material:
Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.66L, 0.97R, 0.31R
- Flake Color: 0.67L, 0.95L, 0.42R

f877326b-7e60-4018-82ba-9c8a73bed4dc.jpg


White (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.94R

f1c9f9d3-1b24-4846-8fce-71f343932c92.jpg


Yellow (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.13L, 0.95R, 0.91R

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Hey, just wondering. Is the link on the first page the updated list or is there a newer one? If there is could I please get the link to it? Cheers.

See, here's how this works. When you paste a link to a document of some sort to a website or a forum thread such as this one, the link takes you to the most recent version of the document linked. That's the only thing that would make sense. What's the point of having a link to an outdated file? Know, I don't know that much about software development or computer programming, but that just doesn't make sense. What I do have is common sense, which tells me that the link goes to the most recent version of the file. You can also find out following the link and looking at the number of colors (rows). If it's over 6,000 or so, then it is the most recent version. It will always link to the most recent version of the file, no matter when in time we're talking about. Tomorrow, it will link to the most recent version. Five years from now, it will link to the most recent version. That's just how it works. You never have to worry about outdated versions when you're working with cloud storage and backup.
 
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VXR
@Mitcho2001 Yas Marina Blue is a metallic.
Turns out it is. Should be an easy fix though, given I just have to use the colour sample and take the darkest and lightest points for the base and flake respectively. This also says I probably need to do that extra bit of research as well, haha. :lol:

Why is every custom two-tone gloss or metal flake color looking ingame like some sort of chromish wrap? It has reflection but it´s not that deep like default manufacturer colors :confused: Does it have to do something with Forza lighting engine?
I'm no expert on this, but I think it's due to the lighting engine. One of the prime culprits of being misleading was my original attempt at Porsche's Fayence Yellow, which had a hue value of 0.13 L according to the sample I used. While it looked (pretty much) accurate when creating it, it was too bright a yellow in the open world; it didn't have much of a slight orange tint. So while I don't know a definitive answer, it may be the game's lighting engine. :confused:

Baby Blue (Noble)

Paint Material:
Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.58R, 0.44R, 0.92L

@Mitcho2001, I most likely won't be adding this to the spreadsheet. I figured I'd just post it here for completion's sake. If only I'd finished the Noble colors yesterday...
I've been beaten to colours before, so I know what that feels like. But the good thing is we do have another manufacturer added to the list. Truth be told, I only planned to do Baby Blue as I had a feeling that either you or @MadaraxUchiha may have been working on the others.
 
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not sure any1 did this cx-75 color? if so can i get the name for it so i can look it up on the spreadsheet...

this is apparently the color of the car from spectre

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/jaguar/cx75/2015/710480 all i get is that its orange not sure if its the official name of the color

It think it's supposed to be the Jaguar color Firesand. I did that color a while ago; it's in the spreadsheet.

The quantum silver for aston martin is wrong it isn't supposed to be a bluish tint

Spectre silver is also off it's more tan than silver sorry I'm an aston guy

If you're such an expert, then how about you post pictures of how the colors are supposed to look.
 
hey guys i still very much enjoy the work that you all put into this amazing spreadsheet, i use it all the time to put unique colors on my cars and couldn’t be more happy with it! but i discovered a little fault yesterday when i wanted to apply mantis green on my 720s, the color itself looks spot on but it supposed to have a metallic flake in it. the color is available in the game as a manufacturer color on the 650s and i can clearly see a flake in it, i tried to replicate it but it didn’t look good, so i wanted to ask if any of you paint wizards could do a better job than me ;) if it's easier to replicate with real pictures i added a link to the instagram account of a guy who owns a mantis green 720s and has many pictures of it with different lighting.:)

https://www.instagram.com/tailwag/
 
It think it's supposed to be the Jaguar color Firesand. I did that color a while ago; it's in the spreadsheet.





If you're such an expert, then how about you post pictures of how the colors are supposed to look.
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I was not trying to be a jerk I was just simply letting you know I spotted colors that where off trying to be helpful so other people don't have the issue sorry if I seemed like a jerk
 

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hey guys i still very much enjoy the work that you all put into this amazing spreadsheet, i use it all the time to put unique colors on my cars and couldn’t be more happy with it! but i discovered a little fault yesterday when i wanted to apply mantis green on my 720s, the color itself looks spot on but it supposed to have a metallic flake in it. the color is available in the game as a manufacturer color on the 650s and i can clearly see a flake in it, i tried to replicate it but it didn’t look good, so i wanted to ask if any of you paint wizards could do a better job than me ;) if it's easier to replicate with real pictures i added a link to the instagram account of a guy who owns a mantis green 720s and has many pictures of it with different lighting.:)

https://www.instagram.com/tailwag/
I’m the one that did Mantis Green a long time ago, and at the time the reference picture I used didn’t show the metal flake so I just assumed it was a gloss color. My mistake. However, this time I’ll let @JaCor653 handle it because he’s done some really great McLaren colors :)

This is the reference picture I initially used:

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I’m glad you brought it up otherwise we would’ve had the wrong values for the color still up there, and we’re here to correct that stuff when necessary.
 
I’m the one that did Mantis Green a long time ago, and at the time the reference picture I used didn’t show the metal flake so I just assumed it was a gloss color. My mistake. However, this time I’ll let @JaCor653 handle it because he’s done some really great McLaren colors :)

This is the reference picture I initially used:

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I’m glad you brought it up otherwise we would’ve had the wrong values for the color still up there, and we’re here to correct that stuff when necessary.

no problem dude, other than the missing flake which is very difficult to see on most pictures you did a great job with the color! 👍
 
@JaCor653 @Mitcho2001 @2004camry I'm redoing both Quantum Silver and Spectre Silver as we speak :)

Here they are :)

Quantum Silver (Aston Martin)

Paint Type:
Metal Flake
- Base: 0.11 L, 0.13 R, 0.09 L
- Flake: 0.00 L, 0.01 R, 0.59 L

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Spectre Silver (Aston Martin)

Paint Type:
Metal Flake
- Base: 0.12 L, 0.07 R, 0.22 L
- Flake: 0.16 L, 0.00 R, 0.95 L

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Thank you so much
 
I’m the one that did Mantis Green a long time ago, and at the time the reference picture I used didn’t show the metal flake so I just assumed it was a gloss color. My mistake. However, this time I’ll let @JaCor653 handle it because he’s done some really great McLaren colors :)

This is the reference picture I initially used:

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I’m glad you brought it up otherwise we would’ve had the wrong values for the color still up there, and we’re here to correct that stuff when necessary.
Speaking of mclaren I noticed volcano orange was off just trying to help and report findings
 
Thank you so much
@JaCor653 @Mitcho2001 @2004camry I'm redoing both Quantum Silver and Spectre Silver as we speak :)

Here they are :)

Quantum Silver (Aston Martin)

Paint Type:
Metal Flake
- Base: 0.11 L, 0.13 R, 0.09 L
- Flake: 0.00 L, 0.01 R, 0.59 L

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Spectre Silver (Aston Martin)

Paint Type:
Metal Flake
- Base: 0.12 L, 0.07 R, 0.22 L
- Flake: 0.16 L, 0.00 R, 0.95 L

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A little bit lighter on the silver for spectre and it will be brilliant just trying to help
 

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A little bit lighter on the silver for spectre and it will be brilliant just trying to help
Ok, now I’m annoyed. First off let me tell you that each and every one of us puts a lot of time and effort into the colors we do. We don’t have to do this, we’re not getting paid for any of this, we do this on our own personal free time, but we do it because it’s something we love doing and we want to have for people to enjoy. For the colors that I do, I use the actual paint chips so that’s how the color is supposed to look, plain and simple. What you need to realize is that a lot of photos you see are edited or they are oversaturated so what you see is wrong and inaccurate. Also, have you calibrated the settings on your tv? Do you even have a 4K UHD tv like I do? If you have different tv settings that can also change how something looks. For someone that isn’t contributing jack **** to the chart you have an awful lot to say about what is right or wrong. How about you start making colors so we can tell you what looks off or what’s what? Would that be better? As I’ve said, I used the paint chips for the colors by the manufacturer so what you see is how it’s supposed to look. If you don’t like it, you can redo it yourself. I’d thank twice before making requests here also because you’re burning your bridges with the creators, do keep in mind there are only 3 of us that regularly and frequently add to the chart. So what you see is what you get unless you do it your own damn self. You’re sounding ungrateful and not respecting the time and effort we’re putting into this. Again, an entirely free service.
 
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