Forza Horizon 4: General Discussion

[WanganDream]

Let's take a look back at the past.
In Forza Motorsport 3, Turn 10 and Jalopnik collaborated on a campaign to determine which cars would be included in the "Forzalopnik" DLC based on a vote on Jalopnik's website.

However, this wasn't the end of the project.
Since FM4, they have added many of the cars that were eliminated in this tournament to the Forza.
And the 205 and Pulsar were among the cars that were selected as candidates for this campaign. (It was a 205 GTI, to be exact)

Of course, Pulsar and 205 have also been the desired cars on community wish list for many years.
These weren't the flashy cars that many players liked, like the Pista and Performante, but they were always cheered on by die-hard fans.
While there's no denying that this latest addition takes that into account, it's safe to say that the cars that participated in the Forzalopnik DLC tournament are the ones that will likely be added to Forza in the future.

Postscript: all the car listings for Forzalopnik. (Cars that haven't been added to the game yet are in bold.)

Spoiler

• 1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
  
• 1965 Fiat Abarth 1000 TCR
  
• 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS
  
• 1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
  
• 1968 Holden Monaro GTS Coupe
  
• 1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396
  
• 1971 De Tomaso Pantera (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1972 Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3
  
• 1977 Mazda RX-3 SP (Added as the 1973 RX-3)
  
• 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
  
• 1987 BMW M5
  
• 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R
  
• 1992 Nissan Sentra SE-R
  
• 1994 Chevrolet Impala SS
  
• 1995 Acura Legend Sedan GS
  
• 1995 Volvo 850 T-5R (Added as the 1997 850R)
  
• 1998 Alfa Romeo 155 GTA (Added as the 1992 155 Q4)
  
• 1998 Citroen ZX 2.0L
  
• 1999 BMW M5
  
• 1959 BMW 507
  
• 1968 Dodge Dart GTS (Added as the 1968 Dart Hemi Super Stock)
  
• 1970 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona
  
• 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
  
• 1972 Ford Gran Torino Sport
  
• 1973 Ford Falcon GT XB
  
• 1976 Ford Gran Torino
  
• 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
  
• 1984 Fiat Strada Abarth 130 TC
  
• 1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
  
• 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV/6
  
• 1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
  
• 1988 Renault 5 Turbo
  
• 1989 Fiat X1/9
  
• 1990 Alfa Romeo Milano/75
  
• 1992 GMC Syclone (Deleted on FH3)
  
• 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution I GSR
  
• 1994 Porsche 928 GTS
  
• 1996 Subaru Impreza WRX Type R STi
• 1998 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR
  
• 1956 Lotus 11
  
• 1960 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder SWB
  
• 1965 MG MGB GT
  
• 1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
  
• 1971 Plymouth GTX
  
• 1971 De Tomaso Mangusta
  
• 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
  
• 1977 Saab 99 Turbo (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
  
• 1986 Honda CRX Si (Added as the 1984 Honda Mugen Civic CRX)
  
• 1986 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST165
  
• 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
  
• 1988 Holden Commodore SS Group A SV VL
  
• 1989 Ford Taurus SHO
• 1990 Subaru Legacy RS-RA
  
• 1990 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST185
  
• 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
  
• 1993 GMC Typhoon (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1994 Vauxhall Corsa GSi
• 1962 Ford Thunderbird
• 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
  
• 1970 Buick GSX
  
• 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
  
• 1971 Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III XY
  
• 1974 BMW 2002 Turbo
  
• 1974 Ford Escort RS1600
  
• 1979 Lancia Montecarlo
  
• 1980 Lotus Esprit Turbo 2.2
  
• 1980 Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC AMG
  
• 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
  
• 1989 Toyota MR2 SC
  
• 1992 Jaguar XJR-15
• 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
  
• 1996 Audi RS2 Avant
  
• 1997 Honda Civic Type R
  
• 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
  
• 1998 Volkswagen Golf GTI VR6
• 1965 Pontiac GTO
  
• 1966 Jaguar XJ13
• 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
  
• 1970 Alfa Romeo Montreal
  
• 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
  
• 1978 Ford Mustang King Cobra
  
• 1981 Volkswagen Scirocco S
  
• 1983 Volvo 242 Group A Homologation (Added as the 1983 242 Turbo Evolution)
• 1984 BMW M635CSi
  
• 1984 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
• 1986 Peugeot 205 GTi
• 1988 Nissan GTS-R R31
  
• 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
• 1992 Nissan 240SX SE Coupe (Added as the 1993 240SX SE Hatchback)
  
• 1994 Volkswagen Polo G40
  
• 1997 Subaru Alcoyne SVX
  
• 1999 Lotus Elise Sport 190
  
• 1999 Vauxhall Vectra GSi
  
• 2000 Lexus SC300
  
• 1959 Aston Martin DBR1
  
• 1965 Ford Mustang Coupe Fastback (Added as the 1965 Ford Mustang Coupe and 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback)
  
• 1965 Porsche 356 Carrera 2
  
• 1970 Datsun 240Z (Added as the 1970 Fairlady Z 432)
  
• 1970 Dodge Coronet R/T (Added as the 1970 Coronet Super Bee)
  
• 1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda (Added as the 1971 Cuda 426 Hemi and 1970 Hemi Cuda Convertible Barrett-Jackson Edition)
  
• 1970 Toyota Corolla (Added as the 1974 Corolla SR5)
  
• 1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
  
• 1986 Ford Capri 3.0S (Added as the 1973 Capri RS3100)
  
• 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evo II
  
• 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
  
• 1993 Renault Clio Williams
  
• 1993 Saab 900 Turbo
  
• 1995 BMW 850CSi
  
• 1995 Ferrari 348 GTS
• 1997 Ford Probe GTS
  
• 2000 BMW Z8
  
• 2000 Toyota Chaser
  
• 2002 BMW Z3 M Coupe

 

[-Fred-]

Ah yes, the days when Jalopnik was actually worth reading.

 

[NoobMan DS]

This thing is surprisingly grippy compared to the other Formula Drift cars though; barely any wheelspin noticeable while going flat-out in fourth gear. Well, I guess it does have a massive wing on the back, unlike the other Formula Drift cars in the game. Quite a pleasant surprise considering the fact that I'm not really into drift builds. And it's also sensational to look at!

 

[TheOE]

Im really hoping Turn10/Playground Games dont burn their bridges with Ferrari by adding the Formula Drift 599 into the game. They hate this kind of stuff, which could mean they pull out of the future games

 

[phillgt2002]

Im really hoping Turn10/Playground Games dont burn their bridges with Ferrari by adding the Formula Drift 599 into the game. They hate this kind of stuff, which could mean they pull out of the future games

Lol, I wouldn’t blame Ferrari, I’m tired of the **** too

joking aside, I don’t think they will, especially after NFS

 

[FerrariF1GT]

Im really hoping Turn10/Playground Games dont burn their bridges with Ferrari by adding the Formula Drift 599 into the game. They hate this kind of stuff, which could mean they pull out of the future games

I mean, they do have a strong relationship, going so far as allowing the Liberty Walk kit on the 458...

Nevermind the fact that you can make custom liveries on them... like in GT Sport.

 

[-Fred-]

Most likely they'll ask to have it removed from future games, just like the Liberty Walk kit on the 458.

 

[Stang616]

Most likely they'll ask to have it removed from future games, just like the Liberty Walk kit on the 458.

Assuming they don't relicense the FD cars, it may not be in future games anyway.

 

[Populuxe]

Im really hoping Turn10/Playground Games dont burn their bridges with Ferrari by adding the Formula Drift 599 into the game. They hate this kind of stuff, which could mean they pull out of the future games

Considering a judge has ruled that video game makers do not need to license vehicles to put them in their games, it may not matter what Ferrari thinks.

 

[RazorSharkz]

Considering a judge has ruled that video game makers do not need to license vehicles to put them in their games, it may not matter what Ferrari thinks.

Delorean return confirmed!!!!

 

[Northstar]

Considering a judge has ruled that video game makers do not need to license vehicles to put them in their games, it may not matter what Ferrari thinks.

I don’t see that making much of a difference really, developers benefit from relationships with manufacturers so it is a good idea to maintain a good relationship with them.

 

[L8 Apex]

I don’t see that making much of a difference really, developers benefit from relationships with manufacturers so it is a good idea to maintain a good relationship with them.

Especially when it comes to sourcing pristine and/or hard-to-find examples to model [not that that always makes a difference with T10 and its car modeling subcontractor(s)... ]

 

[nursemorph]

Thanks, I had no idea the Sunny was called the Pulsar elsewhere. I remember that crazy GTi-R with the bonnet grill. Even though I was fairly young at the time, the looks were a bit "boy racer" for me. It was like it had been pre-modded for all those people who liked to mod cars. A performance weapon, for sure, though.

No problem....the Pulsar was the Japanese name for the Sunny....why they felt the need to change the name I don't know but then it happens with a lot of cars. I agree that the bonnet bulge was a little OT...I more wanted the car for it's performance rather than it's looks....my 1.4l Sunny had pretty good performance considering, even after I put 2 12" subwoofers plus amps etc in the boot

 

[strela]

my 1.4l Sunny had pretty good performance considering, even after I put 2 12" subwoofers plus amps etc in the boot

This brings same good memories of times when one large subwoofer was a must. My Dihatsu Charade got that extra boost...
Nostalgia is really kicking in after reading the next content guesses. Fingers crossed.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Car teaser. Looks like a tough one this time.

 

[L8 Apex]

Car teaser. Looks like a tough one this time.

I'm 99.99999% sure that's the Pulsar (looking toward the front of the hood from the right side).

 

[-Fred-]

That's the Pulsar.

 

[Nielsen]

The Pulsar makes for a hilarious teaser when compared to other recent teasers. Nice addition though, if that’s indeed a correct guess.

 

[WanganDream]

Other angle photo. (Source: Forza Horizon Official Instagram)

 

[TokoTurismo]

OMG there it is! Now let me just put this here so I can get it out of me.

Sorry, I had to. I LOVE that car in Gran Turismo. Another great addition to the ever growing roster of cars in Forza! 👍

 

[RazorSharkz]

My starter car in Gran Turismo 2. This is going to be so cool !!!!!!

The Pulsar makes for a hilarious teaser when compared to other recent teasers. Nice addition though, if that’s indeed a correct guess.

For real though it's like

Italdesign Zerouno
Lamborghini Huracan Performante
Ferrari 488 Pista
Aston Martin Vulcan AMR Pro
Nissan Pulsar

I know I missed s bunch but it only seems more out of place the more cars you think about in these teasers.

 

[GTvsForza]

Forza stream on Star Wars Day! What more could I ask for

 

[TheAdmiester]

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Let's take a look back at the past.
In Forza Motorsport 3, Turn 10 and Jalopnik collaborated on a campaign to determine which cars would be included in the "Forzalopnik" DLC based on a vote on Jalopnik's website.

However, this wasn't the end of the project.
Since FM4, they have added many of the cars that were eliminated in this tournament to the Forza.
And the 205 and Pulsar were among the cars that were selected as candidates for this campaign. (It was a 205 GTI, to be exact)

Of course, Pulsar and 205 have also been the desired cars on community wish list for many years.
These weren't the flashy cars that many players liked, like the Pista and Performante, but they were always cheered on by die-hard fans.
While there's no denying that this latest addition takes that into account, it's safe to say that the cars that participated in the Forzalopnik DLC tournament are the ones that will likely be added to Forza in the future.

Postscript: all the car listings for Forzalopnik. (Cars that haven't been added to the game yet are in bold.)

Spoiler

• 1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
  
• 1965 Fiat Abarth 1000 TCR
  
• 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS
  
• 1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
  
• 1968 Holden Monaro GTS Coupe
  
• 1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396
  
• 1971 De Tomaso Pantera (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1972 Mercedes 300 SEL 6.3
  
• 1977 Mazda RX-3 SP (Added as the 1973 RX-3)
  
• 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
  
• 1987 BMW M5
  
• 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R
  
• 1992 Nissan Sentra SE-R
  
• 1994 Chevrolet Impala SS
  
• 1995 Acura Legend Sedan GS
  
• 1995 Volvo 850 T-5R (Added as the 1997 850R)
  
• 1998 Alfa Romeo 155 GTA (Added as the 1992 155 Q4)
  
• 1998 Citroen ZX 2.0L
  
• 1999 BMW M5
  
• 1959 BMW 507
  
• 1968 Dodge Dart GTS (Added as the 1968 Dart Hemi Super Stock)
  
• 1970 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona
  
• 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
  
• 1972 Ford Gran Torino Sport
  
• 1973 Ford Falcon GT XB
  
• 1976 Ford Gran Torino
  
• 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
  
• 1984 Fiat Strada Abarth 130 TC
  
• 1984 Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
  
• 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV/6
  
• 1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
  
• 1988 Renault 5 Turbo
  
• 1989 Fiat X1/9
  
• 1990 Alfa Romeo Milano/75
  
• 1992 GMC Syclone (Deleted on FH3)
  
• 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution I GSR
  
• 1994 Porsche 928 GTS
  
• 1996 Subaru Impreza WRX Type R STi
• 1998 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR
  
• 1956 Lotus 11
  
• 1960 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder SWB
  
• 1965 MG MGB GT
  
• 1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
  
• 1971 Plymouth GTX
  
• 1971 De Tomaso Mangusta
  
• 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
  
• 1977 Saab 99 Turbo (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
  
• 1986 Honda CRX Si (Added as the 1984 Honda Mugen Civic CRX)
  
• 1986 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST165
  
• 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
  
• 1988 Holden Commodore SS Group A SV VL
  
• 1989 Ford Taurus SHO
• 1990 Subaru Legacy RS-RA
  
• 1990 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST185
  
• 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
  
• 1993 GMC Typhoon (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1994 Vauxhall Corsa GSi
• 1962 Ford Thunderbird
• 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
  
• 1970 Buick GSX
  
• 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
  
• 1971 Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III XY
  
• 1974 BMW 2002 Turbo
  
• 1974 Ford Escort RS1600
  
• 1979 Lancia Montecarlo
  
• 1980 Lotus Esprit Turbo 2.2
  
• 1980 Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC AMG
  
• 1988 Pontiac Fiero GT (Deleted on FM5)
  
• 1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
  
• 1989 Toyota MR2 SC
  
• 1992 Jaguar XJR-15
• 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
  
• 1996 Audi RS2 Avant
  
• 1997 Honda Civic Type R
  
• 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
  
• 1998 Volkswagen Golf GTI VR6
• 1965 Pontiac GTO
  
• 1966 Jaguar XJ13
• 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
  
• 1970 Alfa Romeo Montreal
  
• 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
  
• 1978 Ford Mustang King Cobra
  
• 1981 Volkswagen Scirocco S
  
• 1983 Volvo 242 Group A Homologation (Added as the 1983 242 Turbo Evolution)
• 1984 BMW M635CSi
  
• 1984 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
• 1986 Peugeot 205 GTi
• 1988 Nissan GTS-R R31
  
• 1991 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
• 1992 Nissan 240SX SE Coupe (Added as the 1993 240SX SE Hatchback)
  
• 1994 Volkswagen Polo G40
  
• 1997 Subaru Alcoyne SVX
  
• 1999 Lotus Elise Sport 190
  
• 1999 Vauxhall Vectra GSi
  
• 2000 Lexus SC300
  
• 1959 Aston Martin DBR1
  
• 1965 Ford Mustang Coupe Fastback (Added as the 1965 Ford Mustang Coupe and 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback)
  
• 1965 Porsche 356 Carrera 2
  
• 1970 Datsun 240Z (Added as the 1970 Fairlady Z 432)
  
• 1970 Dodge Coronet R/T (Added as the 1970 Coronet Super Bee)
  
• 1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda (Added as the 1971 Cuda 426 Hemi and 1970 Hemi Cuda Convertible Barrett-Jackson Edition)
  
• 1970 Toyota Corolla (Added as the 1974 Corolla SR5)
  
• 1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
  
• 1986 Ford Capri 3.0S (Added as the 1973 Capri RS3100)
  
• 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evo II
  
• 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
  
• 1993 Renault Clio Williams
  
• 1993 Saab 900 Turbo
  
• 1995 BMW 850CSi
  
• 1995 Ferrari 348 GTS
• 1997 Ford Probe GTS
  
• 2000 BMW Z8
  
• 2000 Toyota Chaser
  
• 2002 BMW Z3 M Coupe

Two notes:
- The 323GT-R is mentioned in FH4's files so it's very likely to come
- You've bolded the 1998 GTI VR6 but Forza has this one.

 

[WanganDream]

Two notes:
- The 323GT-R is mentioned in FH4's files so it's very likely to come
- You've bolded the 1998 GTI VR6 but Forza has this one.

Oh, that's a simple mistake. I forgot to turn off the bold option. (Fixed)

 

[Stang616]

Oh, that's a simple mistake. I forgot to turn off the bold option. (Fixed)

Same for the Renault 5 Turbo, we have it too.

 

[-Fred-]

In January of last year, Hoonigan posted this video of Larry Chen getting his R32 GT-R at Sean Morris' shop.



What does that have to do with anything? Watch at 0:50-ish seconds. I was wondering at the time which game team was laser scanning that, seeing how none of them have branded uniforms... guess I know now.

 

[WanganDream]

Same for the Renault 5 Turbo, we have it too.

There are two types of 5 Turbo. One is a Group B mid-engine rally car. And the other is the FWD hot hatch (commonly called Super 5).
The Group B 5 Turbo already existed in FM2, and the model chosen as Jalopnik's DLC candidate was the Super 5.

 

[-Fred-]

The fwd one is usually called the GT Turbo.

 

[drouid2]

i looked into the list of cars that won the manufacture title in wrc and apparently mitsubishi won it only in 1998 but still a possible candidate for clue #1 if clue #2 is for a 1995 celica... if this is the case clue 1 could be a mitsubishi lancer evo iv or v. as the list showed both cars for wining the manufacture title in 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Rally_Championship_Constructors'_champions#By_season

 

[notsofast]

Brought the house for 750k that comes with three Super Wheelspins hoping to win some cash and some cars and ended up with nine emotes/pieces of clothing- to say I was unhappy about this was an understatement..Shortly afterwards I picked up another Super Wheelspin and pulled off McLaren F1/180k cash/ Mustang GT500 which is far and away the best Super Wheelspin I've ever had. Love the McLaren. That V12 certainly sounds much better then the Racing V12 engine thats for sure.