Forza Horizon 4: General Discussion

[-Fred-]

As long as it doesn't become a habit, I don't mind the odd old-gen car here and there once in a while. Just don't go the GT Sport "Here's 10 cars, 9 of which were in the last game but we've totally redone them so they're brand new you guys" route and it'll be fine. Besides, given how many people want the De Tomaso Pantera and Delorean back in the game... there's really no argument here.

 

[Silver Arrows]

As long as it doesn't become a habit, I don't mind the odd old-gen car here and there once in a while. Just don't go the GT Sport "Here's 10 cars, 9 of which were in the last game but we've totally redone them so they're brand new you guys" route and it'll be fine. Besides, given how many people want the De Tomaso Pantera and Delorean back in the game... there's really no argument here.

Exactly. Returning assets from FM4 and older are fine. It's when it makes up the majority of the content where that becomes a problem. But it doesn't look like PG is the type to do that, contrary to other opinion.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Those are fair arguments, I do still want new material to be added to the series and not just brought backs. It's just the thought of me having to wait for another installment for any returns at all would annoy me versus getting some cars brought back now.

 

[Apple Slipper]

Fun fact: Fred V & Grafix's song "Auckland Sunrise" is actually a remastered version of Fred V's old unreleased song called "Raise Your Mind". Took them about seven years to finally release the song.

Fred V - Raise Your Mind


Fred V & Grafix - Auckland Sunrise

 

[Techlet]

How do you know there are only 3 new Forzathon cars?

Do you need me to circle the part where it says "3 New Forzathon Exclusive Cars"?

They have only shown 2, the other one is Community choice, which could be anything from existing cars to something we haven't seen before.

So, 2+1=3?

What are you even trying to say?

That could mean it's an exclusive, it could mean its not an exclusive. Either way your statement is false simply based on the fact that only 2 cars have been shown.

They've, a day or 2 after my post was made (a post which you went back to quote just to chime in on this "you against me" nonsense), actually shown 3. The 2 Hotwheels and the reskinned Hoonicorn, alongside the "community choice" car which was not shown in the pre-release roadmap.

 

[Northstar]

actually shown 3.

One of the Hot Wheels is a prize for a seasonal event, not Forzathon.

 

[Techlet]

One of the Hot Wheels is a prize for a seasonal event, not Forzathon.

You're right.

So, 3 Forzathon exclusive cars in all instead of 4, as I first said. What was @Stang616's problem then?

 

[CSLACR]

You're right.

So, 3 Forzathon exclusive cars in all instead of 4, as I first said. What was @Stang616's problem then?

Probably your attitude in general.

 

[Techlet]

Probably your attitude in general.

Pot and kettle much, coming from you? I'm not going to engage with this any further because this is getting way off topic. Feel free to PM me if you also want to air out some perceived grief.

 

[Populuxe]

I just used the ignore function. I highly recommend it.

 

[PJTierney]

Rivals + S2 + No Assists = Fun

 

[wvmgmidget]

I'm liking the car pass cars. There's a bit too much Hoonigan going on, but the Lamborghini, Vauxhalls, and Stelvio more than make up for it.

The Forzathon cars though... big fat meh. Hopefully the community choice options aren't Hot Wheels, but I doubt it.

I agree with you about the Lambo since I'm never opposed to more convertibles, even if it's from FH1. I would have preferred the Huracan Performante Spyder though. The VX220 is okay, but I prefer it's Lotus counterpart. The other Vauxhall is essentially a hopped up Buick, a brand that I loathe. As for the Alfa, the last thing we need is another performance CUV. None of the rest offer anything special and are mainly rehashes of cars we already have. Each to his own I suppose.

 

[Populuxe]

The other Vauxhall is essentially a hopped up Buick, a brand that I loathe.

I would argue both the Vauxhall and Buick are a hopped up Opel.

 

[wvmgmidget]

I would argue both the Vauxhall and Buick are a hopped up Opel.

Fair point as the Opel Insignia did arrive first, but it was introduced around the same time in China and later the US as the Buick Regal.

 

[RazorSharkz]

The VX220/Opel Speedster is a car I am dissapointed ever left. So I am glad to see it back.

 

[NotThePrez]

I seem to be one of the few excited for the two new Hoonigan cars, especially the Hoonitruck, which looks and sounds absolutely wild. I get that some people don't like Hoonigans style, but their cars always seem to have function ahead of form (or either having form only slightly ahead, or having no function or form whatsoever, but still fun overall). It's also nice to get the proper Group A Escort, even if it does have a ridiculous amount of power. Maybe the Rally engine swap (if available) will bring it down to a more modest level.

For the other cars, the SEMA Mustang and Insignia I'm personally very meh on. The Gallardo Performante I have a soft-spot for, as I've always found the Gallardo spyders better looking than the coupes. The VX220 I think has potential, but I'm not expecting too much. If anything, it'll give me some Hot Pursuit 2 nostalgia. The Stelvio I can probably have some fun with, especially if it comes with the off-road kit. The Maverick looks awesome, and gives the buggy class some much-needed love. I would still really like PG to add some more high-end vehicles to the class, such as a SCORE Class 1 buggy with 500+ horsepower, or something equally as ridiculous to match with the trophy trucks.

 

[Silver Arrows]

I would still really like PG to add some more high-end vehicles to the class, such as a SCORE Class 1 buggy with 500+ horsepower, or something equally as ridiculous to match with the trophy trucks.

Agreed. I suggested the UTV that Arctic Cat is making in conjunction with Robby Gordon up thread as a nice candidate for the buggy class, but what you suggested works wonders as well.

I also hope at some point, PG, if only to give competition to the Unimog, adds one of those monstrous big rigs that Kamaz or MAN use in Dakar.

 

[-Fred-]

I also hope at some point, PG, if only to give competition to the Unimog, adds one of those monstrous big rigs that Kamaz or MAN use in Dakar.

Yes x 1000.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Yes x 1000.

The 1988 DAF TurboTwin Dakar was already referenced in one of the leaks, so it seems that the devs at least want it in.

 

[strela]

More Drift Trucks coming to the game... I guess.

 

[Classicman]

I agree with you about the Lambo since I'm never opposed to more convertibles, even if it's from FH1. I would have preferred the Huracan Performante Spyder though. The VX220 is okay, but I prefer it's Lotus counterpart. The other Vauxhall is essentially a hopped up Buick, a brand that I loathe. As for the Alfa, the last thing we need is another performance CUV. None of the rest offer anything special and are mainly rehashes of cars we already have. Each to his own I suppose.

Nah i disagree on your opinion of the SUV, Or CUV as you call it. I like the idea of more SUVs. I know last year everyone was complaining about all the SUVs in FM7 such as the: Levante, Vovlo XC90, ML63, Range rover ect ect. Many people would prefer these cars in the Horizon setting.

 

[LumpiestFish]

More Drift Trucks coming to the game... I guess.

That’s a very specific date..

Checked the calendar, it’s a Monday, I wonder if that is the date for the first Expansion? Maybe a drifting or Hoonigan inspired expansion?


Edit: I did just see that he’s from the same company as the Mustang that we’ll be seeing this week. That made me think it could just be a normal car pass car, but the date is still odd.

 

[Skython]

I disagree with this arguement. If they were the same quality as their FM4 counterparts, then sure. But they're possibly remodeled from the ground up, so they make sense as dlc.

If they have a bunch of cars that haven't been completely remodeled since FM1, I wouldn't expect they're going to start now. Though updating old models is fine as long as the original model's proportions are accurate, take the game's Impreza 22B and '99 Viper ACR as examples of how not to re-use assets.

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I don't know what's gotten into Turn 10/PG lately/this time around. DLC has lost any credibility, the car sounds have gotten worse (my Vipers make fart noises at low revs, and when they aren't being flatulent, they sound nothing like a V10), and worst of all, my Alpine GTA still isn't in the game after a WHOLE NOT QUITE A MONTH!!! How dare they? The route creator is also classically Forza. You can do anything you want, provided it starts in the place that they choose for you, and for what reason? Is it some strange hardware limitation? A lack of resources? Of course not, they're sitting on piles on dosh. It's because they chose having their decorative gantry and barriers at the start location over giving their players freedom, thus almost defeating a purpose of a course creator... And there doesn't seem to be a menu where you can manage the tracks you have made, you only see your custom tracks when you're saving a new one. Though credit where it's due, they did implement it, and that's a start.

Call me crazy (applies tin foil hat), but sometimes it feels like each imperfection in the game is controlled to give incentive for players to get the next game. Though that theory goes out the window when they start making random aspects of the game worse for no apparent reason (sounds).

 

[VXR]

The Insignia uses a completely different engine to the Regal GS and 4WD. To suggest it's a hopped up Buick is a bit disingenuous.

 

[strela]

I did just see that he’s from the same company as the Mustang that we’ll be seeing this week. That made me think it could just be a normal car pass car, but the date is still odd.

I also think it's just a car pass car. I didn't checked it before, but I agree, the date is odd.

 

[Stang616]

You're right.

So, 3 Forzathon exclusive cars in all instead of 4, as I first said. What was @Stang616's problem then?

My problem is you stating your speculation as fact. Just because they only showed 3 new Forzathon cars, does not mean there will only be 3. It's usually best just to wait for official confirmation or until it shows up in game before jumping to conclusions.

If there is anything we have learned from the past few games it's that PG/T10 will often say one thing and do another.

We will find out in a few hours who is right and who has to eat crow.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

If they have a bunch of cars that haven't been completely remodeled since FM1, I wouldn't expect they're going to start now.

Except not all FM4 and FH1 models weren't simply ported like you said. Mercedes Sauber C9 and Mazda 787b for instance and those were in FM4.

 

[CSLACR]

Call me crazy (applies tin foil hat), but sometimes it feels like each imperfection in the game is controlled to give incentive for players to get the next game. Though that theory goes out the window when they start making random aspects of the game worse for no apparent reason (sounds).

Like they're just stringing people along with imperfections, because there's no other reason to play the newest game?

Crazy isn't the word I would use for that theory.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Like they're just stringing people along with imperfections, because there's no other reason to play the newest game?

Crazy isn't the word I would use for that theory.

I'd label it as 'asinine'

 

[Marqus]

Is bad to not like something??? Yes, I know he hasn't been the most optimistic of posters, but until a mod tells him off or if the ignore button suddenly combusts, I don't see a problem. I'm too busy playing the game.