Forza Motorsport 6 Mods: Explanation from T10

[SimTourist]

LIKE THE TOP GEAR CHALLENGES AND THE KINECT CAMERA FUNCTIONALITY, THIS IS FURTHER PROOF OF THE SLIDE OF THE FORZA SERIES INTO CASUAL MEDIOCRITY.

LIKE THE STUPID MOON MISSIONS, SILLY COFFEE BREAK MISSIONS, REDUCED ENDURANCE RACES AND THE PSEYE CAMERA FUNCTIONALITY, THIS IS FURTHER PROOF OF THE SLIDE OF THE GT SERIES INTO CASUAL MEDIOCRITY.

 

[RacerPaul]

Basically, I think @Tornado's post is an on-the-nose parody of what we'll see in the main GT section

Yeah, bless 'em

Like they'd know what a hardcore sim was

Sure ain't GT

 

[PzR Slim]

LIKE THE STUPID MOON MISSIONS, SILLY COFFEE BREAK MISSIONS, REDUCED ENDURANCE RACES AND THE PSEYE CAMERA FUNCTIONALITY, THIS IS FURTHER PROOF OF THE SLIDE OF THE GT SERIES INTO CASUAL MEDIOCRITY.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Both series could be sliding into casual mediocrity.

 

[VXR]

Except Forza is clearly in the ascendancy as an ongoing concern and not petering out with a whimper as Gran Turismo appears to be.

Casual mediocrity my foot.

 

[UKMikey]

Except Forza is clearly in the ascendancy as an ongoing concern and not petering out with a whimper as Gran Turismo appears to be.

Casual mediocrity my foot.

Yes, I'd've thought active development on a current gen console would appear to be a dead giveaway that Forza's "slide" (if any) is on a much, much shallower gradient. Still, I'm sure GT7 will be along to silence us naysayers... any year now... just you wait...

 

[Tornado]

Basically, I think @Tornado's post is an on-the-nose parody of what we'll see in the main GT section.

I was going more for "what specific people (whose identities could probably be guessed) will trot out when they venture into the Forza section to complain about 'double standards'".



Though the amount of people who seemed to consider it sincere is somewhat distressing...

 

[UKMikey]

Though the amount of people who seemed to consider it sincere is somewhat distressing...

Poe's Law

 

[RacerPaul]

Still, I'm sure GT7 will be along to silence us naysayers... any year now... just you wait...

Teehee

 

[ChromeBallz]

Seeing as how they've removed microtransactions, and the article states these are bought with in-game credits or won, I'd say somewhere between nil and zilch.

All i can find about this is this quote from GamesRadar:

"Everything is tuned for 'no tokens' at launch."

I wouldn't be so sure about there not being any microtransactions. All they confirmed is 'no tokens at launch', which might mean that either they're going to be introduced later on, or they have a different system in place.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Yes, I'd've thought active development on a current gen console would appear to be a dead giveaway that Forza's "slide" (if any) is on a much, much shallower gradient. Still, I'm sure GT7 will be along to silence us naysayers... any year now... just you wait...

I generally like this post but the real reason I tapped the "Like" button is this is probably the first time I've ever actually seen the double-contraction "I'd've" typed out. I've said it before but never typed it out. Further bonus points are in order for knowing better than to type "I'd of," which is a pet peeve of mine. I despise "would of," "could of," "should of," et cetera.

 

[SimTourist]

All i can find about this is this quote from GamesRadar:

"Everything is tuned for 'no tokens' at launch."

I wouldn't be so sure about there not being any microtransactions. All they confirmed is 'no tokens at launch', which might mean that either they're going to be introduced later on, or they have a different system in place.

The tokens weren't in Horizon 2 at launch, they introduced them later but nobody gave a **** because money is very easy to come by. Probably will be the same for forza 6.

 

[McLaren]

All i can find about this is this quote from GamesRadar:

"Everything is tuned for 'no tokens' at launch."

I wouldn't be so sure about there not being any microtransactions. All they confirmed is 'no tokens at launch', which might mean that either they're going to be introduced later on, or they have a different system in place.

How do you miss the first sentence then? Or the title of the article?

Forza Motorsport 6 will not feature any microtransactions, according to Turn 10.

http://www.gamesradar.com/forza-motorsport-6-ditches-microtransactions/

 

[willbsn13]

The tokens weren't in Horizon 2 at launch, they introduced them later but nobody gave a **** because money is very easy to come by. Probably will be the same for forza 6.

This. You can also get up to 25m in credits before launch through forza rewards. With all the new race cars and cars from Horizon, theres also going to be plenty of cars to spend your credits on as well as mods. I think FM6's economy is going to be a lot more balanced. Plenty of rewards, but plenty of stuff to spend it on!

 

[Igano]

I hope it's not too easy like Horizon 2 where money is just a number you don't have to pay attention to

 

[ChromeBallz]

How do you miss the first sentence then? Or the title of the article?

http://www.gamesradar.com/forza-motorsport-6-ditches-microtransactions/

That's the same article, where the writer interprets the quote i mentioned earlier. An interpretation from a writer at a gaming website should be taken as such, not as fact, imho.

All we know is, there will be "no tokens at launch". That does not automatically mean that there will never be microtransactions in FM6 - It might mean that tokens will return in a later patch, or that they will introduce an entirely new system for microtransactions at some point.

 

[Igano]

If the tokens are needed as much as in FH2 than let them in I say

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Not only are there up to 25 million credits up for grabs pre-release, but the wheel spin system returns, and (possibly) Affinity, which has always either earned you more credits, or provided discounts. Then there's Rivals...

I don't think it'll be hard, at all, to amass credits quickly in-game.

 

[JC_Dude]

Affinity is back. There was a mod that boosts it shown in one of the screenshots.

 

[McLaren]

That's the same article, where the writer interprets the quote i mentioned earlier. An interpretation from a writer at a gaming website should be taken as such, not as fact, imho.

All we know is, there will be "no tokens at launch". That does not automatically mean that there will never be microtransactions in FM6 - It might mean that tokens will return in a later patch, or that they will introduce an entirely new system for microtransactions at some point.

The quote you posted was after the writer asked T10 again if it was indeed true.

You seem to have this notion that just because they may not be in at launch, they could be reimplemented based on absolutely nothing.

 

[ChromeBallz]

The quote you posted was after the writer asked T10 again if it was indeed true.

You seem to have this notion that just because they may not be in at launch, they could be reimplemented based on absolutely nothing.

Maybe i'm misreading it, but can you post the exact quotes from T10 themselves that say that there will never be any microtransactions in FM6?

 

[McLaren]

Maybe i'm misreading it, but can you post the exact quotes from T10 themselves that say that there will never be any microtransactions in FM6?

Forza Motorsport 6 will not feature any microtransactions, according to Turn 10.

Asked again.

But, just to clarify, it was asked again later in the session whether microtransactions would be returning, and it was confirmed: "Everything is tuned for 'no tokens' at launch."

All you have to do is Google, "Forza 6 microtransactions". There are multiple outlets, not just Games Radar, who report that Forza 6 will not have micro-transactions based on what Giese told them.

There's no tokens because T10 is doing what Playground did with FH2, which also abandoned microtransactions.

Though these "tokens" were an omnipresent hallmark of Forza Motorsport 5, developer Playground Games prefers to grant players new cars based on their in-game performance, instead of their meatspace bank accounts. "The approach we've taken is that we've designed our game at Playground Games from the ground up to be fair, to be fun, to be rewarding," creative director Ralph Fulton told Digital Spy. "That's incredibly important to us. For that reason, we will launch in September without tokens."

Unlockable cars will still be a cornerstone of Forza Horizon 2, but in lieu of a token-based marketplace, the game institutes a nigh-random prize wheel at the end of each race. If you're incredibly lucky, you could win a sole event and drive away in a $2 million Bugatti Veyron.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/18/forza-horizon-2-to-debut-without-microtransaction-tokens/

That's all the proof there is when you look & see that T10 is following in PG's footsteps here.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Not only are there up to 25 million credits up for grabs pre-release, but the wheel spin system returns, and (possibly) Affinity, which has always either earned you more credits, or provided discounts. Then there's Rivals...

I don't think it'll be hard, at all, to amass credits quickly in-game.

Yes between the reward program, 25 million possibly at launch, and the wheel spins, money will be quite easy to obtain. Even easier if you turn off as many assists as possible.

 

[ChromeBallz]

Asked again.

All you have to do is Google, "Forza 6 microtransactions". There are multiple outlets, not just Games Radar, who report that Forza 6 will not have micro-transactions based on what Giese told them.

There's no tokens because T10 is doing what Playground did with FH2, which also abandoned microtransactions.


http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/18/forza-horizon-2-to-debut-without-microtransaction-tokens/

That's all the proof there is when you look & see that T10 is following in PG's footsteps here.

McLaren, i know you're being hopeful and want it to be true, but you have to seperate what the press says and what T10 says.

Lets analyze what T10 has ACTUALLY said, according to the quoted articles:

1: "Everything is tuned for 'no tokens' at launch."

This means that there will be no tokens at launch.

That is an oddly specific thing to say, isn't it? This is obviously to keep the way open for tokens after launch, whether it be after a month or a year.

GamesRader twisted this to 'NO TOKENS AND MICROTRANSACTIONS EVER' but that is obviously not what T10 said.


2: "That's incredibly important to us. For that reason, we will launch in September without tokens."

Again, exactly the same statement. No tokens at launch. If FM6 will never have microtransactions, why wouldn't they just say that instead of adding the 'at launch' bit?


Please mind that the other quotes and statements are not made by T10, but by GamesRadar and Engadget with no sources other than the quotes already mentioned from T10.


I know you want it to be true, but honestly, that's a bit naïve. I want it to be true as well, but knowing the games industry (and Microsoft) i can't help but be very pessimistic because of those quotes, because they intentionally added the 'at launch' bit instead of flat out stating that they will never add microtransactions to FM6.


Now, if you can point to quotes or statements directly from T10 or Microsoft that there will never be microtransactions in the game (not from third party articles which twist quotes to make for headlines) i will believe it, but for now, all we have is those quotes, which give no such guarantee.

Yes, microtransactions will not be in FM6 at launch. However, that doesn't mean that they will not be coming at a later date, that's something of which T10 nor Microsoft have said anything about.

Edit: My apologies, i missed that the second bit is about FH2 rather than FM6.

Still, FH2 does have tokens... Proving my point entirely. It may not have had them at launch, but it certainly does have them now.

Edit2: http://gamerant.com/forza-horizon-2-token-microtransactions/ - First hit on google, for giggles

 

[JC_Dude]

Yeah, FH2 has tokens, so what? You earn more than enough money to buy and upgrade cars. There is absolutely no reson to buy tokens, unless you want a 250GTO within an hour of starting the game.

 

[ChromeBallz]

Yeah, FH2 has tokens, so what? You earn more than enough money to buy and upgrade cars. There is absolutely no reson to buy tokens, unless you want a 250GTO within an hour of starting the game.

Yeah, in FH2 they are admittedly quite low key. Still, this is about FM6, and while i'm glad there's no tokens at launch, i wonder what T10/MS have planned for the future.

 

[mrPetros]

because a lot of ******** was said about Forza 5 -you know, console wars and all that- they rigged the economy.

I have 84 MILLION credits sitting there, with a garage full of duplicates of most expensive cars

please dont start with the "forza is selling you tokens to progress" nonsense here.
supposed to be a specialist forum after all.

 

[Hillcrest34]

because a lot of ******** was said about Forza 5 -you know, console wars and all that- they rigged the economy.

I have 84 MILLION credits sitting there, with a garage full of duplicates of most expensive cars

please dont start with the "forza is selling you tokens to progress" nonsense here.
supposed to be a specialist forum after all.

You realise the in game economy was adjusted after launch due to the extremely negative reaction T10 received due to the implementation of tokens

 

[mrPetros]

You realise the in game economy was adjusted after launch due to the extremely negative reaction T10 received due to the implementation of tokens

I realize you havent played the game at launch.
thats all I realize

 

[UkHardcore23]

I realize you havent played the game at launch.
thats all I realize

Sounds like you didnt play it at launch as what he says in 100% true. T10 rigged the economy so that the end of race payouts was extremely small which encouraged people to part with real money to buy cars which they were charging up to £80-over£100 if i remember right. Which is INSANE amount of money for virtual cars. 1 car was costing double the amount of the full game

Does not matter what the game is no one should be charging over 50p-£1 for a virtual car!

 

[UKMikey]

The over £100 was if you bought tokens in the smallest possible packs as I recall. What I don't understand is why anyone thinks they're going to go back to those days with Mattrick gone and Horizon not featuring any tokens at all.