Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[Beezer215]

Warning: Picture heavy post (pics in spoilers)

I've had a little play around with the scrape and dent settings in the GlobalCarAttributes.xml file, and this is what I was able to find. The original settings are:

<Denting>
<DentEntry0 Speed="0.000000" Radius0="0.150000" Radius1="0.150000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
<DentEntry1 Speed="15.000000" Radius0="0.300000" Radius1="0.350000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
<DentEntry2 Speed="45.000000" Radius0="0.400000" Radius1="0.700000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
<DentEntry3 Speed="80.000000" Radius0="0.500000" Radius1="2.100000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
</Denting>
<Scraping>
<ScrapeEntry0 Speed="0.000000" Radius0="0.150000" Radius1="0.150000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry1 Speed="15.000000" Radius0="0.320000" Radius1="0.320000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry2 Speed="45.000000" Radius0="0.320000" Radius1="0.320000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry3 Speed="80.000000" Radius0="0.320000" Radius1="0.320000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
</Scraping>

Spoiler: Original settings pics

5mph/8kmh
View attachment 1425975

20mph/32kmh
View attachment 1425976

54mph/87kmh
View attachment 1425977

I don't know what these numbers referred to whether km/h or mph, so I took the assumption that they would be the former as it's easier to be more accurate. The first change I made was to the scraping, with the following settings:

<ScrapeEntry0 Speed="0.000000" Radius0="0.050000" Radius1="0.050000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry1 Speed="15.000000" Radius0="0.150000" Radius1="0.150000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry2 Speed="45.000000" Radius0="0.220000" Radius1="0.220000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
<ScrapeEntry3 Speed="80.000000" Radius0="0.320000" Radius1="0.320000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>

Which produced the following results. As you can see, it didn't work - the denting remained intact however the scratching didn't occur at any speed, leading us to believe that there must be a valid minimum radius value of 0.15.

Spoiler: 1st edit pics

5mph/8kmh
View attachment 1425978

20mph/32kmh
View attachment 1425979

52mph/84kmh
View attachment 1425980

82mph/124kmh
View attachment 1425981

Lastly, because I knew I had to wind the scratches back to where they were, I did a bit of tweaking with the denting as well as the scratching

<Denting>
      <DentEntry0 Speed="0.000000" Radius0="0.100000" Radius1="0.100000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
      <DentEntry1 Speed="15.000000" Radius0="0.200000" Radius1="0.300000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
      <DentEntry2 Speed="45.000000" Radius0="0.300000" Radius1="0.600000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
      <DentEntry3 Speed="80.000000" Radius0="0.500000" Radius1="2.100000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="0.000000"/>
    </Denting>
    <Scraping>
      <ScrapeEntry0 Speed="0.000000" Radius0="0.150000" Radius1="0.150000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
      <ScrapeEntry1 Speed="15.000000" Radius0="0.150000" Radius1="0.150000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
      <ScrapeEntry2 Speed="45.000000" Radius0="0.220000" Radius1="0.220000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
      <ScrapeEntry3 Speed="80.000000" Radius0="0.320000" Radius1="0.320000" Damage0="1.000000" Damage1="1.000000" Damage2="1.000000"/>
    </Scraping>

This had the side effect of removing all dents, however it did give the opportunity to assess the scratches.

Spoiler

10mph/16kmh
View attachment 1425997

20mph/32kmh
View attachment 1425996

54mph/87kmh
View attachment 1425999

You can see with these pictures, specifically towards the top edge and top of the arch of the front wing, there's a marked difference in the impact between 20mph and 50mph, which there should be. However, as mentioned before, the denting didn't happen so we definitely know that there is a minimum of 0.15000 radius for both scrapes and dents.

I'll conduct further tests with the maximum value as well to see if I can reduce the upper range so overall the scrapes are reduced as less excessive.

That's why I just turned the visual damage off. You can play with the speed settings and get the first tier of scratches harder to trigger but overall, the texture is the texture and it seems to be in 3 tiers. I personally would be happy if it just stuck to the first tier of scrapes and dents. Lightly tapping the rear of a car and seeing scrapes appear out of no where on top of the trunk where your car can't even reach is a bit much.