Forza

You want to really answer the question? racing or driving game? Then just ask yourself where you spend more time. In modes like free run and time trial or in the league and arcade races. That'll answer the question for you.

The GT series has always been about driving. Not racing. I personally can't wait to just lap around the ring, fuji, and grand canyon till I'm blue in the face.:)
 
code_kev
I'm in the club that says calling it a "driving" game over a racing game, is just an excuse for a weak racing experience.

....goodness (there ya go swift :P)

Do you people just not understand? Code I am really starting to get along with you, but don't join the ranks of Gek....

It's not an "excuse". How can you create an excuse for something that it was ment to be in the first place?

GT has always been about driving cars. About being able to present that sensation to the player. KY prides the game on this.

Forza CLEARLY is MORE focused on motorsport. And that's awesome, because I like that.

But the fact still remains, that GT is a game that's initial intent is to be a driving game. Regardless of AI, that has nothing to do with the "arguement". It's all in the statements of the development team, repeatedly, they have said, and it's easy to see, that this game is about driving cars, and recreating the experience.

Forza, is about simulation, and motorsport.

Code, don't flatter the Forza team btw, because it is NOT that far ahead of GT in terms of AI....even with Drivatar....
 
Swift
You want to really answer the question? racing or driving game? Then just ask yourself where you spend more time. In modes like free run and time trial or in the league and arcade races. That'll answer the question for you.

The GT series has always been about driving. Not racing. I personally can't wait to just lap around the ring, fuji, and grand canyon till I'm blue in the face.:)
Wait til you see how awesome PD has redone Grand Canyon and all the Old tracks in GT4, Totally awesome!👍
 
What do you do in Forza that you dont do in GT that makes Forza more competition based? GT has a winning percentage rank....what does that have to do with driving? Uh oh, that must mean GT could be competition based.

If the developers said Forza was developed so the player could experience driving all the cars and then we just added racing for filler, then what would you say?
 
Gek54
What do you do in Forza that you dont do in GT that makes Forza more competition based? GT has a winning percentage rank....what does that have to do with driving? Uh oh, that must mean GT could be competition based.

If the developers said Forza was developed so the player could experience driving all the cars and then we just added racing for filler, then what would you say?

ROFL! :lol: Man Gek, you just can't admit a thing huh?
 
Code, don't flatter the Forza team btw, because it is NOT that far ahead of GT in terms of AI....even with Drivatar....

I didn't.

Well that's just my opinion. The whole structure of the game does seem to based upon winning races, and upgrading your car with the cash won. I'm sure that trying out new cars etc is part of the game too, half the fun is getting a new car and seeing how it drives etc, but this can be said of most racing games.
 
Forza sucks. Just my $0.02, but look at this screen from a game I bought in 2001 and am running on my GeForce4 MX, which actually looks better than Forza in my honest opinion.

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(cue a bunch of whinging from Kev ;))

I don't care what anyone says, graphics are important.
 
Stinky Chicken
Forza sucks. Just my $0.02, but look at this screen from a game I bought in 2001 and am running on my GeForce4 MX, which actually looks better than Forza in my honest opinion.

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(cue a bunch of whinging from Kev ;))

I don't care what anyone says, graphics are important.

small screen. can't see anything.

what game is it?
 
Stinky, i think we pretty much proved with out a shadow of a doubt in the last thread, that your whole argument was crap.

p.s your 2001 game looking better is pure BS. Such a game does not actually exist. O owned many a racing game back in 2001, and while some were pretty...none looked as nice as forza. Care to mention what game your showing then? :P

Forza sucks.

You havn't even played it you tool.
 
code_kev
Stinky, i think we pretty much proved with out a shadow of a doubt in the last thread, that your whole argument was crap.

p.s your 2001 game looking better is pure BS. Such a game does not actually exist. O owned many a racing game back in 2001, and while some were pretty...none looked as nice as forza. Care to mention what game your showing then? :P



You havn't even played it you tool.

yeah, I have a hard time believing that a game that old other than GT3 looks comparable.

and comparing PC games to console games graphically is kind of pointless.

like OMFG halo 2 sucks because far cry and doom 3 look better!!!!!!!!!!1
 
Meh, Is this whole forum full of blokes just trying to see who can pi$$ farther up a rope!

I came over her becasue tha-con was offering some decent information on Forza, well it is just NOT worth it. This has got to be one of the most annoying threads around. (That is saying a lot, putting you all right up there with the teamxbox lot of whiners.) 👎

Anyway, if you ever get around to posting more info on Forza, tha_con please share it at forzacentral as I will not be visiting this thread again.

b-bye!
 
T_R_E
Meh, Is this whole forum full of blokes just trying to see who can pi$$ farther up a rope!

I came over her becasue tha-con was offering some decent information on Forza, well it is just NOT worth it. This has got to be one of the most annoying threads around. (That is saying a lot, putting you all right up there with the teamxbox lot of whiners.) 👎

Anyway, if you ever get around to posting more info on Forza, tha_con please share it at forzacentral as I will not be visiting this thread again.

b-bye!

It always amazes me how when people are annoyed or upset at what's happening with a thread. The post a reply about it and then say they're not coming back. Why not just leave and say nothing about it? What's the point in saying "You guys are acting dumb so I'm leaving. HA!" Just spilt. You don't like the conversation, that's cool. But don't act like you're a higher level person cause you're "leaving" Oh wait, you're not here to hear this anyway.... :dopey:
 
Swift
You want to really answer the question? racing or driving game? Then just ask yourself where you spend more time. In modes like free run and time trial or in the league and arcade races. That'll answer the question for you.

The GT series has always been about driving. Not racing. I personally can't wait to just lap around the ring, fuji, and grand canyon till I'm blue in the face.:)
Personally I spend most of my time in the league races and don't do much in the way of time trials, so to me GT is a racing game. I know the fact is that GT is focused more on the driving, but I'd rather it be the other way round.

Anyway, can we for the love of god stop talking about GT4 in here. The thread is becoming more and more irrelevent.

Hey Tha_con, why don't you request a thread for your preview of Forza, just copy all the info so far into it and then edit your first post as and when you add new info. I think that would be better, it's worth a go anyway.
 
Swift
ROFL! :lol: Man Gek, you just can't admit a thing huh?

Admit what?, that I wont try to label something different than what it really is just becuase the creator wants me to so? Ok.

Its just like if someone here wanted to call XBOX and PS2 multimedia machines that are not focused on gaming just becuase Nintendo says they are focused on gaming to excuse the fact they their hardware cant play DVD movies.

'Becuase it has weaker graphics the focus of the Playstation 2 is playing DVD movies and they just added the ability play games so it should not be considered a gaming console....Sony said, so it must be true. This is also why we have things like the new DVD remote and drivers.'

See how lame that sounds?....you all probably dont. I give up.
 
live4speed
Personally I spend most of my time in the league races and don't do much in the way of time trials, so to me GT is a racing game. I know the fact is that GT is focused more on the driving, but I'd rather it be the other way round.

Anyway, can we for the love of god stop talking about GT4 in here. The thread is becoming more and more irrelevent.

Hey Tha_con, why don't you request a thread for your preview of Forza, just copy all the info so far into it and then edit your first post as and when you add new info. I think that would be better, it's worth a go anyway.

Well, the problem is, I had to send back my Debug Xbox for inventory purposes, so until I get it back, it's on hold. I'm working with Microsoft to possibly get an updated build for exclusives, but they are being picky.
 
tha_con
Well, the problem is, I had to send back my Debug Xbox for inventory purposes, so until I get it back, it's on hold. I'm working with Microsoft to possibly get an updated build for exclusives, but they are being picky.

drop some info whenever you get a chance. pretty please?
 
kinigitt
drop some info whenever you get a chance. pretty please?

I definately will, it just sucks that they pick NOW to inventory everything...bleh. I hate it. Esp. since I had to send in my Debug PS2...blah! Since then I've been using stinky first gen PS2 from JPN...which tends to freeze up after long races. So far I've lost out on FOUR cars, TWO have been endurance races (24H...)

It sucks. It even froze while I was playing Naruto *cries* life stinkerz....
 
Gek54
Admit what?, that I wont try to label something different than what it really is just becuase the creator wants me to so? Ok.

Its just like if someone here wanted to call XBOX and PS2 multimedia machines that are not focused on gaming just becuase Nintendo says they are focused on gaming to excuse the fact they their hardware cant play DVD movies.

'Becuase it has weaker graphics the focus of the Playstation 2 is playing DVD movies and they just added the ability play games so it should not be considered a gaming console....Sony said, so it must be true. This is also why we have things like the new DVD remote and drivers.'

See how lame that sounds?....you all probably dont. I give up.
I hate to get involved with this, But this is a bunch of crap, Where does sony say there gameing system is not for playing games???

PS: Sony makes several DVD players for playing DVD's but only one for playing games! Playstation 2.....
 
tha_con
I definately will, it just sucks that they pick NOW to inventory everything...bleh. I hate it. Esp. since I had to send in my Debug PS2...blah! Since then I've been using stinky first gen PS2 from JPN...which tends to freeze up after long races. So far I've lost out on FOUR cars, TWO have been endurance races (24H...)

It sucks. It even froze while I was playing Naruto *cries* life stinkerz....

I guess I missed a reveiw but Forza will have 24Hour races too? Sweet.
 
No he's saying he's also had to send back his debug PS2, so he's using his 1st gen Japanese one at the mo which freezes up after long races, and then he's talking about GT4 on his 1st gen PJap PS2.
 
HYBRIDLVR
I hate to get involved with this, But this is a bunch of crap, Where does sony say there gameing system is not for playing games???

PS: Sony makes several DVD players for playing DVD's but only one for playing games! Playstation 2.....

I agree, and where does KY say GT games are not really for racing?
 
Guy's please can we get back on to Forza, if you want to discuss this any more make another thread but this ones getting ruined.
 
Please shut it and get back on topic.
BTW, where does KY say himself?
How about listening to him speak at some the presentations he was at.
 

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