Four Hours: The Nürburgring 4Hr Companion & Competition

[bonobo4]

from Famine's post some pages back about the lineups I'm gonna go with the 5th one that includes the CTR2 and CT230R and the G37, so I can have a fair race. My main weakness will be the straights, just liek the race with the Giulia in your fan fic...

Good luck, should be close and interesting.

 

[Michelin]

Good luck, should be close and interesting.

That is my main goal, even if I lose, I want an interesting race hahaha but really, if I win with the Civic I would laugh at the AI

 

[Michelin]

yeahhh no Civic Type R, the thing is very good in the turns indeed but I was killed in the 2km straight (from 2nd less than a second behind the leader to dead last 20 seconds behind)...

 

[Michelin]

About the lineups... Famine sayed that the 2nd lineup would have the S2000 GT1 Turbo, 3rd the R8 LMS and the 4th both... strange was that the S2K Turbor appeared in the 2nd and 3rd lineups and the one with the G37, CT230R and the RUF (5th lineup was my fourth..)... I do believe now that there isn't a rule about the lineups (taking out the 1st and 2nd one)... they're are randoms as they can be...

 

[bonobo4]

For my next run, after doing some testing I think I'll try the RUF BTR '86, with the following specifications (all tuning is reversible):

538BHP
1180kg
455.93BHP/tonne
557PP
RS Tyres

The tuning is a lot. A rear wing with max rear downforce keeps the car more in control, shame about the front. I also fitted everything to the car to increase power (except Engine Tuning Stages 1-3), including a High RPM Range Turbo Kit. FC Transmission with max speed of 199 (more like 180mph), and a FC LSD.

I did a lap just now in 8:56.646. Unless the car uses fuel and tyres like there's no tomorrow it should be capable of beating all except the S2000 GT1 Turbo and the R8 LMS. Obviously also being an old 911 it will try and kill me.

 

[Michel4AGE]

LOL I'm sure the BTR will give you plenty sideways fun. But if your fastest laptime is 8:56 you won't make a chance on victory, afaik..

 

[bonobo4]

I forgot the Sports ECU. After adding that and giving it another go I did an 8:48. Depending on economy it should do well.

FYI, the fastest lap for my Viper was 8:44, and that pitted every 3 Laps for 52L and tyres (not tested the BTR, but I imagine it'll need to pit every 3 or 4 Laps) by around a minute over the S2000 GT1. I admit it won't beat the R8 or the Turbo, so if I get them I'll refresh the AI until they're not there.

 

[bonobo4]

I was trying a Giulia TZ2 completely stock but it wasn't fast enough. With max downforce, full power and Racing Softs it could beat the CTR2 and because it's so light the tyres would last long enough to keep yourself pitting at sensible times.

Doing stock settings laps with RS Tyres at around 9:52. So unless that Turbocharger and downforce can give an extra 30-40 seconds it'll be too slow to use. However, I only used 13L to do 2 Laps, 6.5L/lap is the best economy I've seen in a car. Oh and the car is so easy to drive and I love the gear changes. I could drive it for hours (hint hint). 👍

If I can pit every 6 Laps and only put in 40L per stint (taking around 1 minute per stop) that's 4 stops for 3:30-4:00 in the pits, as opposed to say 6 stops at 40 seconds each being 4 minutes in the pits. It'll be close, but like I've said before I absolutely love the car.

I'll try again with the Turbo and max downforce added, though it drives so well I'm not sure it really needs the downforce.

UPDATE: With max downforce and a High RPM Range Turbo fitted, the car has 249BHP but because it only weighs 620kg it is now still easy to drive but also scary if you hit the curb. However, even after a terrible lap I still did it 9:25, which is even better because I need to change the transmission which can give a few more seconds. Therefore it may be possible to get 9:10 out of this car.

In conclusion, if you want an authentic racer that can win this race, use this. I love the car, but my personal preference is without the turbo as it feels more fun and easier to drive.

 

[mcfizzle]

I'm 2 hours and 16 minutes and 15 laps into a race with an LFA. Everything is stock except R1's. It comes to 565 HP, 1480 kg, and 545 pp. Fastest lap so far is 8'48.292 and I'm leading by 36 seconds over the S2000 GT1 '04. Lead should be greater but it is twitchy at high speeds if I clip the grass, therefore I have a few spins. I have pitted every 5 laps for tires and I think 65 liters of fuel but I will check on that. Very enjoyable and comfortable ride so far. I will update when I finish in the morning.

 

[ItsHim]

I'm 2 hours and 16 minutes and 15 laps into a race with an LFA. Everything is stock except R1's. It comes to 565 HP, 1480 kg, and 545 pp. Fastest lap so far is 8'48.292 and I'm leading by 36 seconds over the S2000 GT1 Turbo. Lead should be greater but it is twitchy at high speeds if I clip the grass, therefore I have a few spins. I have pitted every 5 laps for tires and I think 65 liters of fuel but I will check on that. Very enjoyable and comfortable ride so far. I will update when I finish in the morning.

Very curious how this goes. I did a couple of test laps with the LFA and found it to be very twitchy on sports tyres. Felt it needed a rear wing but unfortunately not possible. Keep us updated!

 

[Famine]

About the lineups... Famine sayed that the 2nd lineup would have the S2000 GT1 Turbo, 3rd the R8 LMS and the 4th both... strange was that the S2K Turbor appeared in the 2nd and 3rd lineups and the one with the G37, CT230R and the RUF (5th lineup was my fourth..)... I do believe now that there isn't a rule about the lineups (taking out the 1st and 2nd one)... they're are randoms as they can be...

No they aren't.

There are multiple different lineups but they are preset. If you boot the console up and go straight into the race you'll encounter the lineups exactly as they have been logged in this thread. If you do something else before going into the race - even including going to your garage and fiddling with settings - you won't, but even those lineups are preset too.

I have, for instance, discovered a lineup which has no Amuse S2000 Turbo, no R8 LMS, no HPA TT, no HKS CT230R, no Amuse S2000 and no Ruf CTR2. If I do the same thing then skip the same number of lineups (which are all identical to previous attempts) I get this same lineup.

Even the colours of the cars are the same in every lineup.

 

[bonobo4]

I reckon my next attempt will be with the Alfa. It'll certainly be tough as even with max downforce, RS Tyres and 249BHP with a High RPM range Turbo my best lap is still around 9:15. If it doesn't work I'll just use the RUF BTR, which I reckon has a high chance of winning but I want to see how the Alfa will fare.

 

[mcfizzle]

I finished first in my LFA with racing hards as my only performance or part upgrades. I finished 27 laps in a time of 4 hours 6 minutes and 16 seconds. Second was the Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 followed by the HPA FT565 and then the HKS CT230R, all with 26 laps. My best lap was 8:45.945 on lap 18. I pitted every 5 laps, mainly for rear tires and took on 63-65 liters of fuel. At the start of lap 16 I pitted with a 36 second lead while the S2000 waited one more lap. A questionable decision, as I came out behind 17 seconds but finished the lap with a 49 second lead.

The car was a very easy drive. It felt very neutral and did everything I wanted it to do. It felt stable under braking and the only time I had issues was when I caught the edge of the grass, causing it to spin. I did think the final result would be closer than it was, but I also drove much better the second half, helping to increase the lead to a comfortable margin.

Below are race notes I took each lap:

Lfa 565 HP 1480 kg 545 pp *start with RH stock car
*
Lap 1. 2.516 second lead 9'04.659
Lap 2. 4.698 lead 8'56.823
L3: 8'58.165
L4:9:11.619
L5:9:13.460 pit 1
L6:9:55.724
L7:8:48.292 3.5 sec lead s2000
L8:8:49.414
L9:8:59.949
L10:9.01.894 pit2 lead 10 sec going in,*
L11:9:48.702 32 sec lead s2000
L12:8:51.360
L13:8:53.491
L14:8:51.916
L15:9:05.149 pit 3 36 second lead
L16:9:51.055 left pit 17 sec 2nd place, finish 40 sec lead, s2000 no pit?
L17:8:49.699 over 1:50 lead, s2000 pit
L18:8:45.975
L19:8:50.569
L20:9:12.537 pit 4 1 hour left 2min 15 sec lead entering pits 63 liters
L21:9:45.874 1 min 25 sec lead
L22:8:47.944 2min 25 sec lead
L23:8:52.776
L24:9:13.205 pit 5, short pit, 52 liters
L25:9:36.739 2 min 30 sec lead on N. sexton, bruneau, konig
L:26:9:00.409 2:41 left on clock bruneau, sexton, tiainen
L27:8:57.401 4 hours 6 mins and 16 seconds
1st LFA 27 laps
2nd amuse s2000 gt1 '04 26 laps
3rd HPA motorsports 26 laps
4th HKS CT230R

 

[Michelin]

No they aren't.

There are multiple different lineups but they are preset. If you boot the console up and go straight into the race you'll encounter the lineups exactly as they have been logged in this thread. If you do something else before going into the race - even including going to your garage and fiddling with settings - you won't, but even those lineups are preset too.

I have, for instance, discovered a lineup which has no Amuse S2000 Turbo, no R8 LMS, no HPA TT, no HKS CT230R, no Amuse S2000 and no Ruf CTR2. If I do the same thing then skip the same number of lineups (which are all identical to previous attempts) I get this same lineup.

Even the colours of the cars are the same in every lineup.

I never though that changing cars could change entirely the lineup hahaha

 

[C-ZETA]

I'm thinking of logging all the different lineups you can get in this race up to a certain point, after a console reset, entering the Nurburgring 4h and nothing else. This way you can get an idea of what you can come up against in the races and also get a race with an ideal lineup. Watch this space...or the next one I make anyway.

 

[bonobo4]

I've just had a sudden moment of insanity. How about using the CTR "Yellow Bird" for 4 Hours? I've never actually tried it but I hear it's hard to drive. For 4 Hours my muscles may collapse, but I'm willing to try it as soon as I find one in the UCD and have enough after trying with the Alfa and the BTR. Hoping to try with the Alfa sometime this week.

 

[C-ZETA]

How about using the CTR "Yellow Bird" for 4 Hours?

I picked one up today. It isn't as wild as I thought it would be, apart from it sliding in every corner, but there is a reason why the AI pits with it every 3 laps.

 

[bonobo4]

How is it for fuel? If it is efficient I may just use one if I can "tame" it, for a laugh at least.

 

[Michelin]

LOL I tryed a Peugeot 206 Rally Car, and the car is great ! Tires can be saved up to 5 laps (Racing Soft) and it just 10L per lap! Lap around 8.50.xxx range, but still the S2K Turbo open like 20-25 secs per lap...

 

[bonobo4]

Speaking of Rally Cars, what about the Stratos Rally Car? I tried a normal Stratos but it was lapping way too slowly.

 

[Michelin]

Speaking of Rally Cars, what about the Stratos Rally Car? I tried a normal Stratos but it was lapping way too slowly.

never though about it... why nobody ever uses those rally cars apart from dirt/snow races? they are so fun in the tarmac!

 

[Michel4AGE]

I still haven't started a race with the 460PP Evora, but I do know I need to drive laptimes in the 8:4x range in order to beat the R8 LMS and the S2k GT1 Turbo. At 460PP the Evora consumes about 51 liter fuel for 6 laps. My fastest laptime so far is 8:39. Quite a fast car !

Will try the Yellowbird for 5/6 laps.. stock + RS tyres ?

 

[C-ZETA]

Right then. Here are the first 23 lineups you will get, after a console reset, doing nothing else but the Nurburgring 4h itself. Fastest cars, according to average laptime, are put in bold. Colours are also included for no real reason, as they never change anyway (per lineup). Eventually I might also put in the projected finishing order depending on average laptime, but no one knows what the YellowBird's is for starters and it would be more time consuming right now. More lineups will eventually be coming as well.

Lineup 1
1. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
2. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
3. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
4. Nismo 270R '94 - Black Pearl Metallic
5. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
6. HKS CT230R '08
7. (player)
8. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune '99 - Active Red
9. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
10. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)
11. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
12. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)

Lineup 2
1. RUF CTR2 '96
2. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
3. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - Black Pearl
4. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - New Formula Red
5. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
6. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
7. (player)
8. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
9. Nismo 400R '96 - Super Clear Red II
10. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
11. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Dark Blue (P)
12. Opera Performance 350Z '04

Lineup 3
1. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
2. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
3. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - Bay Side Blue (M)
4. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87
5. Opera Performance 350Z '04
6. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
7. (player)
8. High End Performance G37
9. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
10. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - New Formula Red
11. RUF CTR2 '96
12. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)

Lineup 4
1. High End Performance G37
2. AEM S2000
3. RUF CTR2 '96
4. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White
5. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
6. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Sparkling Silver Metallic
7. (player)
8. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
9. Nismo 400R '96 - Black
10. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
11. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Blade Silver (M)
12. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04

Lineup 5
1. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
2. High End Performance G37
3. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
4. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
5. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
6. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Diamond Black (P)
7. (player)
8. Opera Performance 350Z '04
9. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Sparkling Silver Metallic
10. AEM S2000
11. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
12. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)

Lineup 6
1. Art Morrison Corvette'60
2. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Jetblau Metallic
3. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
4. RUF CTR2 '96
5. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
6. HKS CT230R '08
7. (player)
8. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Diamond Black (3P)
9. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
10. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87
11. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
12. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)

Lineup 7
1. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
2. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
3. Opera Performance 350Z '04
4. Nismo 400R '96 - Sonic Silver Metallic
5. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
6. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Phantomschwarz Perleffekt
7. (player)
8. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
9. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
10. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-Tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
11. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Blade Silver (M)
12. Art Morrison Corvette'60

Lineup 8
1. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
2. RUF CTR2 '96
3. HKS CT230R '08
4. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
5. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87
6. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Sebring Silver Metallic
7. (player)
8. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
9. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
10. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
11. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
12. Art Morrison Corvette'60

Lineup 9
1. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
2. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
3. Opera Performance 350Z '04
4. HKS CT230R '08
5. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
6. RUF CTR2 '96
7. (player)
8. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
9. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
10. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Dark Blue (P)
11. AEM S2000
12. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)

Lineup 10
1. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Sebring Silver Metallic
2. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
3. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
4. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Monte Carlo Blue Pearl
5. Art Morrison Corvette'60
6. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
7. (player)
8. 2007 HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
9. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
10. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
11. AEM S2000
12. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Black Pearl Metallic

Lineup 11
1. Nismo 400R '96 - Lightning Yellow
2. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
3. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Lime Green Metallic
4. AEM S2000
5. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune '99 - Active Red
6. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
7. (player)
8. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R
9. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
10. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
11. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
12. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04

Lineup 12
1. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
2. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
3. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
4. AEM S2000
5. High End Performance G37
6. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - New Formula Red
7. (player)
8. Art Morrison Corvette'60
9. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
10. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
11. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
12. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White

Lineup 13
1. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - New Formula Red
2. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base - White
3. HKS CT230R '08
4. High End Performance G37
5. Opera Performance 350Z '04
6. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
7. (player)
8. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
9. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
10. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Blade Silver (M)
11. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
12. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red

Lineup 14
1. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
2. Art Morrison Corvette'60
3. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Gun Gray Metallic
4. HKS CT230R '08
5. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
6. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
7. (player)
8. AEM S2000
9. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Ibisweiss
10. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
11. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Dark Blue (P)
12. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic

Lineup 15
1. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Eissilber Metallic
2. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
3. RUF CTR2 '96
4. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Blade Silver (M)
5. Nismo 400R '96 - Sparkling Silver Metallic
6. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
7. (player)
8. AEM S2000
9. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
10. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)
11. High End Performance G37
12. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04

Lineup 16
1. Mine's Lancer Evolution VI '00 - Scotia White
2. Nissan Option Stream Z '04
3. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
4. High End Performance G37
5. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
6. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Lavagrau Perleffekt
7. (player)
8. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
9. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Gun Gray Metallic
10. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
11. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
12. Nismo 400R '96 - Active Red

Lineup 17
1. RUF CTR2 '96
2. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
3. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
4. AEM S2000
5. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Gun Gray Metallic
6. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Burning Red
7. (player)
8. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
9. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Sebring Silver Metallic
10. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
11. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
12. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87

Lineup 18
1. HKS CT230R '08
2. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
3. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Premium White Pearl
4. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Grand Prix White
5. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
6. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87
7. (player)
8. High End Performance G37
9. Nismo 400R '96 - Black
10. AEM S2000
11. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
12. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT

Lineup 19
1. Art Morrison Corvette'60
2. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Monza Red Pearl
3. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
4. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
5. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Burning Red
6. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)
7. (player)
8. High End Performance G37
9. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Black Pearl Metallic
10. AEM S2000
11. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Phantomschwarz Perleffekt
12. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White

Lineup 20
1. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
2. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera - White Pearl (3P)
3. RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87
4. Art Morrison Corvette'60
5. High End Performance G37
6. Nissan Option Stream Z '04
7. (player)
8. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - New Formula Red
9. AEM S2000
10. Nismo 400R '96 - Lightning Yellow
11. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White Pearl (3P)
12. Amuse/Opera Performance Gran Turismo 350Z RS - Burning Red

Lineup 21
1. Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - Diamond Silver Metallic
2. Nissan Option Stream Z '04
3. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Eissilber Metallic
4. Nismo 400R '96 - Lightning Yellow
5. Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) '00 - Gun Gray Metallic
6. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
7. (player)
8. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
9. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Berlina Black
10. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
11. HPA Motorsports Stage II R32
12. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7

Lineup 22
1. Amuse Carbon R (R34) '04
2. Nissan Option Stream Z '04
3. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera '08 - White Pearl (3P)
4. RUF CTR2 '96
5. Opera Performance 350Z '04
6. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
7. (player)
8. Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01
9. High End Performance G37
10. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
11. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo - Sebring Silver Metallic
12. Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 - Phantomschwarz Perleffekt

Lineup 23
1. Nissan Option Stream Z '04
2. Opera Performance 350Z '04
3. Nismo Skyline GT-R R-tune (R34) '99 - Active Red
4. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V.spec N1 base '00 - White
5. Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - Sebring Silver Metallic
6. HPA Motorsports FT565 twin turbo Audi TT
7. (player)
8. Art Morrison Corvette'60
9. Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
10. Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 base '06 - White
11. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
12. AEM S2000

More to follow (eventually).

 

[ItsHim]

Right then. Here are the first 10 lineups you will get, after a console reset, doing nothing else but the Nurburgring 4h itself. Fastest cars, according to average laptime, are put in bold. Colours are also included for no real reason, as they never change anyway. Eventually I might also put in the projected finishing order depending on average laptime, but no one knows what the YellowBird's is for starters and it would be more time consuming right now. More lineups will eventually be coming as well.

Thanks very much, I was setting out to do the same, to find the "perfect" line up with as much competitive cars as possible on one grid.

So far I found the very first grid rather good, only the RUF CTR missing but no rabbit and 6 cars within the same bracket of ~ 9:17 to 9:21:

HKS CT230R '08 - 09:17,69 - 09:18,30
HPA FT565 Twin Turbo Audi TT - 09:18,35 - 09:18,46
Amuse S2000 GT1 '04 - 09:18,65 - 09:21,23
Nismo Fairlady Z Z-tune (Z33) '03 - 09:19,04 - 09:21,92
Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 Base '00 - 09:19,39 - 09:20,77
Mine's BNR34 Skyline GT-R N1 Base '06 - 09:21,54

with some variation in observed average laptimes to keep things a bit interesting.

 

[bonobo4]

Do the average laptimes include pitting or are they flying laps?

 

[ItsHim]

Do the average laptimes include pitting or are they flying laps?

They are based on the Full race including pit stops.

 

[bonobo4]

Thanks for that info. Looks like my Alfa may have trouble keeping up, as currently my flying laps are around 9:15-9:20, I'll check again later to see if I can get any more out of it. Otherwise I'll just use the BTR.

 

[ItsHim]

Thanks for that info. Looks like my Alfa may have trouble keeping up, as currently my flying laps are around 9:15-9:20, I'll check again later to see if I can get any more out of it. Otherwise I'll just use the BTR.

On a 5 lap stint I usually do 6 test laps to get a good average and try to account for the lesser fuel taken on the final stop. Quite time consuming but I can't do the full race ATM anyway.

With the DS3 I usually use tcs 2 now as I just can't preserve my tyres well enough and it really helps. Time to get that bloody racing rig finished so my G25 sees some action again.

 

[bonobo4]

Okay after testing it in race conditions, the Alfa simply can't win this race. It can keep up with Skylines but not the TT, HKS or other fast, top-end cars. Average laptimes are around 9:20-9:25 excluding pitstops. Such a shame. Though as I kept saying to myself, don't hate the Alfa, hate the competition for beating it! It's great in the corners, but the straight-line acceleration is lacking, even with the added power from the Turbo. If anyone wins with the Alfa please send me your setup, particularly gear ratios, as that's the main thing I'd be looking for.

Next up will be the RUF BTR-R '86.

 

[C-ZETA]

Okay after testing it in race conditions, the Alfa simply can't win this race. It can keep up with Skylines but not the TT, HKS or other fast, top-end cars.

Do you think it could beat the Amuse S2000 GT1 '04? If so, there is a lineup where that's the fastest car.

Technically speaking you should just be able to beat it in some cases according to average laptimes.