FRL~ToCA11~GTP #1~ CHAMPIONS: Ninners (RPM-ECM), AMD87 (Alfa) Team SYM (Nissan)! FINAL TABLES UP!Open
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- Scaniabebe
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How about you learn to make an actual pass and not just sticking your nose in and push people off? With a car that's vastly superior in straight line speed, it shouldn't be that hard to do it. And you think after you rammed me I'm going to give you "racing room" so you can use the advantage you gained by pushing me off? Well, think again. Not going to happen.
Funny how you're the only one that this problem occurs with constantly.
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The Ford was slightly brighter however and looks better.
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- johnboy-1975-
Who was the white Civic I was watching?
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Actually you are...
As usual last rounds of a ToCA season you start going mental and thinking everyone either get out of your way or you make them do...
Last night, in Q2, you started out with either an idiotic lack of awareness or utter disregard for other drivers around you and then in R1 you once more showed lack of patience and pretty much decided you had to get past Snow on L1, clearly obvious when you braked so late that without leaning on Snow's car you would've never have made it out of Hawthorns (you still think that d-bombing and leaning on other cars in order to make it through a corner and gain places is ok)... so please try and grow up (racecraft-wise), as in any real-life touring car series you most probably would've already been punted off by now in order to take the time and think about improving...
Oh, and to finish this I'm going to use my psychic powers just this time and predict that you're going to say none of this was your fault...
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Yep...
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Actually with both silverstone and this I was up at his b pillar which in any form of motorsport dictates that the car in front has to give racing room to avoid a collision, snow didn't.
Also if you watch the replay which I'm sure you did you'll see I braked before snow did so how I was dive bombing id love to know, he also didn't give room as his line shows he was intending to cut the corner no matter who was there therefore he caused an avoidable incident.
If snow was patient (which other drivers agree he is not) and gave me room he would have known that the superior traction would have gained track position as the inside line would have meant I lost momentum but what does snow decide to do? Ram me off the track.
You seemed to have the same issue with andil again he was up the inside before the braking area you then came across his nose to cut him off but he was there and there was contact again another issue of not giving racing room and you complained about that.
I find it totally ironic that you both seem to complain about people that actually have real life racing experience in race and championship winning teams
I suppose that's why yous aren't.
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Put your handbags away people . AMD you do go for some over aggressive moves sometimes. I'll check replays later.
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The fact you braked before would only matter if both cars have same stopping power, which you should know by now they don't. Even though you braked earlier, he lost more speed than you did, and he was already accelerating into the corner when you hit him while still fully braking...
Not that I need to justify myself to you, but Andy and me settled this while still on lobby... my wheel fixing became loose and I lost some time while re-tightening it and by the time he caught up to me I was already getting back to normal pace, and he mistaked a wide entry into last corner (just like you did in Round 1, if you can remember that far), with me opening the door... obviously I was a bit crossed at first, but I fully understand his POV at that moment given how slow I was on the GP section of the track on that lap...
I find it totally ironic that you both seem to complain about people that actually have real life racing experience in race and championship winning teams
I suppose that's why yous aren't.
Also I'm pretty sure you don't actually race IRL like in the game, since in the latter you don't need to worry about damage and/or injuries and possible reprecussions that come from those... also is racecraft the only thing dictating if you're involved in racing? I'm pretty sure it isn't, so congrats on having more money/means than I do (I'm not including Andy in this particular bag though)
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Which replay were you watching as to me it looks like both cars are still on the brakes when contact was made.
Snow is clearly lined up for cutting the corner, if he had allowed racing room then we could have went round there side by side with no contact.
And that casing point would go back to you or snow.
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This what I mean, you were barely alongside to even make a pass, should have waited for a better opportunity later in the race especially with the straight line speed of the Alfa. If you were a bit further alongside him(like half a car alongside, or a little bit more) Snow would have probably given you space. Instead you come in really late when it's unlikely you'll get past anyway IMO
Anyway let's put our handbags away.
Anyway let's put our handbags away.
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Just wondering here, if there's clearly not enough space for a car on the inside (and especially since you said you braked first), what made you pick the inside over a very open outside line?
You seem to be asking for racing room when there's clearly no space to pass in the first place.
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I blame Dax.Which replay were you watching as to me it looks like both cars are still on the brakes when contact was made.
Snow is clearly lined up for cutting the corner, if he had allowed racing room then we could have went round there side by side with no contact.
And that casing point would go back to you or snow.
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My two cents:
Snow is one of the best drivers here and one of the most respected but has spent all season being a target board for approximately half the field. AMD is fast takes too many risks. Yeratel is quick but doesn't like crap, but sure as hell whinges off track.
Throwing toys out the pram because I won't release the ToCA12 specifications to anyone (not even my own teammates) but @FordMKIVJ5 @Spurgy 777 @paulmac2k9 is ridiculous. What 🤬 difference does it make if I release specs early, which are not finalised? What is the point? By keeping them under wraps no-one is gaining an advantage. ToCA12 isn't starting tomorrow. If you plainly can't trust me and 3 drivers to get specifications right (which you apparently cannot, or at least you put such an impression across), then why? Also the lame "Furi picks power car" comments in the lobby about the Volvo didn't make sense... especially if you'd stayed when we checked the speeds of cars across both specs and they are similar. The Suzuka stuff isn't sensible as that's a track that isn't suited for these cars, or the racing. Bathurst in case you forgot also hosts touring car races - and if you want to discount V8 Supercars i'll happily bring up the Super Touring and Group A events it has hosted for years. Quite frankly Yera, you are a hard working Steward, skilled driver, but also one of hell of a complainer off track.
Snow is one of the best drivers here and one of the most respected but has spent all season being a target board for approximately half the field. AMD is fast takes too many risks. Yeratel is quick but doesn't like crap, but sure as hell whinges off track.
Throwing toys out the pram because I won't release the ToCA12 specifications to anyone (not even my own teammates) but @FordMKIVJ5 @Spurgy 777 @paulmac2k9 is ridiculous. What 🤬 difference does it make if I release specs early, which are not finalised? What is the point? By keeping them under wraps no-one is gaining an advantage. ToCA12 isn't starting tomorrow. If you plainly can't trust me and 3 drivers to get specifications right (which you apparently cannot, or at least you put such an impression across), then why? Also the lame "Furi picks power car" comments in the lobby about the Volvo didn't make sense... especially if you'd stayed when we checked the speeds of cars across both specs and they are similar. The Suzuka stuff isn't sensible as that's a track that isn't suited for these cars, or the racing. Bathurst in case you forgot also hosts touring car races - and if you want to discount V8 Supercars i'll happily bring up the Super Touring and Group A events it has hosted for years. Quite frankly Yera, you are a hard working Steward, skilled driver, but also one of hell of a complainer off track.
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