Gen 5 Dodge Viper

[Parker]

What a damn shame.

 

[Ddrizle]

And the SRT Racing is officially dead

http://www.roadandtrack.com/racing/racing-news/dodge-srt-viper-gtsr-program-is-finished

Chest pain....

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Its just so sad the viper racing never gets a chance to ever stay on top. In 2000s Team Oreca wins the championship. and what happens to them the following year 2001. no longer running the viper. and here we are again the viper gets back to the top and

 

[psntomaz]

Clarification: SRT Motor sports isn't dead, viper racing program is. They are in the TA series with the challenger.

SRT can't sustain racing the viper, and competing in the Trans am series with the challenger now cause they have folded back into dodge. Meaning when SRT was a separate brand, SRT models profits was going towards SRT not dodge. People bitch about separating SRTs from dodge, and NOW they get pissed when they can't afford to do more than one racing series at a time.

Also do you think this could had been a exercise for the ACR viper? Cause a concept will be shown at SEMA....Every Viper concept became production

 

[McLaren]

Not necessarily. Every concept was changed in some way or another, subtle & drastically.

The Firepower and Copperhead were also Viper-based concepts; nothing came of them.

 

[Tornado]

People bitched about separating SRT from Dodge because it was stupid. Blaming how wildly mismanaged the whole thing was for also causing the Viper racing program to collapse is not inconsistent with the first thing.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

I was really hoping that the new ACR didn't have a back wing. Make it more for top speed then cornering

 

[psntomaz]

Not necessarily. Every concept was changed in some way or another, subtle & drastically.

The Firepower and Copperhead were also Viper-based concepts; nothing came of them.

I was talking about every concept of the new viper

Mopar Viper Concept = Viper TA

Mopar Viper (which mind you was created well before MT's shootout B-) )

Stryker Green Color Debut Viper Concept = 2015 Viper TA 2.0

Stryker Green Viper

TA 2.0

 

[Exorcet]

I was really hoping that the new ACR didn't have a back wing. Make it more for top speed then cornering

I'd hate more than anything for the Viper to become the next Hellcat, but if they were going to do that, why would it be the Viper ACR, which has always been a track car and indicates such by its very name?

Also as a side note, I hope the wing is so big that people complain it about looking like it came out of Fast of Furious. And that there is a full underbody aero package. If they did focus on underbody aero they could probably reach the last ACR's downforce target without nearly as big a drag hit.

 

[McLaren]

I was talking about every concept of the new viper

Of course you are now. Perhaps don't say "every Viper" without elaborating what gen you're talking about if you're going to use the term "every".

 

[psntomaz]

Of course you are now. Perhaps don't say "every Viper" without elaborating what gen you're talking about if you're going to use the term "every".

seriously what Viper concept havent been sent to production?

 

[McLaren]

seriously what Viper concept havent been sent to production?

Is reading a weak point for you?

Not necessarily. Every concept was changed in some way or another, subtle & drastically.

The Firepower and Copperhead were also Viper-based concepts; nothing came of them.

I'd hardly call the GTS/R Concept as something that made it to production considering the SRT-10 Convertible only retained the front design, engine, & basic interior layout. It wasn't until the Viper Competition that came years later that a production Viper looked anywhere similar.

 

[Blackbird.]

I'd hardly call the GTS/R Concept as something that made it to production considering the SRT-10 Convertible only retained the front design, engine, & basic interior layout. It wasn't until the Viper Competition that came years later that a production Viper looked anywhere similar.

The GTSR should have gone to production. Such a sexy looking viper.

It was my first username (GTSR_MAN)

 

[psntomaz]

The GTS/R was the Styling Direction for the Gen 3/4 Viper. Just as the 1992/3 GTS Coupe Concept was the Styling Direction (though a very subtle change) for the 1996 GTS Viper

 

[RACECAR]

So I just had abit of a thought: Now sure I was abit disappointed at the shutting down of the GTLM team. However, I was watching a Trans Am race and it suddenly hit me: Despite the rebranded name and color scheme (which if I'm honest, sorta really bought out the rose tinted spectacles for me), the team was still "SRT Motorsports". Meanwhile, Dodge is back in Trans Am and with Tommy Kendall (who previously was a driver for SRT) and full factory support. So with the sales of the Viper now actually picking up under the Dodge name (along with a healthy price drop that doesn't hurt either) and the SRT program shut down (after the restructuring months before), is there the possibility that depending on the sales of the Viper under the Dodge brand that perhaps the Viper program might get restarted under the Dodge Banner as well? I'm not suggesting that this could happen in 2015 as it seems pretty much too late to make any sort of effort but could that be a possility?

I'm also wondering if during that restructuring that this shut down was already decided and it was just us fans that found this out while everyone involved already knew.

 

[McLaren]

The GTS/R was the Styling Direction for the Gen 3/4 Viper. Just as the 1992/3 GTS Coupe Concept was the Styling Direction (though a very subtle change) for the 1996 GTS Viper

Except the 1996 GTS ended up actually looking like the '93 concept with details changed here & there, most notably in the front.

The GTS/R changed dramatically, hardly anything to call a "styling direction", seeing as half the entire car was scrapped when the SRT-10 came out.

 

[Dennisch]

Dammit. They look so good in Blue with white stripes.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Except the 1996 GTS ended up actually looking like the '93 concept with details changed here & there, most notably in the front.

The GTS/R changed dramatically, hardly anything to call a "styling direction", seeing as half the entire car was scrapped when the SRT-10 came out.

I actually would say they look very similar. The GTSR was obviously more extreme, but the body lines are basically identical. Same headlights, etc.

 

[psntomaz]

I actually would say they look very similar. The GTSR was obviously more extreme, but the body lines are basically identical. Same headlights, etc.

Yes, everything from the front clip, hood, side air vents, and tail lamps are identical. The only thing that isn't Is the rear fenders.

 

[McLaren]

Yes, everything from the front clip, hood, side air vents, and tail lamps are identical. The only thing that isn't Is the rear fenders.

Ironically, the rear fenders did actually stay remotely close by keeping that pronounced hip in the body line.

But, dem tail lights. They definitely stayed the same. That rear spoiler & closed cockpit stayed as well.

 

[RACECAR]

Realistically, only 20% of the GTSR ended up in the production Viper.

 

[Keef]

Realistically, only 20% of the GTSR ended up in the production Viper.

And stylistically, about 90% of it carried over. The change was much less drastic than the typical concept-to-production watering down that most cars experience.

 

[psntomaz]

Especially considering the GTSR was in Racing form.....which it actually raced as is

 

[McLaren]

And stylistically, about 90% of it carried over. The change was much less drastic than the typical concept-to-production watering down that most cars experience.

Your statistic is way off. 90%? Elaborate on 10% didn't make it. Pretty sure the decision to go with a convertible & no spoiler for starters is more than 10%.

Especially considering the GTSR was in Racing form.....which it actually raced as is

Which didn't arrive til' 4 years later.

You've made the claim that the GTS/R Concept did make it to production with the SRT-10, & now you're back tracking to the Competition Coupe. Unsurprising you can't keep the argument straight seeing as you were doing the same reaching in the Challenger thread.

 

[psntomaz]

Your statistic is way off. 90%? Elaborate on 10% didn't make it. Pretty sure the decision to go with a convertible & no spoiler for starters is more than 10%.

Which didn't arrive til' 4 years later.

You've made the claim that the GTS/R Concept did make it to production with the SRT-10, & now you're back tracking to the Competition Coupe. Unsurprising you can't keep the argument straight seeing as you were doing the same reaching in the Challenger thread.

It was just a general statement bout the GTSR and it being a race car from the start.

Also the concept car debuted in 2000, the competition coupe launched at Laguna in 2001. That's not 4 year's. It was the SRT 10 coupe that was revealed 4 years later in 2005.

 

[McLaren]

It was just a general statement bout the GTSR and it being a race car from the start.

Oh ok, so it went from a Concept-to-Production to now, it was a race car from the start. Well, it's not correct either way, so not an issue.

Also the concept car debuted in 2000, the competition coupe launched at Laguna in 2001. That's not 4 year's. It was the SRT 10 coupe that was revealed 4 years later in 2005.

Nope.

First, a little history. The Viper Competition Coupe is a 520-hp coupe version of the Viper SRT-10 roadster. It's not street-legal, and it's yours for $129,000, which is $44,205 steeper than a standard Viper. Since it went on sale last year, Dodge has sold 55 of them. It hopes to move about 25 a year.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/dodge-viper-competition-coupe-instrumented-test

1: The GTS/R did not "actually race as is" in the form of the Competition Coupe; it was a purpose built from the SRT-10 Roadster.
2: This article came out in 2004. The car went on sale last year. That would make it a 2003 debut. Funny how every other review also lists it as a 2003MY.

Here's something else that disproves your clams.

The Viper Competition Coupe was inspired by the 2000 Viper GTS/R concept race car

http://www.drivesrt.com/racing/heritage/viper-competition-coupe/

For a concept that raced as is (in your words), Dodge sure does seem to think of it more of an inspiration than a direct to production race car.

 

[sems4arsenal]

 

[RACECAR]

Hellz to the freaking yeeees.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Hellz to the freaking yeeees.

Looks better than I expected, didn't find a rear shot though sadly, would love to look at the rear and the spoiler.

Edit: found it

http://blog.caranddriver.com/caustic-acrostic-bad-ass-dodge-acr-viper-concept-debuts/

 

[ProjectWHaT]