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[TS]

Turbo lag. A while ago I heard someone say, "What's the difference between a 600 hp Supra and a 1200 hp Supra? They both run the same quarter mile times."

The Supra, especially the Mk. IV, can handle an incredible amount of boost, but the larger the turbo, the longer it takes to spool up. Give it a little more room than a quarter mile and it'll destroy the competition.

That was probably why the car was slow on acceleration.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

The biggest difference between a Supra and a Skyline R34 is when you go in Arcade mode, test track and drive with one of the cars stock.

I knew a Supra was faster like people mentioned but I didn' t knew it would beat it so easily

(Skyline 27X km/h, Supra 300! km/h) And that with 330 HP 👍

But in the corners, the story goes a little different

 

[GM]

Ignore (delete please moderator/admin)

 

[GM]

Ok, I've had this idea, to test all the Le Mans/Prototypes in GT4 at Test Course to see how fast they really are.

But, I don't own all the Le Mans cars, so I need your help.

Below is a checklist of all the cars that will be included, if the car has a '*' by it, it means I own it, all the other cars I do not own.

Anyway, all you have to do, is take a Prototype/Gorup C car to Test Course, run the Max Speed Test, record it's max speed and post it in this thread.


Pescarlo C60
Other Pescarlo
Toyota GT-ONE (Red Version)
Mazda 787B (Orange + Green Version)
Nissan R390 GT1 (Blue Version)
Mercesdes CLK-GTR AMG


I'll erase cars tested as we get further into the comparison

 

[Eric.]

Turbo lag. A while ago I heard someone say, "What's the difference between a 600 hp Supra and a 1200 hp Supra? They both run the same quarter mile times."

The Supra, especially the Mk. IV, can handle an incredible amount of boost, but the larger the turbo, the longer it takes to spool up. Give it a little more room than a quarter mile and it'll destroy the competition.

The problem is most likely lack of traction with a high torque RWD v. slightly lower torque AWDs.

 

[GM]

Anyone willing to help with the 'Le Mans' challenge?

 

[slider-s15]

i own most of those cars and would be more than willing to help. i need to spend some days. should the cars be standard? should they be retuned? these are the cars from the list that i own. (not including ones that you own)

Toyota Minolta
Toyota GT-ONE (Black Version)
Mazda 787B (Black Version)
Nissan R390 GT1 (Black Version)
Nissan R92CP (Black Version)
Audi R8
Bently Speed 8

hope i can help. get back to me.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Bad idea, the best is to post them each in their own category by year and stuff.

For example: Nissan R390GT1 vs. Mercedes CLK-GTR, Toyota GT-ONE vs. BMW V12 LMR, Bentley Speed 8 vs Audi R8

Comparing them all together would be a little unfair for some cars 👎

 

[GM]

Well I only need their top speed.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

OK, I'll give you these top speeds:

Audi R8
Toyota GT-ONE, both versions
Nissan R390 GT1, both versions
BMW V12 LMR

I got more but I'm kinda lazy and I've got to make a video for the WRS

 

[GM]

Ok, only do the ones that slider is'nt doing though (veiw post #157).


Thanks.

I'll try to post some speeds in the next half hour or so.

 

[GM]

This table shows all the LMP cars in Gran Turismo 4, and the speeds they acheive when driven at the Max Speed Test (Test Course).

Fastest

Nissan R92CP - 237.08 Mph
Toyota GT-ONE (Esso Red Livery) 236.79 Mph
Toyota GT-ONE (Black Version) 235.56 Mph
Toyota Minolta 235.07 Mph
Nissan R92CP (Black Version) 234.97 Mph
Audi R8 234.00 Mph
Mercesdes CLK GT-R, 233.54 Mph
Nissan R89C - 231.45 Mph
Bently Speed 8 230.86 Mph
BMW V12 LMR Race Car - 229.95 Mph
Nissan R390 GT1 (Black Version) 229.36 Mph
Nissan R390 GT-ONE (Blue Calsonic Livery) 229.22 Mph
Playstation Pescarlo/Judd C60 227.36 Mph
Peugeot 905 Race Car - 226.70 Mph
Mazda 787B (Black Version) 217.38 Mph
Mazda 787B (Orange + Green Livery) 217.23 Mph
Chapparel 2J Race Car - 215.80 Mph
Pescarlo Courage/Peugeot C60 213.13 Mph
Toyota 7 Race Car - 204.68 Mph
Ford GT40 Race Car - 203.58 Mph
Gillet Vertigo Race Car - 202.77 Mph

Slowest






Thank you to slider-s15 for helping me put this list together, he acctully tested more of the cars than me.​

 

[slider-s15]

here are my results for the lemans top speeds. (in MPH)

Toyota Minolta 235.07 MPH
Toyota GT-ONE (Black Version) 235.56 MPH**
Mazda 787B (Black Version) 217.38 MPH*
Nissan R390 GT1 (Black Version) 229.36 MPH
Nissan R92CP (Black Version) 234.97 MPH
Audi R8 234.00 MPH
Bently Speed 8 230.86 MPH

(Quick reference
**= fastest
*=slowest)

 

[GM]

Wow, thanks alot slider 👍

Some Rep coming your way very soon 👍

Thanks to slider, there are now only 5 cars left to test.

Mazda 787B (Orange + Green Livery)
Nissan R390 GT-ONE (Blue Calsonic Livery)
Toyota GT-ONE (Esso Red Livery)
Playstation Pescarlo
Pescarlo Judd

Any volunteers?

All you have to do is run the Max Speed Test at Test Course, note down the speed and PM it to me or post it in this thread. (Your name will be in the credits at the bottom when the list is complete )

 

[slider-s15]

i have a load of cash lying around want me to see if i can do the rest of the cars? shouldn't be a problem.

 

[GM]

Sure, if you want to 👍

Thanks

 

[slider-s15]

heres the rest of the le mans car top speed results. (MPH)

Mazda 787B (Orange + Green Livery) 217.23 MPH
Nissan R390 GT-ONE (Blue Calsonic Livery) 229.22 MPH
Toyota GT-ONE (Esso Red Livery) 236.79 MPH**
Playstation Pescarlo/Judd C60 227.36MPH
Pescarlo Courage/Peugeot C60 213.13 MPH*

(quick reference
**=fastest
*=slowest)

 

[GM]

Theres one more, Mercesdes CLK GT-R, but still, you've done far more of the list than me, well done and thanks alot 👍


I was thinking about making more of the same lists but with diffrent race gorups, such as one with cars such as Viper Oreca etc.


What do you all think?

 

[slider-s15]

sounds great im in if you need help. will run the merc and get the results up in a couple of minuets.

 

[GM]

I might need help, I don't know what group of (race) cars to do yet though.

 

[slider-s15]

heres the top speed result for the last lemans car. (MPH)

Mercesdes CLK GT-R, 233.54 MPH

just pm me when you decide what group your doing and if you need help.

 

[GM]

Okay, thanks

 

[GM]

Ok.

I'm going to do another version of the Le Mans test, using JGTC GT300 cars, if you want to help, sign yourself up for a car (or 2 or 3 etc.) which has'nt got an asterix (*) by it.

Once you've signed up, just take the car to Test Course Max Speed test, record the speed and post it in this thread. Simple



Cusco Impreza
RE Animeya RX-7
Weds Sport Celica
ASL Arta Garayia (JGTC)

Hope you can help 👍

 

[slider-s15]

i can do all those cars if you need me to. will get to work on it. get back to me!

 

[GM]

This test shows the top speed of all the JGTC GT300 Cars.​

Fastest​

RE Animeya RX-7 170.37 Mph
Weds Sport Celica 169.29 MPH
Nissan C-West RAZO Silva - 165.27 Mph
Cusco Impreza 163.23 Mph
Toyota Autobacs MR2 - 163.04 Mph
ASL Arta Garayia (JGTC) - 159.37 Mph
​

Slowest​

Thanks to slider-s15 for doing 4 of the cars.​

 

[slider-s15]

heres the top speed results for the remainng JGT cars. (MPH)

Cusco Impreza 163.23 MPH
RE Animeya RX-7 170.37 MPH
Weds Sport Celica 169.29 MPH
ASL Arta Garayia (JGTC) 159.37 MPH

there you go, enjoy!

 

[GM]

This list show the max speed for the DTM cars in GT4, it's incomplete.

Fastest


Mercesdes CLK Touring Car 188.07 Mph
Opel Astra Touring Car - 185.17 Mph
Vauxhall Astra Touring Car - 185.05 Mph
Audi A4 Touring Car - 184.44 Mph
Opel Calibra Touring Car 183.90 Mph
Audi TT Touring Car - 183.52 Mph
Alfa Romeo 155 Touring Car. 181.59 Mph
Mercesdes EVO II Touring Car 176.43 Mph



Slowest



Thank you slider-s15 for testing 4 of the cars.​

 

[slider-s15]

heres the top speed results for the DTM cars. (MPH)

Mercesdes CLK DTM Touring Car 188.07 MPH
Mercesdes EVO II Touring Car 176.43 MPH
Opel Calibra Touring Car 183.90 MPH
Alfa Romeo 155 Touring Car. 181.59 MPH

 

[GM]

This one will take awhile, but if anyone wants to help, it's greatly appriciated, and you go in the credits 👍

All you need to do is pick as many cars from the list that you own, take them to Test Course, run the Max Speed test, record thier speed, and post it in this thread.

If a car has an asterix (*) by it, that means that somebody is already going to test that car.

This list will be JGTC GT500 so here's the list.


Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R (JGTC) ('01)
Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC) ('03)
Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC) ('01)
Toyota Denso Sard Supra GT (JGTC) ('00)
Toyota Esso Ultraflo Supra (JGTC) ('01)

 

[slider-s15]

i have too much money. none of these should be a problem. im in! itl take me a while though.