[Gran Turismo 5 @ E3 2010] (SEE POST 1!: New Vids, Pics, Interviews!)
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Nice find! also i hear its going to be Biggest E3 ever, as well SONY should take the crown! GT5 confirmed! I just hope KAZ talks about ALL the features and suprises us with some cool videos and demonstrations of the new weather , night/day cycles, and damge models!!!
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- Reaper7411
I seem to recall this same feeling exactly one year ago. If there's no live demo, and just another lame, prerendered video tacked to the end of the presentation, my confidence in a 2010 release is gone.
I haven't dealt well with the last couple years GT-wise, and I'm in no way going to be getting my hopes up on faith alone. Right now, my excitement level is sitting at 'we'll see'
I haven't dealt well with the last couple years GT-wise, and I'm in no way going to be getting my hopes up on faith alone. Right now, my excitement level is sitting at 'we'll see'
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- amigo8833
Yeah, they're only one of the world's largest media conglomerates with revenue exceeding ¥ 7.730.0 trillion, or $78.88 billion U.S
But hey, some guy in a forum claims they don't know how to do business
Revenue is different from profit, pal.
Business class:
Revenue - cost = profit
For example, 78.8b -80b = -1.2b
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Seeing as you're from Hong Kong, I guess my wording might be a little confusing. What I'm saying is that it's likely that work on 3D implementation was not the reason for the delay. What I think is the cause of the delay are some combination of these things:
- Polishing up the interiors of 1000 cars to look as good as the exteriors.
- Improving the damage build.
- Improving weather, perhaps even dynamic weather which correlates to real world conditions collected from internet weather data.
- Improving night racing performance, perhaps even including daytime transition to night. You know, a number of headlights require a lot of computing power to reproduce properly, and day/night transitions aren't easy to do.
- Polishing up the livery editor features.
- Possible work on a track editor.
- Creating enough tracks for GT/Career Mode, Nascar and WRC. Perhaps all classic tracks will be included, and tracks are the hardest thing to incorporate properly as DLC.
- Building a comprehensive online system, which allows everything from one-off races in private lobbies to online league creation, as well as the Auction House and user storefronts.
- Streamlining the code in the PS3 hardware, so that as many cars can race online as possible. And at one point, Kaz said he was going to try very hard to go beyond 16 cars in a race.
- Structuring a Season and Career Mode to make GT5's offline gameplay as cool as it gets.
- And possibly secret stuff!
I'm not sure if something is getting lost in translation or not, but my expectations have pretty well been met with Prologue and especially with the Time Trial demo. I'm very happy with them. I'm not going to whine about how damage isn't perfect, or the engine notes are off key, or that I can't create racetracks from scratch like we'll be able to do in ModNation Racers. If there's no weather, I'm fine with that. As much as I want a livery editor, I won't throw a tantrum if I can't paint up my own race cars from scratch like I can in Forza.
What I want is GT4 but much improved, with an insane amount of stuff to do and collect. I want a nice online system with lots of tools we can use to create races and championships, a very nice offline system which is much like real life motorsports, and even more refined physics for all these cars than we had in the TT demo. That will be enough. All the other goodies will be thick, creamy icing on an already tasty cake.
Releasing flawed, rushed, unfinished, imperfect games is what many other developers do. And in case you hadn't noticed, most gamers are complaining loudly about that, especially as short as some of them are. I'm afraid you're in the minority on this point, because I think most gamers want a refined, bug-free, flawless racing experience with as many real world embellishments as possible, like damage and weather. I sure wouldn't want a game with issues, and some things not properly finished. And by the way, you don't know if the delay is because of 3D technology.
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Another thought on my predictions... first thing I would like to clear up is this, GT5 WILL come out this year. Peter Dille said that verbatim at GDC. It is one thing for the dev to say it but if the publishers says it... it falls into the 99.9% chance correct category.
I am just wondering how Sony will handle GT5 in the US. In Japan and Europe it will sell itself. But in America with a holiday season full of COD, Halo, Natal, Move, MOH among others how will GT5 stand out. And for GT standards the series has been relatively week in the States.
Also since the release is almost guaranteed to be a holiday release E3 is still far away... hence why I think TGS will provide more information.
I am just wondering how Sony will handle GT5 in the US. In Japan and Europe it will sell itself. But in America with a holiday season full of COD, Halo, Natal, Move, MOH among others how will GT5 stand out. And for GT standards the series has been relatively week in the States.
Also since the release is almost guaranteed to be a holiday release E3 is still far away... hence why I think TGS will provide more information.
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So how much info has be found through this thread so far?
(It shouldn't exist for another 38 days)
(It shouldn't exist for another 38 days)
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Actually, Gran Turismo sells only moderately well in Japan. While initial sales take off like crazy in all regions, Americans buy around twice as many GT games. Of course, Europe is Kazunori's best friend. Here are the sales of GT4.
Europe: 5.7 million (approx)
America: 2.3 million
Japan: 1.3 million
Other regions: 1 million
And as for your other "excitements" above and how GT5 will be noticed... oh, it'll be noticed all right.
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Do you have a link about the cost?
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"Seeing as you're from Hong Kong, I guess my wording might be a little confusing. What I'm saying is that it's likely that work on 3D implementation was not the reason for the delay. What I think is the cause of the delay are some combination of these things:"
I misunderstood your meaning by skimming through your post. I'm sorry. Many Hongkongers ' English are better than me
I misunderstood your meaning by skimming through your post. I'm sorry. Many Hongkongers ' English are better than me
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I've heard the news that there was a big drop in profit. I'm angry about the delay rather than serious about my argument. Sorry for any offence.
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"And by the way, you don't know if the delay is because of 3D technology."
https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-3d-support-confirmed-by-sony/
3D support was confirmed by Sony. 3D technology requires a large amount of time and it's challenging as told by the developing staffs. I guess that is the main reason for the delay.
https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-3d-support-confirmed-by-sony/
3D support was confirmed by Sony. 3D technology requires a large amount of time and it's challenging as told by the developing staffs. I guess that is the main reason for the delay.
TokyoDrift
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You would hope so!
GT5 will stand out because it is the only racing game amongst the stuff you mentioned, and is a massive AAA release for SONY. The amount of people waiting for, and talking about GT5 is insane.
I think it'll go something like:
- GT5 release announced during E3 press conference as Q4 2010 (so Nov/Dec)
- Cool new videos showcasing a more recent build, hopefully with damage, night racing, and weather if implemented
- There will be a new playable demo on the show floor
- Interviews will reveal a few new facts about the game
- Another few months of waiting between E3 and TGS
- TGS comes along with loads of new info about the impending release
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It's 2010, GT5 is 90% complete! But how can something so ineffable, so ethereal as GT5 even be measured? I think GT5 is already complete, but it just doesn't know that it's complete. All that remains is for GT5 to look at itself and realise it's oneness and unity with the whole, and it will be full of love, and ready.
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@ TD Q4 2010 is actually Jan/march 2011. You mean Q3 mate.
TokyoDrift
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When I say Q4 2010, I mean exactly that - Q4 2010, Oct/Dec. I know I put Nov/Dec in my post, but I forgot the word "late" before 2010.
If I wanted to say Q4 Fiscal Year 2010, I would have said so!
Mr Latte
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If GT5 is for the FALL then maybe best not to go expecting too much to be shown at E3.
Really take the PSP E3 situation of last year as an example:
Worst Case:
Possibly some details, a release date, a demo which may not even be new although showing a new Trailer.
Best Case:
Of course if its Summer release then expect quite the opposite with a full media blowout.
Really take the PSP E3 situation of last year as an example:
Worst Case:
Possibly some details, a release date, a demo which may not even be new although showing a new Trailer.
Best Case:
Of course if its Summer release then expect quite the opposite with a full media blowout.
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Only if he is speaking fiscally.
I remember about 10 minutes of Yamauchi speaking on GT PSP. There was a lot of information released at E# last years about GT PSP, and it released in October.
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Why would there be just a lame video (again) if GT5 is on E3's list????
Sometimes I really don't understand you guys
You mean those fake lists rolling around with 'lineup' misspelled? Is there a more credible list I've missed?
I do agree that *if* GT5 is a major part of E3, then it wouldn't make sense for it to be another lame video.
I still smell lame video.
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GT had never lame video..If you mean release date you re right.I always enjoy while watching GT trailers..There are alot of signs about GT5 in 2010. They could pushed back to Q1 2011 who knows..Nowadays Pd thinks future of gaming technologies.like sony do.Maybe to add new stuff they could push a couple months back again...
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Well if thats the official list then I would expect something spectacular for GT5, there is just nothing else on the Sony list to spend much time on I wouldn't have thought.
No AAA's apart from GT5.
At E3 this year I'm expecting an "evolution" of the video that came with GOWIII (maybe showing a new track and a few more cars) and a release date for Fall/Winter 2010, I'm not expecting too much specifically at E3. Maybe some more info on NASCAR and online as well. Then I expect more info to leak out on the way up to its date of release.
I don't follow video games as much as I have been recently so I'm not sure if I am being too pessimistic about what to expect at E3. Like, what is typically shown of blockbuster games that may be released in the same year at E3? What was shown for say, Modern Warfare 2 at E3 last year? A video/demo? More than that? I expect GT5 to get similar coverage as that game, but perhaps a little less because GT5 is exclusive to one console.
I don't follow video games as much as I have been recently so I'm not sure if I am being too pessimistic about what to expect at E3. Like, what is typically shown of blockbuster games that may be released in the same year at E3? What was shown for say, Modern Warfare 2 at E3 last year? A video/demo? More than that? I expect GT5 to get similar coverage as that game, but perhaps a little less because GT5 is exclusive to one console.
SrRd RacinG
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There's a lot of information that's waiting to be revealed or even clarified.
A smart choice is to release said information at the world's premiere gaming convention; E3.
Now, I don't recommend hoping to see it all at E3, but if 2010 is the year in which GT5 will release, a trailer doesn't suffice. GDC and TGS is a great way to expand on what E3 was with more demos and trailers. But, again, I think E3 would be the media's choice, and clearly Sony's choice. Sony has got a lot going on at E3 2010.
A smart choice is to release said information at the world's premiere gaming convention; E3.
Now, I don't recommend hoping to see it all at E3, but if 2010 is the year in which GT5 will release, a trailer doesn't suffice. GDC and TGS is a great way to expand on what E3 was with more demos and trailers. But, again, I think E3 would be the media's choice, and clearly Sony's choice. Sony has got a lot going on at E3 2010.
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In my opinion, if we get definite clarification on a lot of the stuff we already know (tracks, etc), and find out about all the stuff that is pretty much rumor whether its true or not (head tracking, track editor, etc), most people will probably be satisfied. I don't think i would even need to hear anything new, just definite confirmations and clarifications.
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http://e3.ign.com/
Greg Miller
"Sony will show hardcore gamers that they are a priority. While PlayStation Move will get some love, big games will be announced, and they'll come sooner than you think."
PlayStation Executive Editor
Perhaps this is a stretch, but might this refer to a game such as GT5?
Greg Miller
"Sony will show hardcore gamers that they are a priority. While PlayStation Move will get some love, big games will be announced, and they'll come sooner than you think."
PlayStation Executive Editor
Perhaps this is a stretch, but might this refer to a game such as GT5?
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