Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

Besides maybe being a PS3 title, is anybody else under the impression that GT6 will see Koenigsegg, Hennessey, BAC and premium RUFs, since they all appeared in the Drive Club intro?

I am not suggesting that they'd import cars from one game to another, but that a Sony studio has grabbed these licenses can only be a GOOD thing.
 
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If comments from the SCEE VP are "shaky", how would you describe the following "evidence" (ie. your theories) -


Big difference between someone on GTPlanet opining and a Sony VP talking to the media

His information could be outdated.

GT6 probably was indeed scheduled to release on PS3 this year. In fact for the longest time I believed that to be the case. But all signs point to Sony changing those plans and moving the title to PS4.

Think about how almost every developer was shocked at Sony equipping the PS4 with 8gbs of GDDR5 memory. There were big name developers tweeting about how surprised and happy they were. Changes can happen at the last minute while reamining unknown to industry insiders. GT6 on PS3 this year is likely something he heard sometime in 2012 but plans probably changed
 
His information could be outdated.

GT6 probably was indeed scheduled to release on PS3 this year. In fact for the longest time I believed that to be the case. But all signs point to Sony changing those plans and moving the title to PS4.

Think about how almost every developer was shocked at Sony equipping the PS4 with 8gbs of GDDR5 memory. There were big name developers tweeting about how surprised and happy they were. Changes can happen at the last minute while reamining unknown to industry insiders. GT6 on PS3 this year is likely something he heard sometime in 2012 but plans probably changed

THIS! 👍
 
His information could be outdated.

GT6 probably was indeed scheduled to release on PS3 this year. In fact for the longest time I believed that to be the case. But all signs point to Sony changing those plans and moving the title to PS4.

Think about how almost every developer was shocked at Sony equipping the PS4 with 8gbs of GDDR5 memory. There were big name developers tweeting about how surprised and happy they were. Changes can happen at the last minute while reamining unknown to industry insiders. GT6 on PS3 this year is likely something he heard sometime in 2012 but plans probably changed

Lol, I thought the info was misunderstood/incorrect/old until I heard the actual statement. I really want it on PS4 but after that audio clip I'm convinced it's PS3 until the official announcement says otherwise. Your 'evidence' is the only thing shaky.
 
His information could be outdated.

So the Senior Vice President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe is oblivious to the workings of his own company? I'd say knowing what game was releasing on what console would kind of be, well, his job.


There were big name developers tweeting about how surprised and happy they were.

Yes your right, developers were shocked, not Vice Presidents

Changes can happen at the last minute while reamining unknown to industry insiders.

I wouldn't exactly call Michael Denny an "industry insider", more a Vice President

GT6 on PS3 this year is likely something he heard sometime in 2012 but plans probably changed

Who do you think writes off on these changes?
 
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If there is going to be another GT on PS3, I say it will probably be GT6 prologue, if anything.

Perhaps updating GT5 to GT6 Prologue and call it Spec 3, I don't know, none of is do. SONY needs to address this, the end of June is too damned far away. Way too much dependency on E3.
 
So the Senior Vice President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe is oblivious to the workings of his own company? I'd say knowing what game was releasing on what console would kind of be, well, his job.




Yes your right, developers were shocked, not Vice Presidents



I wouldn't exactly call Michael Denny an "industry insider", more a Vice President



Who do you think writes off on these changes?

I would say history is proof of, in the least, the plausibility of Earth's argument:

"From a very surprising yet highly reliable source, we’ve got the most likely and realistic Gran Turismo 5 release date! Sony’s chief executive in southern Europe, James Armstrong, revealed in a statement to Spanish newspaper El Financiero that we can expect the game to arrive (in Europe, at least) Christmas 2009. Here’s the full translated quote:

"For next year, the chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment for southern Europe said that they are developing a new game thriller, in which the player may be designing their own history, and the new version of Gran Turismo, which will arrive at Christmas."

This would provide for a late summer release in Japan, and late fall/early winter releases in the United States and Europe. From a sales perspective, it would also provide the PlayStation franchise with a major blockbuster release heading into next year’s Christmas season. What do you think? Join the discussion in our Gran Turismo 5 forum!"

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-coming-christmas-2009/

Not only was Sony’s chief executive in southern Europe about a year off on his prediction, unlike Michael Denny's current statement, James Armstrong was also confirmed by other sources, both unofficial, and official.

It would be quite normal for a European Sony executive to be given information about a top Sony Japan project on a "need to know" only basis. They are not always privy to everything that goes on outside of Sony Europe, especially top development projects taking place in Japan. Chiefly, not the ones deemed to require the most extreme levels of secrecy, PS4 included. What information they are given could indeed quickly become outdate/incorrect, from only a single meeting taking place in Japan, and that new information may not leave the inner circles of the affected project for some time.

That said, Micheal Denny is "a bit" higher on the chain, but given the level of secrecy that tend to surround PD projects, it's hard to say exactly how much anyone outside of PD knows at any given moment. Sony's top people have actually claimed to be entirely uniformed at times with past titles, and even at times with GT6. How much of that is from leeway/autonomy granted to Pd, and how much is from Sony just dodging questions, I wouldn't want to hazard a guess.

---Most recent edit made because yours truly just realized M.D. holds an entirely different position within the company than I was thinking last night that he currently held. Doh! :)

That told me the error of my ways then :sly:

Frankly, I don't give a damn - and to paraphrase another quote: opinions are like bums; we all have one but there is no need to show it off all the time.

In truth I don't actually mind all of the opining - it makes for amusing reading to while away the time until we do know something. I was just wishing people good luck with it all - I know I'm not going to change the situation.

People take things so seriously...

Just saw this, and the exchange that followed it. Just let me say, it was not my intention to run you off. I am a firm believer in everyone's right to speak their mind.

Although I suspect you already know, with that right, comes, among other things, the specters of misunderstanding and misinterpretation. It doesn't help that reading words through a computer screen takes away such key parts of communication as facial expression, and tone of voice either.

Has such, I may indeed have took your comment has more than it was meant, and for that, I apologize if my response came across has a targeted aggression.

Indeed, I was only waxing a bit philosophical in the wee hours of the morning, to the goings on of the thread, and to what I interpreted has a frustrated lashing out of sorts.

Has far has I am concerned, everyone has as much right to comment on the state and subject of the thread has anyone else. There is some responsibility that goes with that, of course, and often time consequences for what we say, but has long has a person recognizes that, I for one will defend their right to speak.
 
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To be honest iam quite happy either way as long as the obvious issues get addressed, the only thing to worry about is that the first PS4 title doesn't come out halfway through the generation.
 
Aside from the question, what this VP actually knows, there's one thing that makes releasing GT6 on PS3 not such a great strategic move, and that is online gaming.

It can be assumed that GT5 will not be compatible online with GT6 even if it's out on PS3 (you can't even use a different version of GT5 online!). That means that once GT6 is out, you effectively divide the GT-gamers in half - those that will buy any GT-game that comes out, and those that don't want to buy essentially the same game with the same hardware-limitations a second time. So, even if GT6 on PS3 would be the game that GT5 was supposed to be, it will have a negative effect on its fanbase while still having the shortcomings of the PS3 hardware to contend with. Furthermore, the GT-fans would probably put off getting a PS4, if "their" game has just freshly come out on PS3 again.

Lastly, I don't think PS3 will live the long life of a PS2. New games will not be produced for PS3 anymore in a relatively short period of time, and that's when it's essentially dead. To keep GT-fans on a dying PS3 is counter-productive for Sony. If they try with a GT7 Prologue on PS4 shortly after GT6, they will further divide their online gamers, when all they should be thinking about is keeping their gamers in their entirety with one release.
 
Aside from the question, what this VP actually knows, there's one thing that makes releasing GT6 on PS3 not such a great strategic move, and that is online gaming.

It can be assumed that GT5 will not be compatible online with GT6 even if it's out on PS3 (you can't even use a different version of GT5 online!). That means that once GT6 is out, you effectively divide the GT-gamers in half - those that will buy any GT-game that comes out, and those that don't want to buy essentially the same game with the same hardware-limitations a second time. So, even if GT6 on PS3 would be the game that GT5 was supposed to be, it will have a negative effect on its fanbase while still having the shortcomings of the PS3 hardware to contend with. Furthermore, the GT-fans would probably put off getting a PS4, if "their" game has just freshly come out on PS3 again.

Er, this incompatibility thing you speak of is true of every sequel ever. Of course GT5 wouldn't be compatible with GT6 online, what would be the point?

Lastly, I don't think PS3 will live the long life of a PS2. New games will not be produced for PS3 anymore in a relatively short period of time, and that's when it's essentially dead. To keep GT-fans on a dying PS3 is counter-productive for Sony. If they try with a GT7 Prologue on PS4 shortly after GT6, they will further divide their online gamers, when all they should be thinking about is keeping their gamers in their entirety with one release.

PS2 survived for so long after any remotely big titles were released on it because of an amazingly diverse library, not because people craved new games for the sake of their shiny new-ness. PS3 has some of the strongest exclusives in the business; those could easily power sales for a while after PS4's release. Though I'll agree, probably not as long into PS4's life as PS2 did during PS3's reign, if only because PS2 enjoyed an unprecedented amount of dominance in its generation.
 
So Quantic and Naughty dog are finalizing efforts of their current gen titles but they have already announced them,would it be wise to have another developer (PD) also not start to work on a next gen exclusive (Doubt PD are large enough to split like ND)…

Still have my doubts to be honest,Time will tell but I still would bet the only thing we will get from PD at E3 is another vision gt demo
 
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...Just saw this, and the exchange that followed it...Indeed, I was only waxing a bit philosophical in the wee hours of the morning, to the goings on of the thread, and to what I interpreted has a frustrated lashing out of sorts...
Fair enough - it was the equivalent of a late night for me too after a ten hour night-shift of pallet emptying...so perhaps I vented a little too easily at all of the repetition in my absence. A pretty poor excuse from me, but we are all human.

No worries by the way, I didn't feel chased off. That was more of an ironic comment to AJ's post.

Nice use of the forum as resource by the way in your post above.
 
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Er, this incompatibility thing you speak of is true of every sequel ever. Of course GT5 wouldn't be compatible with GT6 online, what would be the point?

PS2 survived for so long after any remotely big titles were released on it because of an amazingly diverse library, not because people craved new games for the sake of their shiny new-ness. PS3 has some of the strongest exclusives in the business; those could easily power sales for a while after PS4's release. Though I'll agree, probably not as long into PS4's life as PS2 did during PS3's reign, if only because PS2 enjoyed an unprecedented amount of dominance in its generation.

Persona 4 is probably the most advanced fighting game on PS2 and it still cost $40 where I live and its in used condition. PS2 has some games the ps3 needs or need to remake. Kingdom Hearts the most.
 
Interview with Jim Ryan and Michael Denny on Playstation Blog:
PSB: Where does the PlayStation 4 announcement leave PlayStation 3?
JR: Typically history can help us only so far here. We’re actually still selling PS2s in regions such as the Middle East seven years after we introduced PS3. There are a number of reasons why the transition might be a bit more accelerated this time round, but PS3 is a very important part of our portfolio, certainly in 2013, 2014 and probably beyond that.
I’d point to the software line-up on PS3 that we have coming up – God of War: Ascension next month, The Last of Us, which is looking great, and Beyond later in the year. And there’s other stuff yet to be announced which is highly significant too. There’s a lot coming on PS3 and it’s going to be very important to us for some time yet.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/03/01/interview-jim-ryan-and-michael-denny-discuss-ps4/

Interesting that this time Jim Ryan says 'other stuff yet to be announced which is highly significant too', rather than saying GT6 like Denny did last time. GT6 would definitely be considered 'highly significant'.
 
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Interview with Jim Ryan and Michael Denny on Playstation Blog:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/03/01/interview-jim-ryan-and-michael-denny-discuss-ps4/

Interesting that this time Jim Ryan says 'other stuff yet to be announced which is highly significant too', rather than saying GT6 like Denny did last time. GT6 would definitely be considered 'highly significant'.

Well that spices up things alot now.Oh and we are the only region to still get the PS2, take that rest of the world.a
 
I think there is a chance that GT6 might be on PS3. Not sure if anyone had notice/said (30 pages is a lot to read through) but GT1 and GT2 were on PS1 while GT3 and GT4 was on PS2. I'm sure they are doing two versions of GT per PS generation.
 
PS2 survived for so long after any remotely big titles were released on it because of an amazingly diverse library

And when you consider possibly the biggest game of this gen, GTA5 releases mere months out from the PS4 launch, you can't help but think the PS3 (and even the XBOX 360) will survive well into 2014 and quite possibly beyond.



Aside from the question, what this VP actually knows, there's one thing that makes releasing GT6 on PS3 not such a great strategic move, and that is online gaming.

Isn't that kind of like releasing DLC that some have and some don't? Happens regularly in most online games
 
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I think there is a chance that GT6 might be on PS3. Not sure if anyone had notice/said (30 pages is a lot to read through) but GT1 and GT2 were on PS1 while GT3 and GT4 was on PS2. I'm sure they are doing two versions of GT per PS generation.

Already stated that tthis isn't relevant at all.
 
Already stated that tthis isn't relevant at all.

As per what? All we have is proof of the last 15 year history of Gran Turismo and the fact that every Playstation has recieved two full games.

I have yet to see anyone give me a relevant reason as to why it won't happen again. Just because doesn't count.

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As per what? All we have is proof of the last 15 year history of Gran Turismo and the fact that every Playstation has recieved two full games.

I have yet to see anyone give me a relevant reason as to why it won't happen again. Just because doesn't count.

:scared:

The fact that PD made previous games before GT on the PS1,the fact that PD made tourist trophy and GTPSP before GT5, the fact that we have GT5 prologue a stand alone game by itself.

The whole argument that PD make 2 games (regardless what it says on the cover is false).

Just summing up but if you read through previous pages you will get a more detailed response
 
As per what? All we have is proof of the last 15 year history of Gran Turismo and the fact that every Playstation has recieved two full games.

I have yet to see anyone give me a relevant reason as to why it won't happen again. Just because doesn't count.

:scared:

Because "every" Playstation is two. It's not enough data to say that it's a definitive pattern that will continue. If this was the eighth Playstation and there had been two main GT games for the last seven Playstations it might be more valid.
 
It's not enough data to say that it's a definitive pattern that will continue. If this was the eighth Playstation and there had been two main GT games for the last seven Playstations it might be more valid.

I do understand what you are saying SimonK, but since we have seen two GT games on the PS1 and PS2, I believe it is valid since that is all we have to go off of.

If I was a to place a bet down in Vegas for this, I see it two for two, and that's good odds.:)
 
...If I was a to place a bet down in Vegas for this, I see it two for two, and that's good odds.:)
Trouble is, those aren't the odds you'd be getting :sly: It'd be three to one that it'd go two for three...or something...and anyway, in Vegas that's probaly be more like ten to one, against.
 
since we have seen two GT games on the PS1 and PS2,

Sure, it's a hypothetical reason for a PS3 release, but there are just as many hypothetical reasons for a PS4 release


that is all we have to go off of.

Not true. Literally the only evidence we have is the, albeit unconfirmed, remarks of a Sony VP. Historical precedents, although enlightening, are not evidence.
 


I believe GT6 is a PS3 title, it would sell a lot more since huge amounts of people have a ps3 and GT5, a good way to refresh the ps3 sales at the end of it's cycle too, let us hope
 
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