Gran Turismo 7’s March Update is Coming Next Week with Three New Cars

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That is alot of math just to once again utter "They're totally saving cars for GT8".

Just thought of something @Famine : If those guesses of yours are accurate, that would make this an update without a single LCD car. Any idea what was the last update that had this happen?
 
I'm all for the weird and wonderful, but I feel like the CX-30 and CHR we got a few months ago miss both parts of that. They're pretty charmless - cars you would rent for a week-long holiday. EF Civic SI? All for it. Peugeot 205 Gti? Yes please. Generic washing machine cars from the past 10 years? I don't get it. I understand that cars like this have been part of GT since the beginning, but the 'lets just index the entire Japanese domestic market' era of GT2 isn't really possible anymore so these cars feel pretty conspicuously odd - they aren't part of a deep roster. I think resources should be spent on stuff somewhat interesting. There are a ton of ****boxes that I would gleefully welcome in GT7. How about a first gen Taurus SHO? Honda City Turbo? 1988 Buick Reatta? Citroen C6?
 
That is alot of math just to once again utter "They're totally saving cars for GT8".

Just thought of something @Famine : If those guesses of yours are accurate, that would make this an update without a single LCD car. Any idea what was the last update that had this happen?
I think it's around 35-40% of the updates that don't have an LCD car, it's not that uncommon.

January didn't have one was the last time, three Brand Central cars + the Civic in the UCD.
 
They say they're not saving stuff for GT8, they release cars when they're ready, why does everyone keep pedalling this nonsense.

It makes no sense to do this, especially when GT8 is hopefully 3-4 years away from release - and I still think that is optimistic.

I think you’re most likely off by 2-3 years.
PD can’t live on free updates and the bulk of GT7‘s sales are behind them.
Without any meaningful post launch monetization they still very much have to sell games.
 
I think you’re most likely off by 2-3 years.
PD can’t live on free updates and the bulk of GT7‘s sales are behind them.
Without any meaningful post launch monetization they still very much have to sell games.
It took them 5 years to turn GT Sport into a half baked GT career mode and another year to fill that out from the release of GT6.

I'm not saying there is zero chance of GT8 coming out in 2027... but I think its highly unlikely. And if it does then how different will it be compared to GT7 (like GTSports into GT7).

I'm hoping for a 2029 release, with everything I hope would be in GT7 - full day/night cycle and weather on all tracks and an extensive career mode that spans all licence types. Who knows, that could still be yet to come in GT7
 
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The thing that makes me think they don't hold cars back (other than, y'know, Kaz saying it), is - well, look at how randomly put together they tend to be.

There's no way you'd be manually choosing when cars go out from a pool of completed cars and not think "let's package these two S14 Silvias together", for instance, but they didn't do that.
 
It took them 5 years to turn GT Sport into a half baked GT career mode and another year to fill that out from the release of GT6.

I'm not saying there is zero chance of GT8 coming out in 2027... but I think its highly unlikely. And if it does then how different will it be compared to GT7 (like GTSports into GT7).

I'm hoping for a 2029 release, with everything I hope would be in GT7 - full day/night cycle and weather on all tracks and an extensive career mode that spans all licence types. Who knows, that could still be yet to come in GT7

GT Sport is a very different beast.

Today we would call GTS‘s initial release
“Early access”. It was released as an empty shell and filled up with content afterwards.

GT7 was (is) very much a compete game from the get go.

GTS was the reset for the franchise and also the foundation for the next games.

GT7 was iterative and I assume GT8 will be the same.
 
GT Sport is a very different beast.

Today we would call GTS‘s initial release
“Early access”. It was released as an empty shell and filled up with content afterwards.

GT7 was (is) very much a compete game from the get go.

GTS was the reset for the franchise and also the foundation for the next games.

GT7 was iterative and I assume GT8 will be the same.
I think that was meant to convince me that GT8 is coming soon... but if anything its made me more convinced its at least 3-4 years away.
 
I am actually looking forward to the Renault Kangoo the most. Never thought in million years we would see that in a top racing game.
It seems that you are ignoring a lot of very lame cars (in terms of racing) we already have and always have had in GT franchise.
 
Not a single long-running game series is releasing games the way they did in the 2000s or even early 2010s. Most are taking years (plural) longer for each installment than they used to. The few that aren't (CoD, Madden) are only keeping up by adding multiple "support studios". Last I checked Kaz and PD are not the type to entrust large parts of their game to other studios, so I don't see any possibility that weren't not in the first scenario.
 
I think that was meant to convince me that GT8 is coming soon... but if anything its made me more convinced its at least 3-4 years away.

Not soon, but also not 3-4 years.

Not a single long-running game series is releasing games the way they did in the 2000s or even early 2010s. Most are taking years (plural) longer for each installment than they used to. The few that aren't (CoD, Madden) are only keeping up by adding multiple "support studios". Last I checked Kaz and PD are not the type to entrust large parts of their game to other studios, so I don't see any possibility that weren't not in the first scenario.

I mean sure. But look at other Sony studios and you’ll find plenty of examples for 4-5 year dev cycles - even in very current franchises.

Horizon, God of War, Spider Man, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding and so on.

Don’t know why GT should take 7 to 8 years. 🤷‍♂️
 
I mean sure. But look at other Sony studios and you’ll find plenty of examples for 4-5 year dev cycles - even in very current franchises.

Horizon, God of War, Spider Man, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding and so on.

Don’t know why GT should take 7 to 8 years. 🤷‍♂️
As was already said, support studios is the answer. The likes of Malaysia Studio and XDev have helped towards those games. Sony also used Bend and Bluepoint to help out after they'd finished their own games. PD may be doing the same but somehow it doesn't seem their style.
 
It seems that you are ignoring a lot of very lame cars (in terms of racing) we already have and always have had in GT franchise.
Probably not exactly the Kangoo though. The Pao? Yes. Kangoo? No. I have shopped the Kangoo, but was settling on the Trafic F1 edition. For this game, that one may have seemed more likely.
I mean, there is the Odyssey in the franchise. Plus the Alphard brought back the van category. Will be interesting what else we get. Maybe a Conversion van. ;)
 
As was already said, support studios is the answer. The likes of Malaysia Studio and XDev have helped towards those games. Sony also used Bend and Bluepoint to help out after they'd finished their own games. PD may be doing the same but somehow it doesn't seem their style.

So how did they go from GTS to GT7 in five years, yet it will take them 7–8 years to crank out the next one? If anything, it should take less time, considering that, unlike GTS, GT7 was released as a finished product. I can see another five years because—why not? But 7–8? Nah.

I think people around here just like being pessimistic for the sake of it.
 
I believe the biggest reason why GT8 will be released in two or three years is that PD needs to release a dedicated GT for the PS5, exploring its full potential to help developers gain knowledge on the hardware, before they focus on working on the PS6, which is rumored to be released in late 2027.

In fact, Ivo (the developer who appeared on Reddit) said that GT7 was limited by the PS4. For all intents and purposes, GT7 is a dated game in terms of development. GT8 would give PD's developers the opportunity to have the PS5's ceiling as a limit, exploring not only the graphical potential, but Sophy on more powerful hardware.

PD is not a philanthropic company. They need to make money. It is known that GT7 is selling very well, but nothing will compare to a new title with new and different content. Releasing a new game called "GT8", perhaps a turbocharged version of GT7, with more modern racing cars, is a smart business move.

Also, I believe the periodic DLC schedule was decided a long time ago and these are minor updates (no gimmicks) that won't sell a new title or motivate those who haven't bought it yet. I'd bet that the big stuff (sports cars and modern race cars) will be used in GT8's marketing.

PD and Sony know what they need to deliver to sell GT8 to the masses. GT8 will likely be a cross-gen game that will have the PS5's large installed base as a revenue driver.
 
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So how did they go from GTS to GT7 in five years, yet it will take them 7–8 years to crank out the next one? If anything, it should take less time, considering that, unlike GTS, GT7 was released as a finished product. I can see another five years because—why not? But 7–8? Nah.

I think people around here just like being pessimistic for the sake of it.
GT release dates promote pessimism.
 
People need to realise that us dedicated forum members are the 0.1%, and so many more casual players out there in the real world are extremely happy about variety, nostalgic ****boxes, and oddball additions.
Your claim on how casual players feel is completely baseless. It all comes down to personal preferences.
Strange update, practically as always. Looks like the much requested Vantage has arrived. Mazda CX-30 and Renault Kangoo don't do a lot for me. Then again, it's free so can't complain too much.
You can complain all you want.
 
I'm all for the weird and wonderful, but I feel like the CX-30 and CHR we got a few months ago miss both parts of that. They're pretty charmless - cars you would rent for a week-long holiday. EF Civic SI? All for it. Peugeot 205 Gti? Yes please. Generic washing machine cars from the past 10 years? I don't get it. I understand that cars like this have been part of GT since the beginning, but the 'lets just index the entire Japanese domestic market' era of GT2 isn't really possible anymore so these cars feel pretty conspicuously odd - they aren't part of a deep roster. I think resources should be spent on stuff somewhat interesting. There are a ton of ****boxes that I would gleefully welcome in GT7. How about a first gen Taurus SHO? Honda City Turbo? 1988 Buick Reatta? Citroen C6?
We also can't live solely in the past. I also don't care for the CX-30 or C-HR but if I go for a drive to the shops and back I'll probably see them, they're a part of the modern world of cars more relevant than the 205 GTI or EF Civic (sadly). It's a sign of the times that the vehicles people tend to drive nowadays are god awful oversized hatchbacks that clog the sight lines of streets by being needlessly big in order to serve the sentiment of "when I'm in a taller vehicle I feel safe."

But as with any car that's included, it's about what you can do with it. In an earlier game they'd have maybe made an event just for these bloated things, but much like a large amount of cars in the game they don't make events for them. And even if they did it sort of feels pointless as it's not for the sake of game progression.
 
Let's calculate that rate.
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The lifetime mean is 4.06 cars/month (well... a little less accounting for the two-week offset, but let's not get silly).

Thanks to a few months with big car-count updates (anyone remember the days of 12 cars), Sport ticked above that right through to the end of its life, and then when GT7 arrived it also was still above the line. We've only really recently started to reach the mean again - but the pace across 7's life has been pretty reliably three cars a month (actually 2.9; 105 as of the next update in 36 months), with the mode for each update being three and the mean being 3.8 (per update, not month).

The mean from the last multi-car update in GT Sport in February 2020 to the launch of GT7 in March 2020 was... 3.71 cars per month (again, a little less accounting for the one-week offset but no need to get silly). Again, that's pretty much what we've been seeing across GT7's life - a little higher - but during the flat-out period leading up to a game's launch.

Of course there were those four months in 2024 when we got absolutely nothing - and one would think if PD had another 50 cars (if you want to say 3.71/mo in the lead up to 7 and 2.92/mo now, over 36 months that'd be a surplus of 28 cars, rather than 50) available they'd have stuck 12 cars in for those months rather than deal with the massively negative community reaction from that. Which is another "X" in the "they're saving up content for GT8" box. Oh and Sport also had five no-car months across its 27 months of support (before the "more modest" 2020), although one was the month we got Goodwood but no cars...


Track locations are absolutely tracking below the mean line now (and even then, one of the GT7 launch bumps was the separation of Sardegna into two locations), assuming no March 2025 track. No shock there, and I have no idea what's going on but we do keep on saying that in all our podn'tcasts. Something must be close to being ready by now, as we're right in the window of the last two.
 
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