Gran Turismo 7 Booklet Confirms Ferrari F8 and F12, More Details on Car Dealers & Tuning

[warp9engage]

That'd be me. It says "300", not "200".
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I was referring to our car tally, not the number on the booklet. A little below, you say our car tally (including all of GT Sport's list) for cars over 2011, is 200. Is that the number of 2011+ cars we are currently at?

 

[Famine]

I was referring to our car tally, not the number on the booklet. A little below, you say our car tally (including all of GT Sport's list) for cars over 2011, is 200. Is that the number of 2011+ cars we are currently at?

That rather depends on what you classify as a car newer than 2011. A lot of cars in GT Sport - the fictional Gr1/3/4/B/X race cars and Vision GTs - don't have a year of manufacture. But yes.

 

[warp9engage]

That rather depends on what you classify as a car newer than 2011. A lot of cars in GT Sport - the fictional Gr1/3/4/B/X race cars and Vision GTs - don't have a year of manufacture. But yes.

Ok, so that I understand, you're not counting VGTs and those race cars?

 

[Magog]

Ok, so that I understand, you're not counting VGT's and those race cars?

They almost certainly will count those as the creation date is either set in the future or at the time it was made by the developer.

 

[warp9engage]

They almost certainly will count those as the creation date is either set in the future or at the time it was made by the developer.

I know the devs will. What I'm wondering is if Famine counted them as well.

 

[Samus]

I gave them all a nominal date of 2017 and as already mentioned, doing that we currently have:

131 cars from 2011 onwards in GT7.

• 170 more (either new or what is left in GTS) gets us to the 301 cars from 2011 onwards.
• 110 pre 2010 cars already in the list and we're at..

411 total. Assume then another ~30 pre-2011 cars and we're at 441.

So the numbers would just about work but it seems unlikely of the ~200 cars we're yet to see, 170 of them will be post 2011 cars. But they're going to have to be if both the 300 post 2011 and ~420 total are both correct.

 

[Strittan]

It might not be, but a whole lot of their Japanese fans are gonna feel pretty misled if it's not. Seriously, copy and paste that little Japanese phrase into Google. I get stuff like this:

If that’s drag racing according to PD they could as well leave it out altogether in my opinion.

This is more along the lines of what I’m talking about:

 

[warp9engage]

I gave them all a nominal date of 2017 and as already mentioned, doing that we currently have:

131 cars from 2011 onwards in GT7.

• 170 more (either new or what is left in GTS) gets us to the 301 cars from 2011 onwards.
• 110 pre 2010 cars already in the list and we're at..

411 total. Assume then another ~30 pre-2011 cars and we're at 441.

So the numbers would just about work but it seems unlikely of the ~200 cars we're yet to see, 170 of them will be post 2011 cars. But they're going to have to be if both the 300 post 2011 and ~420 total are both correct.

I believe you're making a mistake in those calculations. You're adding cars twice. Don't forget a lot of the list we know for GT7 overlaps with that of GT Sport. Cars that are in both games shouldn't be counted twice.

I did a count just now, assuming all of GT Sport's car list makes the jump, as it is. I used Kudos Prime for the GT Sport list, and counted all cars listed without years as being 2011+. Some obvious exceptions like the classic PD Formula car were ignored. With that in mind, GT Sport contains around 220 cars from 2011 onward. Based on the list we have, here on GTPlanet, 19 cars, from 2011 onward, are new for GT7, so far. Which means, we currently stand at around 240 cars in that age bracket. We need another 60 VGTs, fictional race cars, or real modern cars to reach the 300 mark.

 

[Samus]

I'm not counting twice, I'm just not automatically assuming all cars return and only going off the GT7 list, so the 170 number is either GTS cars we haven't seen yet in GT7 or new cars.

But yes, if they all do return then your math seems correct.

 

[warp9engage]

I'm not counting twice, I'm just not automatically assuming all cars return and only going off the GT7 list, so the 170 number is either GTS cars we haven't seen yet in GT7 or new cars.

But yes, if they all do return then your math seems correct.

My bad. "170 either new of from GTS". Missed that.

EDIT: Further maths tell me that, with all cars from GT Sport, plus all the new ones we know of, plus the 60 or so needed to reach the 300 at Brand Central, we would be looking at a final list of 445-450 cars. The biggest problem with all this, is that I don't believe there will be an influx of only 2011+ cars, with zero others from prior periods, from now to launch. As much as I may like that to happen, it's not like Polyphony, and it wouldn't be very fair.

 

[GBalao888]

Another interesting detail is that the Porsche 917 Living Legend has 990ps (976hp). Looks like that thing will be really fast indeed.

 

[Interstellar9]

I would still like to know what the difference in details will be between the PS4 and PS5 Versions, hopefully Sony will have more PS5’s readily available before the Game releases, still looking forward to its release though either way.

Loading times is what I'm especially interested in.

 

[JHC]

I hope the two Ferraris are from the years 2012 and 2020, and are called like this:

Ferrari F8 Tributo '20
Ferrari F12berlinetta '12

 

[Magog]

Loading times is what I'm especially interested in.

I would expect them to be the same as sport. Same number of cars on track. In the latest video the producer states that PS5 players will load into a session much quicker and can start runs before ps4 players can load the track.

 

[05XR8]

Yes I'm leaning towards this, thinking about it more. Although I'm not sure in what regard. Maybe it's 300 cars in Brand Central that are either 2011+ or some other type of distinction that isn't mentioned.

Is your 200 GTS cars including all the undated but obviously 2011+ Gr. + VGTs though?

That’s why I said the years could balance out, including the VGT, Gr.1, Gr.3. & Gr.4. Many of which, don’t have a year.

 

[Interstellar9]

I would expect them to be the same as sport. Same number of cars on track. In the latest video the producer states that PS5 players will load into a session much quicker and can start runs before ps4 players can load the track.

Yeah, I meant the PS5 loading times. How quick are they? Less than 3 seconds? Would be great.

 

[GBalao888]

I believe you're making a mistake in those calculations. You're adding cars twice. Don't forget a lot of the list we know for GT7 overlaps with that of GT Sport. Cars that are in both games shouldn't be counted twice.

I did a count just now, assuming all of GT Sport's car list makes the jump, as it is. I used Kudos Prime for the GT Sport list, and counted all cars listed without years as being 2011+. Some obvious exceptions like the classic PD Formula car were ignored. With that in mind, GT Sport contains around 220 cars from 2011 onward. Based on the list we have, here on GTPlanet, 19 cars, from 2011 onward, are new for GT7, so far. Which means, we currently stand at around 240 cars in that age bracket. We need another 60 VGTs, fictional race cars, or real modern cars to reach the 300 mark.

Thing is though, cars like the Honda Fit Hybrid, Toyota Aqua S and Toyota 86 GT Limited are in the Used Car Dealerships, according to the pamphlet, despite them being from at least 2011 and in more recent times.

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Brand Central:

1. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr. 3
2. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr. 3 Road Car
3. Alfa Romeo 4C Gr. 4
4. Alfa Romeo 4C Launch Edition ‘14
5. Alpine A110 Première Édition ‘17
6. Alpine Vision Gran Turismo
7. Alpine Vision Gran Turismo 2017
8. Alpine Vision Gran Turismo Race Mode
9. Aston Martin DB11 ’16
10. Aston Martin DP-100 Vision Gran Turismo
11. Aston Martin One-77 ‘11
12. Aston Martin V8 Vantage S ’15
13. Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 ’12
14. Aston Martin Vantage Gr. 4
15. Aston Martin Vulcan ‘16
16. Audi e-tron Vision Gran Turismo
17. Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) ’15
18. Audi R8 LMS EVO ’19
19. Audi R18 (Audi Sport Team Joest) ‘16
20. Audi R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) ‘11
21. Audi TT Cup ‘16
22. Audi TTS Coupe ‘14
23. Audi Vision Gran Turismo
24. BAC Mono ’14
25. BMW i3 ‘15
26. BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) ‘11
27. BMW M4 Coupe ‘14
28. BMW M4 Gr. 4
29. BMW M4 Safety Car
30. BMW M6 GT3 (M Power Livery) ‘16
31. BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) ‘16
32. BMW Vision Gran Turismo
33. BMW Z4 GT3 ‘11
34. Bugatti Veyron 16.4 ‘13
35. Bugatti Veyron Gr. 4
36. Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo
37. Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 1)
38. Chevrolet Chaparral 2X Vision Gran Turismo
39. Chevrolet Camaro SS ‘16
40. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Package ’18
41. Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr. 3
42. Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr. 3 Road Car
43. Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr. 4
44. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) ‘14
45. Chris Holstrom Concepts 1967 Chevy Nova
46. Citroen DS3 Racing ‘11
47. Daihatsu Copen RJ Vision Gran Turismo
48. Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat ‘15
49. Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Safety Car
50. Dodge SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 1)
51. Dodge SRT Tomahawk GTS-R Vision Gran Turismo
52. Dodge SRT Tomahawk S Vision Gran Turismo
53. Dodge SRT Tomahawk X Vision Gran Turismo
54. Dodge Viper Gr. 4
55. Dodge Viper GTS ‘13
56. Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R ‘15
57. Eckerts Rod & Custom Mach Forty
58. Ferrari 458 Italia Gr. 4
59. Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 ‘13
60. Ferrari F8 Tributo ’20
61. Ferrari F12berlinetta ’12
62. Ferrari FXX K ’14
63. Ferrari LaFerrari ‘13
64. Fittipaldi EF7 Vision Gran Turismo by Pininfarina
65. Ford F-150 SVT Raptor ‘11
66. Ford Focus Gr. B Rally Car
67. Ford Focus ST ‘15
68. Ford GT ’17
69. Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II
70. Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car
71. Ford GT Race Car (Ford Chip Ganassi Team - IMSA) ’18
72. Ford Mustang Gr. 3
73. Ford Mustang Gr. 3 Road Car
74. Ford Mustang Gr. 4
75. Ford Mustang Gr. B Rally Car
76. Ford Mustang GT Premium Fastback ‘15
77. Ford Shelby GT350R ’16
78. Genesis G70 GR4
79. Genesis X GR3
80. GReddy Fugu Z
81. Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
82. Gran Turismo F1500T-A
83. Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125 Shifter
84. Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Junior
85. Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Standard
86. Gran Turismo Red Bull X2019 Competition
87. GT by Citroen Gr. 4
88. GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr. 3)
89. GT by Citroen Road Car
90. Honda Civic Type R (FK2) ‘15
91. Honda NSX ‘17
92. Honda NSX Gr. 3
93. Honda NSX Gr. 4
94. Honda NSX Gr. B Rally Car
95. Honda Project 2&4 powered by RC213V
96. Honda RAYBRIG NSX CONCEPT-GT ‘16
97. Honda S660 ’15
98. Honda Sports Vision Gran Turismo
99. Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track ‘13
100. Hyundai Genesis Gr. 3
101. Hyundai Genesis Gr. 4
102. Hyundai Genesis Gr. B Rally Car
103. Hyundai N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo
104. Hyundai N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 1)
105. Infiniti Concept Vision Gran Turismo
106. IsoRivolta Zagato Vision Gran Turismo
107. Jaguar F-Type Gr. 3
108. Jaguar F-Type Gr. 4
109. Jaguar F-Type R Coupe ‘14
110. Jaguar Vision Gran Turismo Coupe
111. Jaguar Vision Gran Turismo SV
112. KTM X-Bow R ‘12
113. Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 ’11
114. Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 SuperVeloce ’15
115. Lamborghini Huracan Gr. 4
116. Lamborghini Huracan GT3 ‘15
117. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 ‘15
118. Lamborghini Lambo V12 Vision Gran Turismo
119. Lamborghini Veneno ‘14
120. Lexus au TOM’S RC F ‘16
121. Lexus LC 500 ‘17
122. Lexus LF-LC GT Vision Gran Turismo
123. Lexus RC F ‘14
124. Lexus RC F Gr. 4
125. Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) ‘17
126. Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) ‘16
127. Mazda Atenza Gr. 3
128. Mazda Atenza Gr. 3 Road Car
129. Mazda Atenza Gr. 4
130. Mazda Atenza Sedan XD L Package ‘15
131. Mazda Demio XD Touring ’15
132. Mazda LM55 Vision Gran Turismo
133. Mazda LM55 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 1)
134. Mazda Roadster S (ND) ‘15
135. Mazda Roadster Touring Car
136. Mazda RX-Vision ’15
137. Mazda RX-Vision GT3 Concept ’20
138. McLaren 650S Coupe ‘14
139. McLaren 650S Gr. 4
140. McLaren 650S GT3 ‘15
141. McLaren P1 GTR ‘16
142. McLaren Ultimate Vision Gran Turismo
143. McLaren Ultimate Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 1)
144. Mercedes-AMG GT R ’17
145. Mercedes-AMG GT S ‘15
146. Mercedes-AMG GT S Safety Car
147. Mercedes-AMG F1 W08 EQ Power + 2017
148. Mercedes-AMG F1 W08 EQ Power + (Color Variation) 2017
149. Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) ‘16
150. Mercedes Benz A 45 AMG 4MATIC ‘13
151. Mercedes Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo
152. Mercedes Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo LH Edition
153. Mercedes Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo Racing Series
154. Mercedes Benz SLS AMG Gr. 4
155. Mercedes Benz SLS AMG GT3 ‘11
156. Mini Clubman Vision Gran Turismo
157. Mitsubishi Concept XR-PHEV Evolution Vision Gran Turismo
158. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition ‘15
159. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr. 3
160. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr. 4
161. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr. B Rally Car
162. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr. B Road Car
163. Nissan Concept 2020 Vision Gran Turismo
164. Nissan GT-R Gr. 4
165. Nissan GT-R Gr. B Rally Car
166. Nissan GT-R LM NISMO ‘15
167. Nissan GT-R NISMO ‘17
168. Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport ‘13
169. Nissan GT-R Premium Edition ‘17
170. Nissan GT-R Safety Car
171. Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R ‘16
172. Pagani Huayra ‘13
173. Peugeot 208 GTi by Peugeot Sport ‘14
174. Peugeot L500R Hybrid Vision Gran Turismo 2017
175. Peugeot L750R Hybrid Vision Gran Turismo 2017
176. Peugeot RCZ Gr. 3
177. Peugeot RCZ Gr. 4
178. Peugeot RCZ Gr. 3 Road Car
179. Peugeot RCZ Gr. B Rally Car
180. Peugeot RCZ GT Line ‘15
181. Peugeot Vision Gran Turismo
182. Peugeot Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 3)
183. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) ’16
184. Porsche 911 RSR (991) ’17
185. Porsche 917 Living Legend
186. Porsche 919 Hybrid (Porsche Team) ’16
187. Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport ‘16
188. Porsche Taycan Turbo S ’19
189. Porsche Vision Gran Turismo
190. RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
191. Renault Sport Clio R.S. 220 EDC Trophy ‘15
192. Renault Sport Clio R.S. 220 EDC Trophy ‘16
193. Renault Sport Megane Gr. 4
194. Renault Sport Megane R.S. Trophy ‘11
195. Renault Sport Megane R.S. Trophy Safety Car
196. Renault Sport Megane Trophy ‘11
197. Renault Sport R.S. 01 ‘16
198. Renault Sport R.S. 01 GT3 ‘16
199. Subaru BRZ S ‘15
200. Subaru Falken Tire/Turn 14 Distribution BRZ ‘17
201. Subaru VIZIV GT Vision Gran Turismo
202. Subaru WRX Gr. 3
203. Subaru WRX Gr. 4
204. Subaru WRX Gr. B Rally Car
205. Subaru WRX Gr. B Road Car
206. Subaru WRX STI Isle of Man Time Attack Car ‘16
207. Subaru WRX STI Type S ‘14
208. Dallara SF19 Super Formula/Honda ‘19
209. Dallara SF19 Super Formula/Toyota ‘19
210. Tesla Model S Signature Performance ‘12
211. Toyota 86 Gr. 4
212. Toyota 86 Gr. B Rally Car
213. Toyota 86 GRMN ‘16
214. Toyota 86 GT ‘15
215. Toyota Crown Athlete G ’13
216. Toyota Crown Athlete G Safety Car
217. Toyota FT-1 ‘14
218. Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo
219. Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 3)
220. Toyota GR 86 ’21
221. Toyota GR Supra (Nurburgring 24 Hours Race 2019 Livery)
222. Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept ‘18
223. Toyota GR Supra RZ ‘19
224. Toyota GR Supra RZ ’20
225. Toyota GR Yaris 1st Edition RZ “High Performance” ’20
226. Toyota S-FR ‘15
227. Toyota S-FR Racing Concept ‘16
228. Toyota TS030 Hybrid ‘12
229. Toyota TS050 - Hybrid (Toyota Gazoo Racing) ‘16
230. Toyota Tundra TRD Pro ’19
231. Volkswagen Beetle Gr. 3
232. Volkswagen Golf VII GTI ‘14
233. Volkswagen GTI Roadster Vision Gran Turismo
234. Volkswagen GTI Supersport Vision Gran Turismo
235. Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr. 3)
236. Volkswagen Polo GTI ’14
237. Volkswagen Scirocco Gr. 4

Used Car Dealerships:

1. Abarth 500 ’09
2. Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione ’08
3. Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport ‘09
4. Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic ’07
5. Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro ‘03
6. BMW M3 Coupe ’03
7. BMW M3 Coupe ‘07
8. BMW M3 Evolution II ’89
9. BMW M3 Sport Evolution ‘89
10. BMW Z8 ‘01
11. Chevrolet Camaro Z28 ’69
12. Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) ’90
13. Daihatsu Copen Active Top ’02
14. Dodge Challenger R/T ‘70
15. Dodge Coronet Super Bee ’70
16. Dodge Viper GTS ‘02
17. Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe ‘06
18. Ferrari 458 Italia ‘09
19. Fiat 500 1.2 8V Lounge SS ’08
20. Ford GT ‘06
21. Ford Mustang Boss 429 ’69
22. Ford Mustang Mach 1 ‘71
23. Honda Beat ‘91
24. Honda Civic Type R (EK) ’98
25. Honda Fit Hybrid ‘14
26. Honda Integra Type R (DC2) ‘98
27. Honda NSX Type R ‘92
28. Honda S2000 ’99
29. Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640 ’09
30. Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione ’91
31. Maserati GranTurismo S ‘08
32. Mazda Eunos Roadster (NA Special Package) ‘89
33. Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) ‘90
34. Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) ‘02
35. McLaren MP4-12C ‘10
36. Mercedes Benz SLS AMG ‘10
37. Mini Cooper S ‘05
38. Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo ’91
39. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR ‘96
40. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR ’98
41. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. Edition Special Color Package ’99
42. Nissan 180SX Type X ’96
43. Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) ’08
44. Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX TwinTurbo 2seater (Z32) ‘89
45. Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) ‘07
46. Nissan Silvia K’s Dia Selection (S13) ’90
47. Nissan Silvia Q’s (S13) ’88
48. Nissan Silvia spec-R AERO (S15) ’02
49. Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 V-spec II ’94
50. Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 V-spec ’97
51. Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 V-spec II Nür ’02
52. Nissan Skyline Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) ’70
53. Porsche 911 Carrera RS (964) ’91
54. Porsche 911 Carrera RS (993) ’96
55. Porsche 911 Carrera RS Clubsport (993) ’95
56. Porsche 911 GT3 (996) ‘01
57. Porsche 911 GT3 (997) ‘09
58. Porsche 911 Turbo (930) ’81
59. Renault Sport Clio V6 24V ’00
60. Subaru Impreza Coupe 22B-STi Version ‘98
61. Subaru Impreza Coupe WRX Type R STI Version VI ’99
62. Suzuki Swift Sport '07
63. Toyota 86 GT “Limited” ’16
64. Toyota Aqua S ’11
65. Toyota Corolla Levin GT-Apex (AE86) ’83
66. Toyota MR2 GT-S ‘97
67. Toyota Sports 800 ’65
68. Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (AE86) ‘83
69. Toyota Supra 3.0GT Turbo A ‘88
70. Toyota Supra RZ ‘97
71. TVR Tuscan Speed 6 ‘00
72. Volkswagen Golf I GTI ’83
73. Volkswagen Scirocco R ’10

Brighton Antiques:

1. Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52
2. Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B Lungo Berlinetta ’37
3. Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI ’93
4. Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata da Zagato CN.AR750106 '65
5. Alpine A110 1600S ‘72
6. Alpine A220 ’68
7. Aston Martin DB3S CN.1 ’53
8. Aston Martin DB5 Vantage ’64
9. Aston Martin DBR9 GT1 ’10
10. Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak ‘87
11. BMW 3.0 CSL ’71
12. BMW 3.0 CSL (BMW Motorsport) ’75
13. BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car ’97
14. Chaparral 2J ’70
15. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible (C3) ‘69
16. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Racer Concept ’59
17. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Sport Coupe (C2) '63
18. DeTomaso Mangusta ’69
19. DeTomaso Pantera ‘71
20. Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto CN.2521 ‘61
21. Ferrari 250 GTO CN.3729GT ‘62
22. Ferrari 330 P4 ‘67
23. Ferrari 365 GTB/4 ’71
24. Ferrari 512 BB ‘76
25. Ferrari Dino 246 GT ‘71
26. Ferrari F40 ‘92
27. Ferrari F50 ‘95
28. Ferrari GTO ‘84
29. Fiat 500 F ‘68
30. Ford GT40 Mark I ‘66
31. Ford Mark IV Race Car ‘67
32. Ferrari Enzo Ferrari ‘02
33. Honda EPSON NSX ‘08
34. Honda S800 ’66
35. Jaguar D-Type ’54
36. Jaguar E-type Coupe ‘61
37. Jaguar XJ13 ‘66
38. Jaguar XJR-9 ‘88
39. Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary ‘88
40. Lamborghini Countach LP400 ‘74
41. Lamborghini Diablo GT ‘00
42. Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 ‘67
43. Lancia Stratos ‘73
44. Lexus PETRONAS TOM’S SC430 ‘08
45. Mazda 787B ‘91
46. Mazda RX500 ‘70
47. McLaren F1 ‘94
48. McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (Kokusai Kaihatsu UK Racing) ‘95
49. Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 6.8 AMG ’71
50. Mercedes Benz 300 SL (W194) CN.194 ’52
51. Mercedes Benz 300 SL Coupe ’54
52. Mercedes Benz AMG CLK LM (AMG-Mercedes) ’98
53. Mercedes Benz S Barker Tourer ’29
54. Mercedes Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 ‘89
55. Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren ‘09
56. Mini Cooper S ‘65
57. Nissan PENNZOIL NISMO GT-R ’99
58. Nissan R92CP ’92
59. Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R ‘08
60. Pagani Zonda R ‘09
61. Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Team Peugeot Total ‘10
62. Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster ’60
63. Pontiac Firebird Trans Am ‘78
64. Porsche 356 A 1500 Carrera GS ’56
65. Porsche 356 A 1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster ’56
66. Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion ’97
67. Porsche 917K ’70
68. Porsche 962 C ’88
69. Porsche Carrera GT ’04
70. Porsche Spyder type 550/1500RS ’55
71. Renault R8 Gordini ‘66
72. RUF CTR3 ’07
73. Shelby Cobra 427 ‘66
74. Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe ‘64
75. Shelby GT350 ‘65
76. Toyota 2000GT ‘67
77. Toyota Castrol TOM’S SUPRA ’97
78. Volkswagen 1200 ‘66
79. Volkswagen Sambabus Typ 2 ‘62
80. Willys MB Jeep ’45

This is all based on my assumptions as to which dealership certain cars will fall under (taking into consideration certain factors such as the year model, rarity, tuned cars with no year models, and so on).

So this means we need at least 63 modern cars from at least 2011 or newer to expand on the list. If anything, the final car list could well be at over 450 to 480 cars.

The game currently has 55 manufacturers (even counting the GT Awards brand for SEMA award winners), so at least five more manufacturers must be present in the game (hoping it's Jeep, Koenigsegg, Lotus, Radical and Zenvo, as they are strong candidates, and the Jeep we have is a Willys, and it will make sense to add actual cars from the Jeep brand). The Brand Central section mentioned that there will be at least 60 brands where you can buy cars from, so that does make sense after all.

 

[Magog]

Yeah, I meant the PS5 loading times. How quick are they? Less than 3 seconds? Would be great.

Kaz had something to say about that as well. Basically instant. As long as it takes to download the decals I would think.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I would be very pleased if the car list far exceeds 420...

 

[warp9engage]

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It makes sense that you'd be able to find most, if not all cars, that you can buy in Brand Central, in the Used Car Dealer. After all, in the real world, which GT likes to emulate with its dealers, you could find a used car that that's just a few months old or less. The person just needed to get rid of their car quickly and not lose too much money. So you'll likely have cars that are too old to be sold at dealerships, that you'd only find in used car lots, and current cars, with some kms on them, for a lower price. Brighton Antiques will probably be for classic cars and, possibly, more modern classics in mint condition. That's the explanation I have for the inconsistencies.

 

[tankuroded]

I hope the two Ferraris are from the years 2012 and 2020, and are called like this:

Ferrari F8 Tributo '20
Ferrari F12berlinetta '12

Considering a certain IP hopper on that wiki where you posted the car's list from to this forum's master car list, I happened to know who is this new user...

 

[luvsic engine]

Looks like we don't have a chance to have silverstone in the launch version according to the booklet, which includes the same capture of European track layouts that had been shown before.

 

[Imari]

If that’s drag racing according to PD they could as well leave it out altogether in my opinion.

This is more along the lines of what I’m talking about:

Lol, as if it's not the same thing with faster cars and electronic timing.

Don't worry, I'm sure in GT7 you'll be able to race with a big stwong car so that everyone can see how vewwy masculine you are. And the rest of us can have fun drag racing **** boxes against each other. Just because the videos I happened to post were of the Best Motoring variety of casual drag racing (you know, the sort of programs that inspired Gran Turismo in the first place) doesn't mean that that Polyphony will stop you from building a 1000hp Skyline if that's what makes you happy. But it doesn't stop being drag racing just because you're on street legal tyres and you can't do a 12 second run.

If you'd have the feature taken out of GT7 just because it will be possible to use it with "slow" cars like the ones I posted (the first video was stock R35s, hardly slow) then that just seems like gatekeeping.

 

[matrix_gt1]

Lol, as if it's not the same thing with faster cars and electronic timing.

Don't worry, I'm sure in GT7 you'll be able to race with a big stwong car so that everyone can see how vewwy masculine you are. And the rest of us can have fun drag racing **** boxes against each other. Just because the videos I happened to post were of the Best Motoring variety of casual drag racing (you know, the sort of programs that inspired Gran Turismo in the first place) doesn't mean that that Polyphony will stop you from building a 1000hp Skyline if that's what makes you happy. But it doesn't stop being drag racing just because you're on street legal tyres and you can't do a 12 second run.

If you'd have the feature taken out of GT7 just because it will be possible to use it with "slow" cars like the ones I posted (the first video was stock R35s, hardly slow) then that just seems like gatekeeping.

You alright dude? Kinda insulting the guy for no reason.

 

[Imari]

You alright dude? Kinda insulting the guy for no reason.

There's a point at which I no longer feel the need to withhold my snark from someone who questions the translation of "0-4 Battle", then moans that the examples posted aren't "real drag racing" because it's not built cars on drag slicks running sub-10s and it should just be removed from the game.

It's Gran Turismo, racing terrible cars against each other is kind of half the point of the game. Don't race it if you don't want to, but saying that drag racing shouldn't be in the game if it's going to allow normal road cars to face off? Nah, that deserves some mockery.

 

[matrix_gt1]

There's a point at which I no longer feel the need to withhold my snark from someone who questions the translation of "0-4 Battle", then moans that the examples posted aren't "real drag racing" because it's not built cars on drag slicks running sub-10s and it should just be removed from the game.

It's Gran Turismo, racing terrible cars against each other is kind of half the point of the game. Don't race it if you don't want to, but saying that drag racing shouldn't be in the game if it's going to allow normal road cars to face off? Nah, that deserves some mockery.

Well that’s unfortunate As he clearly stated it was his opinion. The thing is mate, I actually agree with you and not Strittan. But we all enjoy GT for different reasons. Some people loved B spec.. but I found I relied on it to much to get easy money so I disagree. This guy obviously doesn’t enjoy the aspect of GT that you do. it doesn’t mean he deserves mockery.

 

[Imari]

Well that’s unfortunate As he clearly stated it was his opinion. The thing is mate, I actually agree with you and not Strittan. But we all enjoy GT for different reasons. Some people loved B spec.. but I found I relied on it to much to get easy money so I disagree. This guy obviously doesn’t enjoy the aspect of GT that you do. it doesn’t mean he deserves mockery.

It's not about who likes what. He's welcome not to like drag racing anything that isn't a prepped drag car, and he's welcome to the opinion that Polyphony shouldn't put drag racing in GT7.

What gets mockery is saying "If Polyphony considers that drag racing..." to this:



That's not personal preference, regardless of whether you tack "in my opinion" to the end of it or not. That's just gatekeeping. Taking some cars onto a straight piece of track and having a standing start dash to 400m is a drag race whether he likes it or not. Add into it the fact that it's not even people drag racing VW vans or something equally odd that might legitimately raise some eyebrows. It's R35s. A $100,000+ sports car. The real car comes stock with launch control for exactly this sort of situation.

The idea that anyone, anywhere shouldn't consider that drag racing is daft. Daft enough that I think it's worth making it very clear that the sort of car that you bring isn't what makes it drag racing.

 

[matrix_gt1]

It's not about who likes what. He's welcome not to like drag racing anything that isn't a prepped drag car, and he's welcome to the opinion that Polyphony shouldn't put drag racing in GT7.

What gets mockery is saying "If Polyphony considers that drag racing..." to this:



That's not personal preference, regardless of whether you tack "in my opinion" to the end of it or not. That's just gatekeeping. Taking some cars onto a straight piece of track and having a standing start dash to 400m is a drag race whether he likes it or not. Add into it the fact that it's not even people drag racing VW vans or something equally odd that might legitimately raise some eyebrows. It's R35s. A $100,000+ sports car. The real car comes stock with launch control for exactly this sort of situation.

The idea that anyone, anywhere shouldn't consider that drag racing is daft. Daft enough that I think it's worth making it very clear that the sort of car that you bring isn't what makes it drag racing.

We will probably just keep going back and forth so i’l just say this. Yes I don’t agree with his opinion. and Perhaps once seeing these comments he will change His opinion. But probably best to avoid attacking him personally. his Opinion can be daft, but my gosh, we have no idea if HE is.
anyway just an idea man. Peace

 

[Dave A]

I don't think @Imari ist attacking him personally, he's correcting him. There's a big difference between correcting a person who is wrong (i.e. ignoring the definition of drag racing ("a race between two cars over a short distance, usually a quarter of a mile, as a test of acceleration.)) and attacking a person.

 

[Strittan]

Lol, as if it's not the same thing with faster cars and electronic timing.

Don't worry, I'm sure in GT7 you'll be able to race with a big stwong car so that everyone can see how vewwy masculine you are. And the rest of us can have fun drag racing **** boxes against each other. Just because the videos I happened to post were of the Best Motoring variety of casual drag racing (you know, the sort of programs that inspired Gran Turismo in the first place) doesn't mean that that Polyphony will stop you from building a 1000hp Skyline if that's what makes you happy. But it doesn't stop being drag racing just because you're on street legal tyres and you can't do a 12 second run.

If you'd have the feature taken out of GT7 just because it will be possible to use it with "slow" cars like the ones I posted (the first video was stock R35s, hardly slow) then that just seems like gatekeeping.

I can’t have an opinion? Have I offended you?

To clarify, how slow or fast a car is is not important. As a matter of fact, my favorite form of drag racing is bracket racing. If drag racing is ever gonna be in Gran Turismo, bracket racing is the way to go I think, but that means a proper drag strip with a realistic timing system is necessary, so I don’t believe it’s ever gonna happen. I love Gran Turismo for a ton of other reasons though, so it’s no big deal at all.

I don't think @Imari ist attacking him personally, he's correcting him. There's a big difference between correcting a person who is wrong (i.e. ignoring the definition of drag racing ("a race between two cars over a short distance, usually a quarter of a mile, as a test of acceleration.)) and attacking a person.

Correcting me? What did I get wrong? Anyway, your definition is not quite accurate.

“Drag racing is a type of motor racing in which automobiles or motorcycles (usually specially prepared for the purpose) compete, usually two at a time, to be first to cross a set finish line.”