Gran Turismo 7 Custom Race thread

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I might need to experiment with BoP off and just manually tune all cars to BoP, thought it shouldn't really make a difference. Except for BoP I have the same setting as in your screenshots.
 
Nuschel01
I might need to experiment with BoP off and just manually tune all cars to BoP, thought it shouldn't really make a difference. Except for BoP I have the same setting as in your screenshots.
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Not a bad idea but sounds like a lot of work. Let me know your results! I swear that the AI's keep pace with me somehow, it seems hen I run fast laps, so do they, when I run slow laps, so do they.. Not sure if that's just my mind playing tricks or not. I haven't taken the time to study the AI lap times versus mine.
 
maplejuana
Can you link me to whatever you use to upgrade the AI? I haven't fully read through the 9 pages of text and am checking this forum out for the first time within the last 30 minutes.
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I don’t know how to link you to my Post but it should be around Page 6 or 7 I guess.
Use the Settings I posted in my Pictures AND THAN, experiment with YOUR Car PP to somewhat match your Pace to the ones your opponents are running.
You can set it up VERY PRECISELY to your likings and make the Race against the AI perfect.
Any Car Class any Track, any Circumstances.
It’s been repeatedly proven across all different Tracks and Car Classes.
 
PirovacBoy
It still baffles me why some of you good Guys like you @Nuschel01 around here simply refuse to listen.
A few Weeks ago I posted and precisely explained HOW to make the AI a true and real challenging Experience.
Some have listened and reported back and confirmed my Observations.
@Nuschel01 and @A_Higher_Place
I can guarantee both of you and prove it if the Game would just allow me to upload my Replays.
With the Settings I posted the Racing becomes real.
Multiclass Racing, GT4 or GT3 especially Road Cars and Super Cars Racing become such a joy that it’s beyond me how some People STILL refuse to listen and claim that Racing the AI is Trash.
It’s NOT.
Never ever.
I‘m a decent Driver not the quickest but reasonably fast.
I‘m probably amongst the most fair trustworthy and clean Drivers in GT and I assure you Guys that until this Point, I have already captured and saved roundabout 40 Race Replays racing against the AI.
All 30 Minutes Endurance Races.
All different Car Types, Classes and at almost EVERY Track in this Game.

NOT ONCE, not a single one will you see the AI wrecking, pushing, punting, I assure you you will even have to look for a SINGLE CONTACT the AI or me have made.
All of the Races are clean as a Whistle.

I GUARANTEE you if I’d swap the Driver Names with Real World Online IDs of top tier Players you mostly couldn’t tell if it’s AI or not.
Besides a few unnecessary and odd Braking Spot Habits the AI uses, which by the way are far far less than in regular Single Player Mode it looks damn real.

And don’t get me wrong I believe you what you tell about your Experiences racing the AI.
BUT!!! it’s definitely all and ONLY down to your Settings.

Have you Guys even tried my Settings?!

I posted them in the hope to share and provide some valuable and proven information, to make the Game enjoyable for ALL of us.
For us who enjoy the Single Player Side of GT. For the Nostalgia.
I could have kept them for myself. But why.

I read so much nonsense about GT AI even from Players I respect a lot and I don’t bash them for claiming false Information.
They unfortunately haven’t tried or simply refuse to test for themselves what I told.

It’s incomprehensible.

The AI in GT7, once the Race Setup is being set up correctly and exactly to match YOUR PACE, it becomes a REAL AND TRUE Challenge.
With phenomenal Results of AI Behavior.

It’s IMPOSSIBLE that any average Joe like me will still be able to fly through the Field or win a Race if starting last.
If you aim for Contact Free and realistic Driving on Track it’s not possible.
Like in a real Race or online Race you just can’t win starting last in a 20 Car Field and expect to Win when everyone around you is running at approximately the same Pace you are capable of.
It DEFINITELY is only down to the Settings.

I mean, it’s up to you but unfortunately you and same as many others just simply refuse to listen for whatever unknown Reason 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Please share your settings.
 
PirovacBoy
I don’t know how to link you to my Post but it should be around Page 6 or 7 I guess.
Use the Settings I posted in my Pictures AND THAN, experiment with YOUR Car PP to somewhat match your Pace to the ones your opponents are running.
You can set it up VERY PRECISELY to your likings and make the Race against the AI perfect.
Any Car Class any Track, any Circumstances.
It’s been repeatedly proven across all different Tracks and Car Classes.
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TY! I will mess with this.
 
Nuschel01
I might need to experiment with BoP off and just manually tune all cars to BoP, thought it shouldn't really make a difference. Except for BoP I have the same setting as in your screenshots.
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And THATS exactly 1 of the Mayor Points.
DONT use BOP.
I noticed that and posted in my Pictures as soon as you apply BoP it all becomes a Mess.
Most important Settings are:
1. No BoP
2. Boost Weak!!!
3. Realistic Slipstream
4. Activate Side Contact Penalties( very Important) for clean Behavior

Than manually adjust your opponents.
Do it before you start to set up a Custom Race.
Go into your Garage.
Pick the Cars you want to use as your Opponents.
Upgrade or downgrade their PP and make THEIR PP all around maximal 5-15PP different amongst them.
Actually experiment a bit. You can make some Cars a bit faster and some a bit slower. Depending on the Weight and HP and most importantly the Drivetrain you should be able to balance the Cars to your Personal Likings.

Now comes 1 VERY important thing.

Upgrade your opponents Brakes !!!

Upgrade your Opponents Engines and buy them Sport Clutches!!!

Buy them Sport Brakes and Sport Brake Pads for Road Cars. Not Race Brakes and Pads.
That way the AI will brake way later than usual and match our Human Brake Spots.

But YOU will ONLY USE the Regular Production Brakes. Don’t use upgraded Brakes.
And then like I said it’s only play around with your PP in comparison to the one you have chooses for the AI.

The Results will be the following.
The AI brakes super duper late it will be hard to outbreak them cleanly.
They will full Throttle in the straights and you DEFINITELY won’t be able to just fly by.
You will really have to claw down the Tenths Lap after Lap and then eventually make a clean contact free pass.

The activated Side Contact Penalties will assure you that the AI will try to do their absolute best to NOT hit you and will always obey the General Racing Rules and Lines.
Just trust me Nuschel.
And now go, have fun 😁
 
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A_Higher_Place
Please share your settings.
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You were the one asking me for the Settings a few Weeks ago.
I quoted you and then posted them and NEVER heard back from you.
And now you ask me again to share them 😅
Are you trolling me 😂
Legend.
It should be around Page 6 or 7 😉
 
PirovacBoy
The activated Side Contact Penalties will assure you that the AI will try to do their absolute best to NOT hit you and will always obey the General Racing Rules and Lines.
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I never saw the AI get any penalties tho :lol:
I'll play around with it again tonight or tomorrow.
 
Nuschel01
I never saw the AI get any penalties tho :lol:
I'll play around with it again tonight or tomorrow.
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It’s because they most probably race so clean and don’t wreck themselves 😬
Me too have never seen any AI Penalties but that might be due to the Fact that all of my Races I do without HUD 😅
 
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maplejuana
Are you using boost for the opponents to keep up with you? or for you to keep up w/ the opponents? I'm still experimenting w/ racing the AI on different lengths and learning their fuel strategy but they seem to only use the Max Fuel Map and I crush them on any race that involves more than one pit stop.
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Well I usually just do Gr3/Gr.4 multi-class, and are usually using Gr.3 cars going thru Gr.4 cars. It is pretty fun and with weather and tire/fuel set to x4/x5 for a 445-50 minute race
 
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PirovacBoy
You were the one asking me for the Settings a few Weeks ago.
I quoted you and then posted them and NEVER heard back from you.
And now you ask me again to share them 😅
Are you trolling me 😂
Legend.
It should be around Page 6 or 7 😉
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Sorry, yes I remember. I tried your settings and still find the AI slow in many areas. By the end of the race I am well ahead! This includes using a car of lower PP and no fuel or tire wear to limit thir effects on AI.
 
maplejuana
Are you using boost for the opponents to keep up with you? or for you to keep up w/ the opponents? I'm still experimenting w/ racing the AI on different lengths and learning their fuel strategy but they seem to only use the Max Fuel Map and I crush them on any race that involves more than one pit stop.
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I recently been using Boost Weak. The AI artificially(no pun intended) artificially make the the racing interesting.
This is 10 laps. The Six E30 EVOs are at a higher PP due to their DTM spec as per Assetto Corsa 1. The normal M3 s are at Group A spec(again, as per AC1 set up). I detune the Alfas to 309BHP.


I usually keep my races short, to do Multiple races and watch my replays, in a short time. However, I did a rare longer 40 minute race at Spa 24H layout. 24x. Boost Weak, Random weather, 1x tyre/fuel(exactly for the concern We all have about AI burning through fuel). I started P18 and finished P11, a few seconds from P10.
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I had multiple laps to catch up and then long times to even pass cars. The obvious AI slow points are Eau Rouge and Blanchimont. The AI are pretty good around the whole circuit. I did try to be cheeky and slow up during the night and had to work again to pass that car.

The main times Boost Off worked, are with my N2 AE86s. I’m going to try Boost Weak(but been having too much fun with the E30s and 964s).

I believe, with my recent races, Boost Weak is the best option for more enjoyable racing against the AI. It’s weird To say it’s a faux AI about the bad normal AI, but that’s what it is. At least, until we see standard AI programming improve.
 
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A_Higher_Place
Sorry, yes I remember. I tried your settings and still find the AI slow in many areas. By the end of the race I am well ahead! This includes using a car of lower PP and no fuel or tire wear to limit thir effects on AI.
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No worries Man, all good.
Did you apply exactly the same Settings and Values I posted though?!
Because I can’t comprehend how you manage to finish well ahead by the end of the Race then.
Did you start last?!
How long was the Race?
I want and I do believe you, but in that Case you must have had some Settings off from my Mentioned ones.
I mean I‘m usually quite fast and if I can’t Win these Races and mostly manage to finish between 5th - 9th and did my best to keep up with the AI while ALWAYS Contact Free, then you either are a way better and faster Driver than me or like I said your Settings didn’t Match my aforementioned ones.
Give them a go again and apply all the Steps I just recently mentioned.
And than report back.
I can’t believe that you find the AI slow.
My Lap Times compared to me he AI are mostly separated by around 0.5 to 1 Seconds and that throughout the whole Race.
I never noticed any Rubberbanding or artificial Boosts.
 
PirovacBoy
No worries Man, all good.
Did you apply exactly the same Settings and Values I posted though?!
Because I can’t comprehend how you manage to finish well ahead by the end of the Race then.
Did you start last?!
How long was the Race?
I want and I do believe you, but in that Case you must have had some Settings off from my Mentioned ones.
I mean I‘m usually quite fast and if I can’t Win these Races and mostly manage to finish between 5th - 9th and did my best to keep up with the AI while ALWAYS Contact Free, then you either are a way better and faster Driver than me or like I said your Settings didn’t Match my aforementioned ones.
Give them a go again and apply all the Steps I just recently mentioned.
And than report back.
I can’t believe that you find the AI slow.
My Lap Times compared to me he AI are mostly separated by around 0.5 to 1 Seconds and that throughout the whole Race.
I never noticed any Rubberbanding or artificial Boosts.
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Yes, they were your settings. My race was 15 laps long on Dragon Trail Raceway (not seaside) with no tire wear nor fuel usage.
 
A_Higher_Place
Yes, they were your settings. My race was 15 laps long on Dragon Trail Raceway (not seaside) with no tire wear nor fuel usage.
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That’s very interesting, we should race together to see how much faster you are compared to me.
You must have done something wrong with the Settings though compared to the ones I posted, especially in a 15 Lap race.

You started last and finished way ahead of the others, right?!
How about your Lap times, how much quicker have you been compared to the AI?!
Did you made all of your passes without Contact?!
I somehow can’t believe that it’s so different compared to what I experience every race.
It’s absolutely impossible for me, and I’m usually 1-2 Seconds at maximum slower than the fastest Guys in this Game.
I‘m baffled.
I‘ll send you a Friend request if you’d be so kind and give me your PSN ID.
Or simply send me a request my ID is the same as here.
I‘m very curious to find out how you did it 😁
You must be a true Alien Driver, Respect 🫡
 
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Ok so I started messing with this last night. I'm preparing to set up my own 50's Race Car Championship, using the following cars:

  • Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Racer Concept '59
  • Ferrari 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe '54
  • Aston Martin DB3S '53
  • Porsche Spyder type 550/1500RS '55
  • Jaguar D-type '54

I put 3 of each car so a grid of 15 cars. Might up it to 4 of each, to fill out a 20 car grid, or maybe try to squeeze one more car type in for a total of 18 cars. We shall see!

As I really don't want to race these cars on slicks, I made setup sheets for them all using their default tires, at 510PP +/-. The Ferrari then is on SH tires, Aston and Jag on CM and the Porsche and Chevy on CS.

Did a 10 lapper on Goodwood as my first test race. Boost on "Weak" as advised here, fuel/tire wear both at 1x, real slipstream. I started last, driving one of the three Ferraris, which benefitted in the corners but lacked juice on the straights. The Aston and Jag, being on CM tires, are the opposite, a bit of a rocket in a straight line, but suffer through the corners. Chevy and Porsche are a bit of a middle ground.

Race was really fun and hard fought. A bit of a sloppy driving by me, but finished P8. The AI cars did spread well, as in, there didn't seem to be a overwhelming advantage by any one car.

So my plan is to set up a small championship, 3-4 races, using real 50's race car driver names, with a driver and Manufacturer point standings. Now I just really need PD to allow us to save a grid so I won't have to input the driver names each time :D. A custom championship feature ala Automobilista 2 would be my dream feature for the game.

Despite it's shortcomings, I foresee having alot of fun messing with the Custom Races :D
 
Guffaluff
So my plan is to set up a small championship, 3-4 races, using real 50's race car driver names, with a driver and Manufacturer point standings.
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I could provide a points table template that currently allows 20 cars and 10 teams with two drivers each and a customizable points table :D
 
Guffaluff
Already have a base setup, but would be cool to see though! 👀
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It's based on a sheet I made for an online racing season, so points for the pole are a bit redundand in a field you set up yourself :D

Google Docs

Feel free to copy it and play with it.

On the final page the ways of getting bonus points can be changed to whatever and it'll change them in the points sheet to. Basically all that needs to be done is put in 20 names (and cars), if needed, assign them to teams and then after a race put an "X" into the bonus point columns and the finishing position of each driver in the race result column. The rest is done automatically, the "Grid" column is set up to provide a bit of a closer ranking and sorts the driver according to their points in this order: 20-19-...-11-1-2-...-9-10
 
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I notice the ai is good at drifting like we try to be. Check out this custom race (1 lap video), the ai slide that e type like crazy, i am in the d type btw. Great in car views at the end of the first lap.

 
Pirovacboy: to upload videos - record your race replay and go to the media gallery (i think thats the name on the ps5). Then hit the share button and choose youtube. Then copy the youtube link and paste here. Its easy once you know how. Xbox should be similar id guess.
 
Hey all, was looking creating a career using custom races, is boost weak better than boost strong for close racing? Does strong keep the pack together too much, not allowing for a realistic spread of the field?
 
Added Superchargers to all my Touting Car Masters replicas. Only way to get them up to the real 650-700BHP of the real cars.

Initial test at The Glen for PP adjustments.


Hard work to keep up with the AI.



Did a Boost Weak run at Bathurst and the AI tap the brakes at Sulman. At least it’s not the hard braking when Boost is off.
At Daytona, too easy to pass cars.
 
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ixlr8nz
Pirovacboy: to upload videos - record your race replay and go to the media gallery (i think thats the name on the ps5). Then hit the share button and choose youtube. Then copy the youtube link and paste here. Its easy once you know how. Xbox should be similar id guess.
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Thank you very much Good Sir.
I didn’t even knew it was possible this way.
That’s awesome.
So actually I activate the Replay from my Library and press the Share Button, right?!
Then I select capture or whatever it’s called and it uploads to my YouTube Channel?!
Am i Right.
I never did that so absolutely new to this stuff.
If that’s really possible it would be phenomenal.
I could finally show you Guys that everything I told you about my Experience is 100%True.
I assume that will be the final Nail in the Coffin for EVERYONE still claiming that the AI is Trash or slow or not competitive, or maybe think that I’m just trash and slow and therefore don’t want me to believe what I say.
Wow, awesome.
Tomorrow when I come home from Work I will start uploading Video by Video.
So far I have 42 Replays saved, each one about 30Minutes long at approximately 120MB Size.
The AI is even so smart especially on the Nordschleife Replay I did with GT4 Cars, when I start putting extreme Pressure on them and follow them very close it seems like they give up in defending and they turn on their Indicator Lights to signal me that they gonna let me pass what they then do. They slow down at certain Places with their Indicators active and I can cleanly overtake them.
As soon as I’ve passed them they get up to normal Pace and start racing me again.
I don’t know if that specific Behavior has already been noticed or mentioned by others around here but the first time i noticed it I was blown away by the amount of realistic Behavior of the AI.
 
Nuschel01
The AI putting the indicator on on the Nordschleife is the dumbest thing ever :dunce:
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What you mean with dumbest thing ever.
Actually it’s pretty smart to signalize me that they are going to let me overtake.
To me that’s something Pretty smart.
I do the same when racing online and I have a faster Car behind me to show them I’m going to let them pass me safely.
It definitely adds to the immersion so I don’t really get what you mean by saying dumbest thing ever 🤔
 

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