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Gran Turismo 7 Custom Race thread
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- llClaude_Speedll
- BlazingSol05
Daytona International Raceway Tri-Oval
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"A white-knuckle slipstream battle from start to finish in the fastest road cars"
Laps - 50
PP - 700
Car Type - Road Car, Concept Car, Vision Gran Turismo, Electric Car, Hybrid Car, Professionally Tuned
Tires - (RH)
Tire Wear - Off
Fuel Consumption - Off
Nitrous/Overtake - Prohibited
- 68
- Leicester
- ReportMyNameow
Hi all, been keeping tabs on this thread for a while and just wanted some baseline information.
I have compiled my list of Muscle cars and wanted to know if there are any other suggestions or obvious cars I have missed.
From what I have seen settings wise:
Boost: weak
Tyres: Racing Hard
Counter steering assistance: enabled
Make ——————— HP ——-Weight——
Dodge Charger R/T- 425 1805kg
Dodge Challenger - 425 1724kg
Dodge Superbee - 335 1533kg SC-450
Corvette Stingray C3 - 300 1236kg SC-464
Corvette C2 63 - 359 1360kg SC-552
Camaro SS - 289 1415kg SC-455
Chevelle - 449 1762kg
Mustang Boss - 374 1614kg
Mustang Mach 1 - 302 1615kg
Shelby Mustang 350 - ??
Plymouth superbird - 425 1755kg
Tomaso Pantera - 325 1420kg nA tune
Mangusta - 300 1185kg nA tune
Firebird Trans-am - 219 1649kg SC-328
Shelby Cobra 427 -
Shelby Cobra Daytona ‘64
Cheverolet Corvette C1 '58
CHC Chevy Nova ‘67
Pontiac GTO ‘The Judge’ ‘69
I assume that to match the HP it would be ideal having Superchargers on the lowest HP cars.
Any help is much appreciated as I am in no rush to complete it, just taking my time to balance the pack.
I have compiled my list of Muscle cars and wanted to know if there are any other suggestions or obvious cars I have missed.
From what I have seen settings wise:
Boost: weak
Tyres: Racing Hard
Counter steering assistance: enabled
Make ——————— HP ——-Weight——
Dodge Charger R/T- 425 1805kg
Dodge Challenger - 425 1724kg
Dodge Superbee - 335 1533kg SC-450
Corvette Stingray C3 - 300 1236kg SC-464
Corvette C2 63 - 359 1360kg SC-552
Camaro SS - 289 1415kg SC-455
Chevelle - 449 1762kg
Mustang Boss - 374 1614kg
Mustang Mach 1 - 302 1615kg
Shelby Mustang 350 - ??
Plymouth superbird - 425 1755kg
Tomaso Pantera - 325 1420kg nA tune
Mangusta - 300 1185kg nA tune
Firebird Trans-am - 219 1649kg SC-328
Shelby Cobra 427 -
Shelby Cobra Daytona ‘64
Cheverolet Corvette C1 '58
CHC Chevy Nova ‘67
Pontiac GTO ‘The Judge’ ‘69
I assume that to match the HP it would be ideal having Superchargers on the lowest HP cars.
Any help is much appreciated as I am in no rush to complete it, just taking my time to balance the pack.
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- pritchyTim
Made this a long time ago, so physics updates may have thrown them out of balance, but I found this to be a really fun, challenging grid!
Muscle Car Grid Spreadsheet
I used them mostly stock, so it may not be very useful if you’re running racing tires and/or superchargers!
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- ReportMyNameow
This is brilliant! More info than I thought I would get back, so it’s very helpful indeed. I’ll take some time looking it over in detail and adapt to fit in more cars. Thanks again
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I agree with this wholeheartedly, even expanding the scope outside of classic Japanese cars. GT7 does a good enough job of hitting on the "highlights" more often then not, but as of now misses many of the more "niche" options and field filling cars. And then there are such underrepresented "classes" as the aforementioned 70's Japanese classics, 80's/90's Non-corvette/Viper American cars, 90's Saloons(BTCC style) and Kei-class vehicles.
Yes many of these vehicles may have seemed a bit "irrelevent" in the past games, but custom race and the improved tuning/livery editor systems do so much to give purpose to even the mildest vehicles(only limited by ones imagination and of course, your in-game bank account)
Hopefully, if the trend of every even numbered GT heavily expanding the car selection of the previous title holds up(GT2 to GT1, GT4 to GT3, GT6 to GT5) GT8 should fill those holes. And we still have atleast a year or two atleast of GT7 updates to look forward too as well, so there is still hope.
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- SpacedustDaddy
The Civic EF(and EG) and 205 have certainly helped with expanding that in between mix of cars from the 1980s. I think the E36 is the only representative of the 1990s. The R32s, Lancer Evos and WRX are there, but as you pointed out, aren’t global representations of the era. Maybe PD will give us a taste before the next game.
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I hope so too. Hopefully with visual fidelity hitting the point of diminishing returns, and the focus seemingly being on 4k textures and raytraced lighting instead of outright model fidelity means PD won't have to totally start from the ground up the car list again, and the current models are future proofed to last for more than 2 games. Because it would suck if for "GT9" we were back to 100-200-something cars and going through the whole process again.
To me, with the custom race feature being as robust as it is (with potential for even more features in the future if PD so chooses) more car variety will only further open up the possibilities to use with it, and more options is never a bad thing. I can only imagine what I'd be able to do with GT2 or GT4's car lists with what current GT provides, and that's not even counting the millions of other vehicles over motoring history past and present that could come to the game as well.
But as always, we'll just have to wait and see....
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- llClaude_Speedll
- BlazingSol05
From a 35 lap race at High Speed Ring Reverse with one of my custom Clubman Cup+ 700 grids.
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- BlazingSol05
Yesterday I completed a custom race Nurburgring 4 Hour Endurance and livestreamed the entire replay. Here's the link. Enjoy!
All cars are tuned to 700PP on RH tires. Fuel 1x and Tire 1x.
All cars are tuned to 700PP on RH tires. Fuel 1x and Tire 1x.
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- TCR_JimyBee
I have two basic questions I would like answers for:
A) when setting up a race and you choose RANDOM opponents, what is the criteria that GT7 chooses those opponents? Example I just did a 2 lap race with the 1956 Maserati 170hp and the lead opponent was the Subaru Drift BRZ 1069hp. How is this an equal opponent ?
B) when I have BOOST off I have "rubberbanding" opponents, when I have BOOST on in any form I still have "rubberbanding" opponents. How can I stop the rubberbanding?
A) when setting up a race and you choose RANDOM opponents, what is the criteria that GT7 chooses those opponents? Example I just did a 2 lap race with the 1956 Maserati 170hp and the lead opponent was the Subaru Drift BRZ 1069hp. How is this an equal opponent ?
B) when I have BOOST off I have "rubberbanding" opponents, when I have BOOST on in any form I still have "rubberbanding" opponents. How can I stop the rubberbanding?
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- SpacedustDaddy
Didn’t want to do it, but caved in getting a road car GT4 grid together to welcome the newer Vantage. Adding the Nissan still keeps it eleven brands total that currently race in GT4.
Using V8 swapped TVRs in lieu of Ginetta. We seriously need Sony to open their wallet and grab Lotus.
Using V8 swapped TVRs in lieu of Ginetta. We seriously need Sony to open their wallet and grab Lotus.
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- SpacedustDaddy
A bit odd. No need to widebody the car for the GT4 build. I guess many people haven’t watched much GT4 racing. Well, I’m just using one livery for my grid as there are only one car in the GT4 Australia and usually only one in GT4 European Series.
If I want another livery I’ll just boot up Assetto Corsa Competizione and pick one.
Initial test. All cars are set at 120/240 downforce. Added the old GranTurismo GT4 as a baseline. Might make an old original GT4 Belgium Series where GT4 began.
Afterwards, did a bit of detuning for the R8 and AMG. The Supra and Z transmissions have too many dang gears.
I detuned the TVR too much.
If I want another livery I’ll just boot up Assetto Corsa Competizione and pick one.
Initial test. All cars are set at 120/240 downforce. Added the old GranTurismo GT4 as a baseline. Might make an old original GT4 Belgium Series where GT4 began.
Afterwards, did a bit of detuning for the R8 and AMG. The Supra and Z transmissions have too many dang gears.
I detuned the TVR too much.Anything far from a pro here, but I'd say:
A) As long as the algorithm has not been leaked, we probably just don't know. In my experience most random grids are pretty fair but often they tend to be rather on the hard side. However, after all the option names RANDOM, not EQUAL, right?
B) I think that rubberbanding is so much part of GT7's AI that there's no way of getting rid of it, unfortunately.
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You’ve managed to get the pp pretty much the same for all of them, did you use the real life spec for each car?A bit odd. No need to widebody the car for the GT4 build. I guess many people haven’t watched much GT4 racing. Well, I’m just using one livery for my grid as there are only one car in the GT4 Australia and usually only one in GT4 European Series.
If I want another livery I’ll just boot up Assetto Corsa Competizione and pick one.
Initial test. All cars are set at 120/240 downforce. Added the old GranTurismo GT4 as a baseline. Might make an old original GT4 Belgium Series where GT4 began.
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Afterwards, did a bit of detuning for the R8 and AMG. The Supra and Z transmissions have too many dang gears.
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- SpacedustDaddy
It was a mix of the real GT4 and Gr.4 cars. I set the A110 at 382BHP/1250kg. It’s real world before BOP weight is 1080kg.
Alpine just released info on the A110 GT4+
I didn’t like that the 650S road car have no option to lighten the car and the transmissions have no option to remove gears. A car with a three or four and even five(for the 240 ZG) forward gears, get an added fifth gear(sixth for the 240ZG). However a car with more than six forward gears doesn’t get the same transmission option. If you get my meaning.
I switched back to using GT4 and Gr.4 cars for my grid. Leaving out the road cars and TVR. I’ll just have the A110, AMG GT S(which worked out better due to not having so much torque to detune) as the lap time was 0.002 slower than the AMG GT R. Plus it’s bang on with the SLS Gr.4
In regards to the Audi, I was using the real R8 GT4 standard weight of 1460kg before BOP. I’m experimenting with using the specs of the Gr.4 Huracan BOP 319BHP/1400kg and its transmission speeds in gear. I’ve got the R8 front diff at 5/5/5 and the rear at 10/30/30 like the Cayman.
Did not expect the GT S to be that quick, but it still has a massive amount of torque over the SLS(58.8kfgm to 41.9kfgm). May have to drop about 5-10BHP.
Edit: Fixed that. Just reduced the ECU to 73% and Restrictor to 87%(was the other way around), brings torque down to 50.0kfgm.
The initial times for the M4 and Z were horrible. The M4 was at BOP specs. I adjusted the power of both for their second runs.
Alpine is at max weight, but I set power between the Cayman and 650S. Slight decrease should make it even with the Cayman.
R8 and Huracan are tight though the R8 has 5 more kfgm of torque to the Huracan’s 30:70 torque distribution.
Bobbled the 650S into Turn 3 entry. So, it should be in that 0.4 range.
Can’t wait to try that Vantage.
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Thanks for the detailed response, I’m also thinking of using a mix of gr4 and road based cars to make a gt4 grid.
Am i right in thinking the r8 gt4 is rwd drive rather than awd?
Am i right in thinking the r8 gt4 is rwd drive rather than awd?
Wait, you're saying the two behave differently? I always believed that the restrictor does the same as the ECU but is meant either for cars without an ECU option, or as additional power limitation option. So, ECU reduces both hp and torque while restrictor does not affect torque (at least not at the same amount as ECU)? --> That would yield great tuning options
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