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Lets hope for another difficulty option for career and custom race <3
He specifically said they're working with PD to bring Sophy to many more cars & tracks and make it a permanent part of the game.

Earlier he talked about the need for different difficulty levels, but they do this with different car specs (as we saw in the demo). With the 1vs1 the only time you go up against Sophy in equal machinery. I guess that's not all that different from the PP system where you can tailor difficulty yourself with the car you choose.

He also said it takes 2 weeks and 20 PS4's to train one car on one track. When they train an agent they send it to PD to race against their test drivers.

Then it went to a Q&A but the stream cut off.

BTW, the Kaz video was basically him talking about camera's, sensors and what have you to record data and replicate it in the gameworld. They showed a 2-3 minute video of scanning tracks, flying over mountains to record 'em, looking at foliage, how light reflects off materials etc. Oh, and scanning and recording cars (most of the footage was an R35 GT-R).
 
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I saw the GT movie last night, it was a bit goofy and over the top, but still fun and had great cinematography in the racing sequences.

There was an interesting bit early in the movie that depicted cars getting scanned and recorded, but it looked like a dramatized set piece built for the movie rather than actual footage of the studio process.

That said, in the scene there was a Huracan STO and a 190E Evo, and there were screens that depicted what looked like actual scans PD had taken. The digital scanned car on the computer screen looked like the ‘02 NSX already in game, but there was a stretch of track that was just untextured raw datapoints and was only visible for a couple of seconds so it was hard to identify. Hungaroring also featured heavily throughout the movie, but that’s unlikely to mean anything given it takes about 2 years to model a track. It’d be interesting if they actually managed to throw in a teaser for a new future track and/or car(s).
 
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Even worse is that it seems like they completely forgot about Gr.2 despite the class having enough vehicles for a full grid, albeit the performance is pretty skewed towards the GT1 cars without BOP. We even got a new car for the class with the DTM Audi but it seems they are overlooking it for whatever reason.
I wouldn't be surprized if the reason why there aren't any Gr.2 events currently is the same reason why there weren't any Super Formula events until the SF23 was added.

PD are probably waiting until they have an updated GT500 roster before adding events
 
I wouldn't be surprized if the reason why there aren't any Gr.2 events currently is the same reason why there weren't any Super Formula events until the SF23 was added.

PD are probably waiting until they have an updated GT500 roster before adding events

But if race cars are typically on a two year cycle, wouldn't they always be behind the curve?

I think the SF23 is a rare exception and it helps that it's a spec chassis that doesn't differ up and down the grid.

With the inclusion of the SF23, we've had a handful of spread out races, with no championship to speak of. I wouldn't hold out any hope for them doing Super GT 'right' like putting together a championship etc.

We've been at this for 25 years at this is the level of innovation we're seeing when it comes to event design? It seems like they forgot everything they've learned and are choosing not to build upon it or come up with new ideas.

It's not to say they can't. The 'chilli' events are some of the best in the game, with a close grid and competent racing (not chase the hare). But there are only three or four of these in the game. They are actively choosing not to include more of these.

We are deserving of a better GT experience than what we have.
 
You know, is there any logic behind why PD can hand out the GT-R GT3 prize car for watching the movie trailer instantly but can't do the same for the ambulance?

The condition is the same for both: click video, get prize. Why does one of them need an extra day (or week) to process?
 
You know, is there any logic behind why PD can hand out the GT-R GT3 prize car for watching the movie trailer instantly but can't do the same for the ambulance?

The condition is the same for both: click video, get prize. Why does one of them need an extra day (or week) to process?
They want to increase spectators number for their gtws showcases.
 
Even worse is that it seems like they completely forgot about Gr.2 despite the class having enough vehicles for a full grid, albeit the performance is pretty skewed towards the GT1 cars without BOP. We even got a new car for the class with the DTM Audi but it seems they are overlooking it for whatever reason.
They could have plenty of actually varied racing series featured in the game if they actually included a proper class system instead of trying to shove every single motorsports class that has ever existed into 5 generic categories with cars that are 35 years apart from each other in age.
 
But if race cars are typically on a two year cycle, wouldn't they always be behind the curve?

I think the SF23 is a rare exception and it helps that it's a spec chassis that doesn't differ up and down the grid.

With the inclusion of the SF23, we've had a handful of spread out races, with no championship to speak of. I wouldn't hold out any hope for them doing Super GT 'right' like putting together a championship etc.

We've been at this for 25 years at this is the level of innovation we're seeing when it comes to event design? It seems like they forgot everything they've learned and are choosing not to build upon it or come up with new ideas.

It's not to say they can't. The 'chilli' events are some of the best in the game, with a close grid and competent racing (not chase the hare). But there are only three or four of these in the game. They are actively choosing not to include more of these.

We are deserving of a better GT experience than what we have.
Yeah it’s very strange that they implemented something like the chili events but then don’t add more, same with the missions. It doesn’t make the impression that they really had a plan after launch..
 
They could have plenty of actually varied racing series featured in the game if they actually included a proper class system instead of trying to shove every single motorsports class that has ever existed into 5 generic categories with cars that are 35 years apart from each other in age.
This might be a minority opinion, but I actually like that this happens, personally. Race cars across eras competing against each other has always been a lot of the appeal of race cars in GT for me; locking it down to "cars only compete against their direct real life contemporaries" to be realistic is to me at least nowhere near as interesting or fun.
 
Yeah it’s very strange that they implemented something like the chili events but then don’t add more, same with the missions. It doesn’t make the impression that they really had a plan after launch..

Also consider all the content they cut from launch but have yet to add.

Like implementing a full license centre but having zero events that require the higher licences...it's baffling
 
Even worse is that it seems like they completely forgot about Gr.2 despite the class having enough vehicles for a full grid, albeit the performance is pretty skewed towards the GT1 cars without BOP. We even got a new car for the class with the DTM Audi but it seems they are overlooking it for whatever reason.
...and it's funny how people already are thankful to get ONE single new GT2 car, as a new car, that's still outdated from 2019... In a game released in 2022, added by an update one year after launch ...

But well, they rather add numerous versions of same old cars and same models by Nissan or Toyota...
 
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Bored over lunch at work, I decided to do a little thought experiment, to see how GT7's classic vehicle roster stacks up nowadays: How much of GT4 can you complete using only cars that are in GT7?

The rules are that you can't enter any race with a garage car that isn't in GT7. Provided cars in licences and driving missions are fine to use regardless, because this would be no fun to route with no licences. All cars are allowed to be sold. Tuning is allowed. Note that I'm not trying to make this competitive: if you can destroy a race with an OP car, that still counts.

You can win every non-one-make event except for the beginner Sports Truck Race and two European events (British Lightweight Series and Schwarzwald Liga B). The GTWC championship and Extreme Hall are also locked off due to the truck race being unwinnable, but would be all completable if accessible. The one-makes are about 50% completable.

To be able to win every race except the one-makes, PD would need to add the 2004 Dodge Ram, any Lotus Elise that was in GT4, and Kaz's old SL 55 AMG (R230). You'd probably also want the Formula GT for the final championship, though it's not mandatory.

There's two options for a starter car. The only Licence/Mission prize car that is usable is the DeLorean, so we can get the IB License and then complete The Pass missions. Or we could buy from the UCD. I'm starting with the DeLorean in this route, so we do the licences and missions and pick up our prize car. Importantly, the DeLorean can beat the easy Capri Rally, meaning thanks to the RSC credits are no issue and we can buy any car we need to from now on.

The beginner hall is completely winnable with vehicles available from the start, except for Sports Truck Race which is completely unwinnable:

  • The Sunday Cup is won by the DeLorean.
  • The FF Challenge is won by the '97 Civic Type R from the Late '90s UCD
  • The FR Challenge is won by the '69 Corvette C3, from the Chevrolet LCD
  • The 4WD Challenge is won by an Evo III/IV/V from the UCD
  • The MR Challenge is won by the '92 NSX Type R from the Early '90s UCD
  • The K-Car Cup is won by the '91 Cappuccino from the Early '90s UCD
  • Spider & Roadster is won by the '89 MX-5 from the Mazda LCD. This will need a lot of tuning. I'm ruling that regional variants of cars are fair game, otheriwse this would only work in NTSC-J.

There's no new prize cars that are usable, and even if you want to quibble that the A112 Abarth is just a model year change, it isn't useful.

Next, we complete the Normal Swiss Alps Rally using our Evo, which gives us the ST205 Celica Rally Car. This can beat every dirt and snow Special Conditions race, including the Hard Yosemite Rally I, which rewards us with the Escudo.

Let's see what we can do in the professional hall now:

  • The Clubman Cup, Tuning Car Grand Prix, and Race of Turbo Sportscars can be Escudo'd
  • The Race of NA Sports is won by the 787B, buyable in the Mazda LCD.
  • Boxer Spirit can be won by a heavily tuned 22B-STi (from the Late '90s UCD). Not sure there's a better option for this, it's difficult to beat the RUFs.
  • World Classic Car Series, in NTSC-U and PAL, is beaten by the 2J (from the Chaparral LCD). The C3 Corvette from earlier can also manage this if you manipulate the opposition to not have the AC Cars 427.
  • World Compact is won by tuning our Cappuccino.
  • GTWC, as well as the Extreme hall, is locked behind not being able to win the Sports Truck race.

While we're thinking about it, we can use the 787B to win all the tarmac Special Conditions races.

So we've beaten all of Licences, Driving Missions, Special Conditions, and all of the Beginner and Professional halls that are possible. The Extreme hall is unavailable. This should give us comfortably more than 25% completion, so let's turn our attention to the Endurance hall:

- Roadster 4 hours: Tune the '89 MX-5 a bit

Every other race in this hall gets 787B'd. You get the R92CP by doing the Fuji 1000km which IMO is slightly better than the Mazda in GT4 so if you want to swap, do that race first.

Let's now look at what we can do in the regional championships. Starting with the Japanese hall:

  • Japan Championship, JGTC and '90s Challenge are R92CP food
  • '80s Festival is 787B
  • Japanese Compacts is our tuned Cappuccino that beat the World Compacts
  • '70s Classics can be achieved using the Kenmeri Skyline ('80s UCD)

That was simple. Now the American hall:

  • Stars and Stripes is tough, there aren't many American road cars that survive exactly the same through to GT7 without model year or trim changes. I think the Shelby Cobra 427 (buyable from dealership) might be the best bet.
  • The 2J wins the other events

And the European hall:

- La Festa Italiano: Only the Stratos and Delta work here, and will need tuning. Both are buyable from dealerships. We need to do this first as we require its prize car for another event.

  • British Lightweight Series: I don't think there's anything eligible and available at present.
  • Schwarzwald B: Also not doable (the SLR in GT7 is a later model)

  • Pan Euro: Tune an XJ220 (buyable in the Jaguar LCD)
  • British GT Series: XJ220
  • DTM: You have to use the 155. Which is the prize car from La Festa, which is why we do that first.
  • Tous France Championnat: Use the V6 Clio or the Renault R5, both buyable from dealerships.
  • Europe Classic Car League: I think you have to use the E-type (prize for British GT). The 300SL is eligible but we can't get it as it's the prize for a SL one-make we don't have a car for. Avoid the 427 as ever!
  • Euro Hot Hatch League: The same two Renaults as Tout France are your only options here.
  • 1000 miles!: Can be done with a few cars, a fresh car we haven't used yet is the Hakosuka Skyline (prize for Japanese '70s). Avoid the 427 again!
  • Schwarzwald A: Your only option is the 2003 Audi TT (buyable in Audi dealership)

So with everything but the one-makes done, we can't do the Sports Truck Race, the GTWC and Extreme hall (because we can't do the truck race, they'd be mostly beatable otherwise), and two European events. For the one-makes, because this post is long enough already, I'll just list the ones we can do:

  • Vette Vette Vette: '69 C3 Stingray
  • Camaro Meeting: Z28 '69 Camaro (buyable from Chevrolet LCD)
  • Shelby Cobra Cup: 427
  • Tourist Trophy: '03 TT we used in Schwarzwald A
  • Legends of the Silver Arrow: CLK-LM (prize from DTM)
  • Clio Trophy: V6 Clio, needs heavy tuning
  • Blackpool Racers: Tuscan (buyable from dealership)
  • Copen Race: Copen Active Top (buyable)
  • Type R Meeting: '97 Civic Type R
  • Civic Race: '97 Civic Type R
  • Club RE: RX-7 Spirit R (buyable)
  • NR-A Roadster Cup: '89 MX-5
  • Evolution Meeting: The Evo we bought for 4WD Challenge back at the start
  • Race of the Red R Emblem: One of the 3 V-spec Skyline GT-Rs. R32 Nismo isn't in GT4, surprisingly.
  • Silvia Sisters: Silvia S14 K's Aero
  • Club "Z": 300ZX TwinTurbo 2seater, buyable (the '71 240ZG is also eligible but is only available as the prize car for this very event)
  • Stars of Pleiades: 22B-STi
  • Suzuki K-Car Cup: '91 Cappuccino
 
This might be a minority opinion, but I actually like that this happens, personally. Race cars across eras competing against each other has always been a lot of the appeal of race cars in GT for me; locking it down to "cars only compete against their direct real life contemporaries" to be realistic is to me at least nowhere near as interesting or fun.
Probably it is a minority opinion, but I feel exactly the same!

If "cars only compete against their direct real life contemporaries" would be the standard,an cross-generation racing would not be possible, I don't know if I would still be playing...(or I would only do custom races, where I can do that...)
 
I have done Le Mans 700 for quite some time, but I think this is the first time I had a race with rain at the end of lap 1 all the way to the last lap. This was the last lap:
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Might not be the opinion of most players because this is an excellent race for grinding, but I really like when it's full rain.

The MC20 is way better when tuned to 700pp, but unfortunately fuel economy with this one is awful. Almost 2 laps using FM6 and thats with a bit of short-shifting. At least it's a beautiful car!
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I've done the High Speed Ring 20 lapper and it rained from lap 2 all the way to lap 18.

Honestly kinda fun since the tires don't shred up as fast.
 
Even worse is that it seems like they completely forgot about Gr.2 despite the class having enough vehicles for a full grid, albeit the performance is pretty skewed towards the GT1 cars without BOP. We even got a new car for the class with the DTM Audi but it seems they are overlooking it for whatever reason.
I think they forgot about individual cars as well. For example, a list of cars that have had real one-make series but do not have dedicated events in-game (not all perfect matches):

Abarth 500 Trofeo Abarth
Alpine A110 Alpine Elf Europa Cup
Audi R8 LMS Audi R8 LMS Cup
Audi TT Cup Audi Sport TT Cup
BMW M3 E46 Spec E46
Ferrari 458 458 Challenge
Ferrari F430 430 Challenge
KTM X-Bow KTM X-Bow Battle
Lamborghini Huracan Lamborghini Super Trofeo
Mazda NR-A MX-5 Cup
Nissan Fairlady Z (Z33) Spec Z
Porsche Cayman GT4 Cayman GT4 Trophy
Radical SR3 Radical Cup
Renault Clio (All) Renault Clio Cup
Renault Megane Trophy Eurocup Mégane Trophy
Renault RS.01 Renault Sport Trophy
Toyota GR86 Toyota GR Cup
Toyota Prius Toyota Prius Cup

We know they are aware of these because they inspire some of the Sport Mode daily combos, yet for some reason PD seems uninterested in giving the same level of attention to the single-player aspect of the game, forcing players to run (usually) mediocre custom races for pennies.

What bothers me even more is that these are the classes of cars/races that need to exist so that there is a smooth transition/progression between car classes. Not every driver immediately jumps from GT4(Gr.4) to GT3 (Gr.3), or from B-Spec to Porsche Cup, for example. They often have to get their feet wet in a one-make or some in-between series to prove that they are actually the best for that specific seat.

Its a missed opportunity to not cover them while they have the content to do so, even if we, the players, can ultimately choose to skip these steps.
 
I'm confused about the Viewer's Campaign. Are we supposed to watch the whole thing on the console, or is it like how the Ferrari VGT one was with a question about the stream?
 
I've done the High Speed Ring 20 lapper and it rained from lap 2 all the way to lap 18.

Honestly kinda fun since the tires don't shred up as fast.
First time I did the race I had full dry conditions, not even a single cloud on the map. I did it again and got rain from lap 4-16. Interesting that weather in this event is actually random, not "scripted" like Spa.

Too bad the credits for 1st place is awful. It doesn't even make sense (like the rest of WTC 800 events). This is a 20-minute race without rain and 25+ with it. 160k credits without the especial CRB conditions for 20 minutes...

You know... sometimes I think if PD had a chance to "normalize" rewards, without that backlash from last year, they would do it. They would definitely bring Sardegna to 200k.
 
I'm confused about the Viewer's Campaign. Are we supposed to watch the whole thing on the console, or is it like how the Ferrari VGT one was with a question about the stream?
Nope.
All you have to do is access the special page once the stream is up - that'll send the flag that you've "watched" the stream. It's only normally exposed on console although it is also possible out of it with enough know how.
 
Ok. As for the GR Corolla, I just have to post a valid time in the trial, or do I have to be invited to an event?
 
Ok. As for the GR Corolla, I just have to post a valid time in the trial, or do I have to be invited to an event?
No, you need to have taken part in any round of the Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup this year. There's been six, the seventh is on August 27th.
 
And it's open invitation, and just have to attend at the appropriate times?

I never did one of these, so I'm clueless...
 
And it's open invitation, and just have to attend at the appropriate times?

I never did one of these, so I'm clueless...
It's just a regular Sport Mode race that takes place at specific times on a specific day. You enter it like any other Sport Mode race (you need PS Plus and to have passed GT Cafe Menu Book 9 - Championship: Tokyo Highway Parade).

The only difference is there's a qualifying session in the lobby, to set the grid, and you'll receive a points score afterwards which determines your championship ranking - just like in Nations Cup and Manufacturers Cup. You'll also be placed among drivers with a similar Driver Rating in what's called "League" brackets, at GT1 League for A/A+ DR, GT2 League for B DR, and GT3 League for C/D/E DR.
 
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