Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread
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I just went back to watch the video... what the heck is he referring to? The only GT7 build we have seen is just GT Sport with Trial Mountain and a couple new cars that have been added. The driving physics are exactly the same as in GT Sport.
Important to note: GT has never ever been a simulator, and never will be. (and thats a good thing).
It's also not surprising he has never featured Gran Turismo on his channel, because it really does seem like he is talking about a game he has never played.
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You're still assuming that the typical GTS player is capable of getting to the top of the leadership. My point was while that some performance differences do exist, the vast majority of players aren't skilled or consistent enough for that to matter. They'll never actually realize these performance differences during a race which means the differences are irrelevant. In my races for example I've never experienced any consistent trends, in any race at any track. The only way to really prove that any particular car is faster is to check the leaderboards, but again that assumes that typical GTS players can actually drive the cars to their limit which they can't.
Again, because your skill level likely isn't high enough for any sandbagging to actually matter. Mine surely isn't. While the leaderboard drivers can push that F1 to its limit repeatedly, I can't, and any minor mistakes I make completely negates any advantage. Ultimately, the vast majority of players will always make mistakes in any car they drive which completely negates any advantage. That means that choosing the "fastest" car accomplishes nothing except illustrating that the person choosing it thinks they're more capable than they are.
Perhaps you're driving at a much higher level than I am. Maybe you're on the leaderboards. If you are then maybe this is an issue but for the millions of others players who aren't, it doesn't matter. I've seen no BOP bias, I've seen no lack of grid diversity, no car domination, no nothing like that, and I'm driving in B/S or B/A lobbies without a steering wheel, aka near the top of the curve where the majority of players are hanging out. I think that like most players who think they see what you're seeing you're actually just inventing a problem which is only experienced by the top 1% of players. That's not a very good sample size to glean problems from.
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I'm not sure the gaps are so small, maybe for Gr.3, but as a driver forever stuck in D I've seen only FF cars being competitive in Gr.4, and in supposedly balanced two-car-provided races I've tried both for hours and found one multiple seconds quicker than the other; the meta must matter to some extent. More important though is that being in Australia, nearly every race I enter is against a mix of other D/S and D/A players, some very aggressive rammers and a sprinkling of A/S players who qualify first by 8 seconds and who I'll never catch.
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PD used what looks like the same method of creating 3D scenes (although, with much lower resolution) during the PS3 era. For example, The canyon scene in that video looks super similar to this scene from the Gran Turismo 5 menu's.
As good as it looks, I personally don't think it will see any use in GT7 for anything other than scenes taking place outdoors. Polyphony have been creating some really nice looking indoor showrooms in GT Sport that don't need the help of photographs to make it look life like.
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What you dont get from the video is the effect of VR on tricking the brain. This has to be the coolest implementation I've seen so far.
When conditions are lined up with how good the car shaders are, and the exposure changing the lighting the right amount for a split second, it feels very real.
More so than a regular 3D environment in VR as realistic 3D/lighting is harder to achieve.
And the fakery in these VR scapes is probably faster and easier to make as well so I hope these were some sort of test they want to expand upon.
Since they are shooting more scapes for GT7, it would be a shame if they didnt offer more of these experiences of different places around the world for PSVR players.
These were VR specific senes, regular scapes in game are a 2D bg with a 3D ground plane and parallaxing layers that they camera match so the car can drive between.
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This makes me think again, what kinds of high-end technology PD develops over time, so many man-hours put into R&D and we only get to see crazy stuff like this thanks to a modding community. And this is just top of the iceberg. I mean, I understand not everything is meant for public, but PD must have such crazy prototypes of various things at the studios. I bet they’ve been experimenting with things that would spin our heads around.
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Yep, reminds me of the rumour of the tech demo for GT7 (from an industry insider) and that was back in 2013.
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I would say keep practicing and you'll eventually get out of that slump.
The best all-rounders in Gr. 4 are:
- Mustang GT
- Lexus RCF
- Porsche Cayman
- Renault Megane Cup
- Alfa Romeo 4C
- Toyota 86
- Subaru Impreza
- Mitsubishi Evo X*
The best for endurance in Gr. 4:
- Lexus RCF
- Mustang GT
- Toyota 86
Avoid FF, MR, and AWD cars for endurance races. They absolutely destroy tires. You need something with grunt that's balanced, like the RCF and GT, or something nimble and planted that can utilize an opponent's slip stream without ruining its own handling, like the 86.
Try to have fun with it, don't focus on your rank and try to drive clean. It's easier to drive defensively and lose a couple of positions than to drive aggressively without spatial awareness and end up in an accident.
Some people are just trolls and dont take it seriously. You cant really do much about that, just keep your head up and move on to the next race. I know it's a deflating feeling to have your race ruined but you gotta keep moving forward.
Best of luck 👍
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That is my overall impression as well. He tends to wax on about "pie in the sky" ideas that usually do not make it into the final product fully flowered out in the way that he described them.
Kaz would be a good spokesperson for how nuclear fusion as a widely used general power source is just around the corner
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I don't blame him for being ambitious. Game development is very dynamic and tons of stuff gets changed and/or scrapped. Just look at the Pokemon series for example - by way of datamines, there have been a lot of implications that GameFreak planned a "Pokemon Grey" and a "Pokemon Z" at some point.That is my overall impression as well. He tends to wax on about "pie in the sky" ideas that usually do not make it into the final product fully flowered out in the way that he described them.
Kaz would be a good spokesperson for how nuclear fusion as a widely used general power source is just around the corner
Look, I know enough about game development to say that I know next to nothing at all, and we'll likely never know why certain things get changed/scrapped due to the secretive nature of game development. It could very well be that Kaz needs to keep quiet unless what he wants to discuss is 100% confirmed/complete, but as I said, I think he's got some room to dream a bit, especially since GT has typically been technically impressive in at least some areas. Then there's all the other stuff PD does, like that thing that GTPlanet wrote an article on in the last year or two that looked like it'd be part of a future track editor - I recall it being almost like an algorithm that auto-populates an area with some sort of city scape.
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IIRC the beta test was so they could test the online portion, "netcode" as some would say.
As they seem to have that pretty well sorted in Sport a beta test wouldn't really be necessary ?
Possible they'd do it for PR reasons maybe?
As they seem to have that pretty well sorted in Sport a beta test wouldn't really be necessary ?
Possible they'd do it for PR reasons maybe?
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